It may well be a game of thrones reference but you aren’t supposed to watch GOT and think, I wish the world was more like that.
It's an odd one too, that story line doesn't end well for the patriarchy.
Unfitgeezer coming across as the STW Jeremy Clarkson. 🫣
The problem with having a platform is there are plenty of genuinely horrible people who will write things that are purposefully open to interpretation, then claim its been misinterpreted.
I do wonder if it was related to his lunch with Camila and the palace PR team the day before. Perhaps he went a bit far with the message he was asked to portray
I've said it before - I don't understand why people pay money every day to have someone else's opinions and thought processes subconsciously embedded into them.
I’ve said it before – I don’t understand why people pay money every day to have someone else’s opinions and thought processes subconsciously embedded into them.
Aren't you a paid member of this forum? FWIW, the BBC site I linked is free. And no I didn't have to froth about it, but to not call it out makes his vocabulary acceptable by proxy, and it isn't.
All I’m going to say is that I’m with Kathy Burke’s assessment on this one…
Some people on this thread need to take a step back from the keyboard.
Nastiness and point scoring is ruining this forum.
Lots of sniping, back biting, and general unkindness
Well at least we have a swear filter so we're not awful like Mumsnet.
I'd managed to avoid having to hear what he wrote until 5Live news decided to give the nation the juicy details.
Really awful thing to write about any woman, or indeed man.
Maybe we need the definition of "hate crime" extending,because I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
And the fact that a media organisation felt it was appropriate to publish is even more unpleasant, if not surprising, sadly.
Clarkson has played this character for so long i doubt he knows the difference anymore, same with his Top Gear partners, comments like this are misogynistic, but not really racism, but he has a lot of previous for it, from Asians to Argentines, he's had a go during his usual flag waving nationalism persona for Top Gear.
For me the likes of Clarkson are just a symptom, not the cause, the cause is we live in a country that this stuff sells well in, so we have idiots who will model themselves on Clarkson and Morgan to advance their careers.
As for Meghan and Harry, i tend to be their side on most things, don't get me wrong, she's a hollywood actress and he's had many issues over the years and they're out to make as much as they possibly can, but the last few years there's been a real unrelenting attack on them, with no defence from the Royals, imagine if the attacks they've had over the last year were aimed at William and Kate, they just get puff pieces in the press, i can't even think of a negative story in years for them.
Almost as if he wants to promote something with his fan base and get in the headlines
exactly what I immediately thought.
I really can’t be arsed with either Clarkson or the other two.
From what I understand the other two stepped away from the royals to get away from the limelight, now they seem to want all the limelight, & money that goes with it.
Comparing Markle to Rose West was just an idiot talking idiocy.
I really wish all three would get in the sea. Maybe together.
they seem to want all the limelight, & money that goes with it
I read that as “not quietly taking whatever the press fire at them, and finding ways to raise the money to pay for the security their family requires because of how the most unstable people respond to that press coverage.”
not quietly taking whatever the press fire at them, and finding ways to raise the money to pay for the security their family requires because of how the most unstable people respond to that press coverage.”
If they’d sodded off away from the limelight & done something else the press wouldn’t have been as interested. You know, like acting or something.
Oh wait….
the press wouldn’t have been as interested
They won’t leave them alone. Why do you think they will drop it? Why do you think a return to acting would result in the UK press moving on?
If they’d sodded off away from the limelight & done something else the press wouldn’t have been as interested. You know, like acting or something
Personally I think they are trying to have their cake and eat it, but the fact is they - no one - should have to put up with press attacks they got, but expecting the press to leave them alone is naive.
I'm not convinced by the "they need the money" line though. The wills of deceased Royals are kept private, I'm guessing he's not short of a bob or two. They could quietly earn enough without selling their souls to Netflix, who would happily destroy them next week if the sales figures justified it.
I'm sick of the incessant snowflake updates.
At least he's not making jokes about raping and killing Holly Willoughby.
Whatever the H&M have done has no bearing on what Clarkson said, they are separate things.
Clarkson words should be referred to the police, especially considering the current campaign running on media around sexual harassment.
Can’t stand any of them however, recent events are clearly pointing to H&M story not be fictional.
Does anyone know what it is about her that triggers such frothing apoplexy amongst the gammons?
