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It’s taken me 43 years to work out I can’t out-exercise a bad diet. I lost 2.5 stone in chub club 2 years ago cutting out carbs.
Using weight watchers, which if anything is helping me track what I put in and be a bit more mindful of my inhuman capacity for snacking.
I'm not going to treat it as a religion, but as a guideline to help me come up with healthier options.
more exercise and be more consistent with food for me. i work in london 3-4 times a week down bermondsey street and there are so many good places to eat so the mission is to take lunch and not go out and get some really tasty but generally big and fatty treat.
Planning on burning some of the calories I'm consuming! Christmas hasn't been kind to my waistline but generally my diet isn't too bad, with a semi active job.
Biggest problem last year for me was not riding my bike for 11months!
Big question: how are you gonna lose the chub?
I'm attempting a RED January, the dog is a good motivator. Starting with just short distances.
That and focusing on a healthy breakfast and lunch. Dinner will be what it is... and cutting out the unhealthy snacks. So much easier to say than actually do!
im in now!!
Big question: how are you gonna lose the chub?
A multi-faceted approach:
- 5:2
- combined with general better eating Mon-Fri (lots of lean protein and veggies)
- the weekend I will be less stringent, but still careful, but I accept there will be some 'bad' stuff in there
- I will not surround myself with negativity and negative people, because they drag me down and when i am down i comfort eat, and when i comfort eat i gain weight which gets me down and (repeat to 14st 10)
- i will do more exercise but I will not reward it with massive pie intake because I know you cannot outrun a bad diet
Using WW I am gaining so called 'fit points' based on commutes and gym sessions I have been awarded 64 of the targeted 21 points so far, still need to ride home later which will be another 11.
Based on this, a small amount are allowed for use across the week. However, in order to loose I want to keep to within sensible limits, however, I also don't want to fall into really low levels of energy as I cycle for an hour plus a day and do a weights session twice a week plus a run.
Does anyone have any experience of actually losing weight while also remaining fuelled for day to day life. For reference I weigh a lot so I''m not concerned that I'm about to waste away.
yes, I lost 3st while also training for a 12 hour solo at Gorrick / Torq in your sleep.
Perfectly do-able.
Using WW I am gaining so called ‘fit points’ based on commutes and gym sessions I have been awarded 64 of the targeted 21 points so far, still need to ride home later which will be another 11.
Based on this, a small amount are allowed for use across the week. However, in order to loose I want to keep to within sensible limits, however, I also don’t want to fall into really low levels of energy as I cycle for an hour plus a day and do a weights session twice a week plus a run.
Does anyone have any experience of actually losing weight while also remaining fuelled for day to day life. For reference I weigh a lot so I”m not concerned that I’m about to waste away.
My OH used WW for a bit last year, in the new (there's always a new system with WW) system IIRC there's a target for exercise, but the points don't earn you more food like they used to. To me it looked like they were prescribing a very specific healthy lifestyle (eat this much, do this much) which is great if you're an inactive person who eats too much, it tells you what "normal" is supposed to look like. But wouldn't necessarily be compatible with some who did a lot more exercise.
Having said that, there's nothing to stop you working within the system a bit, eggs are zero points, so lots of those gets you your protein (and dietary cholesterol is needed by the body to synthesise testosterone so there's a boost there too). Lots of veg (zero points). Eat plenty of rice which has the best carbs:points ratio without the gluten of pasta. You could get a lot of good clean 'fuel' without going over the prescribed number of points.
Or just do what iDave used to prescribe, carbs don't count during exercise, just tweak that to carbs don't count during exercise that's above the WW weekly target.
IME when I diet I don't get faster I just get lighter. But then when I stop dieting my speed goes up rapidly. I lost about 8kg last spring and was still struggling in the "steady" roadie club group (15-16mph). A few months later I could hold a normal conversation pulling the group along from the front!
I'm not going to lose weight this week! In the last 7 days.
7x Premier Inn Full English (with scrambled egg though, and no toast, no mushrooms, no bubble and squeek, no hash browns, sometimes beans, and 4x tomatoes).
Way too many latte's.
