I don't have the answer but it sure as hell isn't about income or money.
It's beans innit?
Supermarket brand - Working class
Heinz - Middle Class
No beans - Upper Class.
Even if someone from the working class ups their game and finds themself in the same financial ballpark as upperclass, they'll still buy their 'root' beans.
You look in Alan Sugar's cupboards, filled to the brim with Aldi tinned veg, you mark my words.
If you have to sell your labour then you are working class, if you
earn income from the the profit made from employing others or your investments or property then you are middle class.
We buy our art from IKEA, our next door neighbour lends hers to the Ashmolean. Different class.
hia = working class
hello = middle class
helair = upper class
HAWHAWHAWHAW = royalty
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still f***ing peasants as far as I can see
Quite an insightful chap was Mr Lennon! 😉
If you have to sell your labour then you are working class, if you
earn income from the the profit made from employing others or your investments or property then you are middle class.
Spot on.
Simple -
Working Class -if you have got a job and need the money, you're working class no matter how well you are paid.
Middle Class -if you have got a job but can walk away from it, you're middle class.
Upper Class - if you're a **** whose head would look better separated from your body by Madame Guillotine
Edit: wow! good filtering there
[i]Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still f***ing peasants as far as I can see[/i]Quite an insightful chap was Mr Lennon!
Not a Lennon fan, but was listening to this on a compilation a few weeks ago, and it struck a chord... worth quoting in full:
As soon as your born they make you feel small,
By giving you no time instead of it all,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.They hurt you at home and they hit you at school,
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool,
Till you're so ****ing crazy you can't follow their rules,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years,
Then they expect you to pick a career,
When you can't really function you're so full of fear,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still ****ing peasents as far as I can see,
A working class hero is something to be,
A working class hero is something to be.There's room at the top they are telling you still,
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill,
A working class hero is something to be.
A working class hero is something to be.If you want to be a hero well just follow me,
If you want to be a hero well just follow me.
khani - Memberhia = working class
hello = middle class
helair = upper class
HAWHAWHAWHAW = royalty
😀
I don't really understand the hatred towards the upper classes. They have inherited money but so what, its not their fault is it?
I've met some posh officers who were really nice people and some idiots. Pretty much the same as every other group really.
[i]Ok, what about if I don't have a job, shop at Aldi's, can't afford a holiday, and am dependent on benefits to support my family. What class am I in then? [/i]
Underclass mate.
Also the real split for me between working and middle class is due to attitude and education, with a small 'e'. Just 'cos you have a degree it doesn't make you middle class.
And as far as income goes, many people in blue collar jobs earn far more than those in white collar roles - so you can't really split it this way.
[i]I've met some posh officers who were really nice people and some idiots. Pretty much the same as every other group really. [/i]
Leslie Phillips for example?
[i]Phillips came from a background of poverty... sent to the Italia Conti Academy to receive elocution lessons in order to lose his natural cockney accent... due to his acquired upper crust accent, Phillips was selected for officer training at Catterick and duly commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the Royal Artillery in 1943.[/i]
How you have your coffee:
instant = working class
ground = middle class
ring a bell and a little man brings it to you = upper class
I thought that the working class worked in trades and the middle classes worked in the professions. So working class folks served apprenticeships or had other vocational training, while the middle classes were educated at universities.
Some professions, like engineering, used to be fairly exclusive, with only a few professionals in charge of a load of workers (mechanics, technicians, etc). These days there's way more people who are university educated and fields like engineering often expect degree level qualifications, so the middle class has expanded downwards to encompass people who'd previously have been working class. Another example might be nursing, which has become more academic than it once was and IIRC recently it was announced that all new nurses would have to have degrees.
Depends IMO in how you refer to your earnings
working class = a wage
middle class = a salary
upper class = an income
If you can give up work and retain ownership of your key assets (ie house) then you are middle class.
Woohoo, I'll be middle-class in a couple of years when the mortgage is paid off......
thought that the working class worked in trades and the middle classes worked in the professions. So working class folks served apprenticeships or had other vocational training, while the middle classes were educated at universities.
I'd see this as a consequence of class background, not an indicator. In the past the professions were the (almost) exclusive preserve of the middle classes because of the limited access to higher education required for the entry qualifications.
Today, a far greater percentage of young people get degree level academic qualification and can enter the professions - but it doesn't make them middle class.
In the same way, farmers, or other small local business owners are very much middle class - irrespective of any academic qualifications (often none). Many of the small businessmen I know have such "down to earth" attitudes (ie would make the BNP blush) that they would never be able to work as an employee for very long in most firms without getting fired....
I know my place.
hia = working classhello = middle class
helair = upper class
HAWHAWHAWHAW = royalty
Is both amusing and for me the most accurate.
It's all cultural.