I guess it’s the obvious, with her being both female and the ‘wrong’ colour, but I find the ludicrously disproportionate level of vitriol directed at her absolutely mystifying
Does anyone know what it is about her that triggers such frothing apoplexy amongst the gammons?
She infiltrated a powerful institution which is dead-set on protecting its hypocrisy to portray its ultimate level of Britishness, whilst at the same time starting to escalate as a modern populist amongst the proles.
A popular black American married to a outlier of British royal protocol both being popular in the public eye was too much to bear. Harry might accidentally have made William an unpopular heir therefore deminishing the monarchy faster than it is already...
...is my opinion.
Does anyone know what it is about her that triggers such frothing apoplexy amongst the gammons?
She married a ginger squaddie?
Just Clarkson being Clarkson, I'm failing to get outraged, it's a tasteless GOT reference and I'm failing to see any racism, he just doesn't like her, personally she doesn't evoke any strong positive or negative feeling in me, neither does Clarkson's nonsense, I couldn't give a flying fig about any aspect of this, I just don't get sucked into fake outrage,virtue signalling, woke one-upmanship. People say things you don't like sometimes boo hoo, who cares, there's far larger issues to address in this world.
Does anyone know what it is about her that triggers such frothing apoplexy amongst the gammons?
No idea, I do think it is related to the countries cap doffing obsession with the royal family. Anything that threatens it has to be destroyed in case the we all realise how utterly ridiculous it is as an institution.
As far Clarkeson, I detested him for years, then I started to watch his Amazon Prime show and read some of his pretty thoughtful articles on farming and food production, I was starting to grudgingly respect him, thankfully he has revealed again what a turd he is so I can go back to my original correct view.
it’s a tasteless GOT reference and I’m failing to see any racism
don’t think the Wests were in GoT but maybe I missed that part
Just Clarkson being Clarkson, I’m failing to get outraged, it’s a tasteless GOT reference and I’m failing to see any racism, he just doesn’t like her, personally she doesn’t evoke any strong positive or negative feeling in me, neither does Clarkson’s nonsense, I couldn’t give a flying fig about any aspect of this, I just don’t get sucked into fake outrage,virtue signalling, woke one-upmanship. People say things you don’t like sometimes boo hoo, who cares, there’s far larger issues to address in this world.
This is one of the most ignorant opinions I've seen posted on STW for some time.
Clarkson et al love this sort of reaction though, increases traffic to their employers websites, gives them relevance in their minds I think.
"Clarkson being Clarkson" is a white, elderly rich male knowingly inciting carefully crafted hatred on a black woman that the establishment has taken against, then issuing a non-apology that's got all the headlines without the slightest attempt to actually apologise for being a misogynist pig.
The Sun have removed the column page now.
I just don’t get sucked into fake outrage,virtue signalling,
Your entire post was virtue signalling! You may have different ideas of 'virtue', but you certainly bang on about it just as smugly and self righteously as the people you decry.
, who cares, there’s far larger issues to address in this world.
like ? misogeny, racism, being ruled over by either a monarchy or the media? They are quite high up my list of things to be upset about in the world.
Christ. Have a sit down will you.
My apologies, remind me to be more tolerant of hate speech because it's "bantz".
Banter, bantz - a euphemism for racism, sexism, misogyny and general arsehole, ignorant, insulting comments.
Typically used by those who don't have the ability to properly articulate their views or communicate in any other way.
Oops was listening to a royal gammon Havering on about H&M, very difficult to see whether he was pro or con them. Stupidly said it's not important it's not as though James Hewitt's child would get to the throne anyway.
Like dropping a grenade in a latrine. I think the faint glow on the horizon is his rage.
Still, one less Christmas card not to send.
who cares, there’s far larger issues to address in this world.
Yep, we should only care about the largest issues, maybe the top ten largest issues. Can you post a list so we know what they are please.
Poorly judged attempt at satirical humour. if Charlie Brooker has said it there would be no issue.
not defending him, ive never liked him. but that fact its caused such a stir is detriment to our society.
i like it when snowflakes have their feathers ruffled.
It was a disgusting thing to say said by a disgusting man and published by a disgusting newspaper. Should be called out then ignored but not forgotten.
Poorly judged attempt at satirical humour.
he didn't want to expose her failings he just wanted her exposed and shamed, satire my arse!
If calling out dog whistle racism and misogyny labels me a snowflake then paint me white and count my six sides.
but that fact its caused such a stir is detriment to our society
I'm not sure your society is my society.