Healthy lunches (usually noodles and fruit for snacks).
Restaurant meal every night (but only red wine one night, water the rest).
Be interesting to see if eating shit, but healthy snacking and being on my feet all day is good or bad!
7x Premier Inn Full English (with scrambled egg though, and no toast, no mushrooms, no bubble and squeek, no hash browns, sometimes beans, and 4x tomatoes).
You do know they'll make poached eggs for you?
I'm also doing RED January. Mainly a run or Zwift and also footy once a week. Going well so far but it doesn't half increase your appetite. Have managed to demolish most of the chocolate and biscuits left over from Christmas now. Loosely doing the 16/8 intermittent fasting thing (eating normally between 11am and 7pm) which suits my work and family life. Seems to be working albeit slowly.
(with scrambled egg though)
That'll be the eggs with butter yeah?
Tell you tomorrow morning, but not normally that I notice...
Thanks TINAS.
I've found a setting that allows me to up the number of fit points, I think I have to reach this base before I have extras to use for the week. As well as weight I'm also tracking chest, waist and thigh measurements ideally I don't want to drop too much muscle mass as part of this. I love eggs, but this morning I had to switch to toast and peanut butter and the other with Jam as I'm a bit fed up with eggs for breakfast, I need to liven then up with some salsa or something.
Hows everyone feeling about tomorrow. I've been pretty well behaved but earlier at lunch i needed a slash and there was a mcdonalds... Realised i also forgot my lunch... And i used my student card fir a free burger ..
The pie diet has been going great for me, never feel hungry, nah I've been super well behaved with regards to diet, not very active but I'm expecting a decent loss, it feels good to be eating decent food and no acid indigestion to boot. I'm cooking a curry tomorrow night for some family so I'll be sure to weigh myself first.
I've adopted a moderate approach to change, lost count of the "new year new me" sweeping change fads that have lasted a fortnight. So I've exercised moderately, cut out school night beers and am eating healthier without going overboard and trying to survive on lettuce and water. It all feels very pleasant and sustainable, and a good launch pad to further change - looking hopeful for a modest loss tomorrow but that works for me. 🙂
4.2 lb lost this week, down to 13st 7.6lb. A good start but it's only that.
How's RED January going for you? I'm doing very short distances and found yesterday was the first day that I could walk up a stairs not in pain! I'm hoping my legs will get use to it!
Declared first thing this morning, looks like there's a few more results coming in, well done all - little steps in the right direction!
done.
suspicious about the scales accuracy...
4KG? Did you send an aircraft carrier out to sea?
i haven't even been yet!
i can't remember conditions of my first weigh in i think it may have been in the evening after dinner.
I apparently lost 8 pounds last week. I have been weighing in every day and its been dropping pretty much a pound a day so scales are consistent.
I have been intermittent fasting so only eating between 13:00 and 19:00. This means basically 2 meals a day in which I am eating minimal carbs and lots of protein. I have also dropped my multiple lattes and gone to drinking black coffee and am staying off the booze.
Exercise wise its cycling to work (only 3 miles each way), Daily 15 minute HIIT (Joe wicks fat burning workout of you tube) workout before work and weights after.
I am assuming that as I was in poor shape at the end of last year (long hours lead to poor diet and little exercise) and Xmas and NY were so excessive with booze and food that this is a fast start and things will slow to a regular pace over the next week or so.
Rob.
Can you see who does edits etc on the sheet?
86.7kg so only a 0.3kg weight loss. I have however had two seven(ish) mile runs, a couple of gentle bike rides with the wee man on the Weeride and pulling a chariot (the extra weight counts I tell ya) and a couple of workouts on my contraption in the garage.
Food wise, plenty of fruit and veg, good meals but still shovelling the junk away. Not as bad as some previous weeks but still not good, either. Still, I've made a start, just have to keep with it.
Jamie i see you've lost 1300lbs this week... kudos!
4lb - no illusions that that won't continue at that rate but it's a good start; first target done (under 14.5st), next one in sight (>2lbs and i'll be back under 200lbs total)
Just better eating generally and 2 days of 5:2, albeit at more like 800-900cal days rather than the 600 prescribed.
