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He was born in 1947, so there weren’t the cheap, poorly made and finished guitar-shaped objects sold through Amazon, eBay and other low-cost outlets like there are today.
There absolutely was. Jack White has made a career out of them. The US "catalogue" guitars like Kay, Airline etc. Not made in the far east but in the US, and they were cheap and crap.
The Cobain signature model is actually a “Jagstang”. His own design and a hybrid of both guitars.
Signature models are not the same thing at all.
Signature models are not the same thing at all.
I know, but I assumed Razaroo thought Kurt's Mustang use was so significant that Fender made a signature version when in fact it wasn't
I missed the reply before your boarding Bob.
I thought you were outpedanting me.
This place is quite local.... What do you fellas think of this ?
https://musicmanreading.co.uk/product/epiphone-les-paul-100/
I need to chat with the boy but there's also this
https://musicmanreading.co.uk/product/fender-squier-showmaster-2/
Both may be worth taking a trip into Reading for a look-see... Not made easy by the fellas opening hours though lol.
Now you've spoken to him and the element of surprise is gone, I'd give him a proper morning and a choice rather than edge him to stuff because it's available in a second hand guitar shop.
Especially as it's not really that much cheaper than a decent entry level guitar that he chose with a shop set up behind it.
Alright alright, Sonic youth and the Jazz master then.
Eric clapton playing a.....Gibson acoustic? the world has gone mad I tell thee!
He generaly plays strats and martin acoustics, live, almost exclusivley. Not that there's anything wrong with that, they are both iconic guitars for good reason but I suspect there's hefty sponsorship deals behind that which helps!
I know, but I assumed Razaroo thought Kurt’s Mustang use was so significant that Fender made a signature version when in fact it wasn’t<br /><br />
Nope, just pointing out that Fender’s Cobain model is a Jag, so one could simply figure that that model is the one most associated with him.
For £99 that Fender Squire Showman is good value. Of all the guitars suggested so far that's the one I'd have as a budget first guitar. It's a Superstrat which have gone out of fashion hence the price, but they remain pleasant to play and versatile guitars. Even if it's badly set up all that's needed is an allen key for the saddles (ask the shop for a free one, they'll have drawer full) and philips screw driver. Plug it into an an amp and check all the pickups/knobs work and sound OK before handing over your cash.
I dunno exactly what's involved in creating signature editions, but are they not slightly modified versions of the standard line, but pretty simmilar, like these Jon Mayer and Eric Clapton 000 signatures, with input from the artist can specify little things like Engleman spruce or Sitka spruce tops, different neck profiles etc?
Not nessesarily what the artist uses as a daily driver.
Fender have a data base with 3D models of their most famous necks so they can CNC you an exact copy of Clapton's Strat neck if you pay enough to the custom shop. The Fender signature models use necks that are very close, the soft V on the Clapton signatures is really uncomfortable for my hands and the way I play because it's too big. On the other hand a cheap Epiphone Peter Frampton signature acoustic is seriously skinny and a I love it - even if the guitar isn't very loud. The Squier signatures I've tried have all had standard Squier necks which is great as far as I'm concerned, they suit my hands perfectly - and most people get along fine with them - note that OP, the standard Squier necks are very much one size fits all..
Take him to a guitar shop, let him choose.
Priceless.
As Harry said, I recently sold him a Squier Bullet Mustang.
His delightful daughter had set her mind on one and nothing else would do.
I know how she feels.
I've tried replacing it with a pink, maple necked model over the last month, 'cos I'm vain.
I've spent £150 in fuel trying to find a comparable instrument.
Nope.
I'm sat here now with a LAG acoustic which cost £170 secondhand. It suits me more than a Martin at 10 times the price.
I only buy guitars when a choir of angels starts harmonising when I pick it up. That's how I ended up with an Ibanez RG550, despite hating that style of guitar.
Yeah, neck profiles make a big difference to the feel of the guitar... hence why it's always good to actually get your hands on something before buying.
Some profiles are a lot more one-size fits all, than others, and that's not a bad thing... but there are a lot of options available, these are just from one manufacturer:
https://www.maurysmusic.com/maury_s_blog/view/187208/martin_neck_shapes
Yeah, neck profiles make a big difference to the feel of the guitar… hence why it’s always good to actually get your hands on something before buying.
It's SO important.
I always fancied a Gibson type instrument and bought a Vintage brand (pre Trev Wilkinson) VS6 SG type for £90 at a guitar show. It looked like it had been used to beat off zombies.
Beaten up to hell.
I sold it. Big, big mistake.
I've never found a better SG.
Yeah, my late old man sold his origeonal spec Gibson Marauder to a working band guitarist after offering it to me for free...
I turned it down as despite sounding amazing, I just couldn't get on with it, and it would have ended up just being an ornament.
You can always swap out pickups etc. on an electric, but you can't realistically change the weight, neck shape and general feel of the thing.
The guy who bought it said something simmilar..."it sounds phenomenal, but it's a difficult guitar to play!"
Thanks to the massively kind @finishthat and the power of stw forum again, we have this arriving/collected tomorrow
Yamaha Pacifica 112 and a Roland Cube 15x
This place really is a gem at times and the people on it.
That is a lovely guitar and soooooo far away from a Stagg you have no idea! (but he will). Roland do electronics very well so the amp will work for ever.
"Kurt Cobain making the largely rejected Fender Jaguar cool again being probably the most obvious example"
I bought a Les Paul Jr because I saw Billy Joe Armstrong ripping on one years ago and always remembered it when I finally decided to learn the guitar this year. Its not a Gibson but as its 30 years old Epiphone it has original gibson P90 pick ups and cost the same as a cheap new guitar. I know nothing but my mate says it sounds almost as good as a proper one though not when I play it.....
So a Yamaha Pacifica, good choice. 🙂 He'll need to watch a Youtube video on adjusting the intonation, it's visibly out in the pic. 😉
He’ll need to watch a Youtube video on adjusting the intonation
The good news is that's way easier on an electric than an acoustic
Well there's other crazy too. An hour before we got offered the Pacifica we bought this
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Jett js400 which according to reviews is brilliant but if Mrs Weeksy has her way, now she's found out, I expect it'll be sold. But it wasn't exactly expensive
I don't know what it is in truth at the moment. We went back to STWer to try and buy the Amp as he was local.. somehow we ended up with a 2nd guitar.. it wasn't planned and just kinda happened. But it's not a hardship of course.
This sort of magical shit just happens with guitars.
Daughter bought a Squire Bullet Mustang from RustySpanners. I happened to mention it to my FiL the day after and that we were looking for an amp, as ours registers on the Richter Scale. His reply was "I don't use mine any more, you can have it... and a barely used Squire Strat."
Bought a guitar. Accidentally ended up with two and an amp.
Magical Shit in action.
The red trainers didn't appear by magic.
He’ll need to watch a Youtube video on adjusting the intonation, it’s visibly out in the pic
That may as well be written in Arabic 😀