Those on the ultra low carb stuff, is that just processed carbs (bread, pasta, etc.) and what do you make of the today reports on lack of fibre on these diets, are you getting lots of veg to ensure your fibre is still high enough?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46827426
can someone reccomend some decent scales? I don't think they are wrong as i seem to be getting a consistant reading but they're finnicky to turn on. tempted by a retro analogue dial for speed
my first week results can be considered somewhat skewed by having spent most of the week in bed (on the sick list not recreationally) without eating; seemingly effective in the short-term, but probably not a good long-term model for anyone to seek to emulate.
On the plus side, there must be another bumper week ahead of me when I stop being mostly phlegm and finally cough it all up
well done to all who made a more conventional start to proceedings........
analogue dial? Speed?
How will you manage the parallax issue? Will you give your weight +/- 10% ?
Speed as in i stand on it and it guves me a reading rather than stand on it and wait for it to switch on then step off and back on.
As for parallax... Always look from the right would do me nicely 😂
3kg off. although i suspect thats the weight of my clothes!
How’s RED January going for you? I’m doing very short distances and found yesterday was the first day that I could walk up a stairs not in pain! I’m hoping my legs will get use to it!
Pretty good although I've felt more tired and hungry than usual this week. I started on 30th December so I'm 12 days in now. An easy hour on zwift tonight, Parkrun tomorrow morning and either a trail run or a 40-50 mile road ride on Sunday. I'm not threatening many PR's on Strava but considering I'm not having rest days as such and it's a lot of base stuff, I'm happy enough.
Not weighed myself yet but only expect a modest loss. Trying to get body-fat %age down is more important for me.
Couple of lbs off this week. Happy with that as my weekly target is only 1 lb, although would expect the Xmas weight gain to come off fairly easily before things slow down again. Pretty happy with the weight I'm at (even though my ultimate goal is about a stone less), so taking things steady this year, not punishing myself too much with stupid calorie deficits. Also keeping an eye on my training and focussing on purely training for improved performance, rather than squeezing in extra workouts to burn calories and ending up overtraining.
Last year I weighed myself every day and religiously put everything into MyFitnessPal. It worked and I lost a big chunk of weight last year, but it was mentally tough and not sustainable. Weighing every day made me realise that everything was trending in the right direction but that my weight fluctuates a lot, meaning that if I'd only looked weekly then I could be seeing false increases/decreases. Using MFP made me very aware of the nutritional content and calories in everything that I eat. I don't feel like I need to do that any more as I know what I need to do to lose weight, I know how I need to fuel my workouts/recovery, and weighing weekly is enough to ensure I'm roughly on track (I'm not in a desperate rush to lose the last lbs as I'm a healthy weight and don't want to get too obsessive about things).
It will be interesting to see if I can maintain my weight and ideally slowly lose a bit more using this more relaxed approach - I've been very much all or nothing in the past, which has seen massive periods of weight gain as well as loss. Right now though, I'm less than half the weight I was at peak fat and I feel like I've got a better handle on diet and exercise and balancing that with enjoyment of life than ever before.
Well bollards, that isn't good.
Gone up not down, whoops!
Gone up not down, whoops!
Are you taking measurements as well, chest, waist etc, perhaps you are stronger/more made of muscle than your last weigh in? 🙂
Bare in mind the week I weighed in initially I'd done no cycling, I've been back to my 16 mile round trip every day this week, it makes a massive difference.
My belly measurement is the only one relevant at the moment😀
Defo bigger!
not a great start but not too bad, .4 of a kilo off but three days away at a business school with a strong buffet certainly didn't help.
-2.2 lb / -6.4 in total
I stopped RED on Monday due to sore tendons. I think it was right thing to do as last night's run felt a lot better.
0.2kg up. thank god for last week covering me in terms of averages.
Not overly concerned been feeling lowsy all week and away/eating in trainstations and not ables to burn anything off.
11 lbs loss in 2 week. happy.
1lb off.
Not sure how.
But I'll take it!
1.7kg or nearly 4lbs off so far. More than halfway through RED and dry January. More importantly, one notch on the belt!