[Closed] Charlottesville

ninfan - Member

Imagine, people espousing physical violence against people they disagree with... the horror.

That is exactly what you have done you hypocrite!

Now are you going to answer any of the questions put to you, or just keep trolling?

It's not too late to ask for a hug...

The post was not about using "physical violence". It was about [i]killing[/i] people you disagree with.

Why do you spend so much time and effort trying to justify clearly abhorrent actions and attitudes?

Presumably, you approve of them, yes?

Now are you going to answer any of the questions put to you,

Otherwise what? You'll punch me in the face?

Just repeating the same questions I've already answered because you don't like the answer you've been given isn't debating you know.

The post was not about using "physical violence". It was about killing people you disagree with.

Ah, right, that'll be that non-violent type of killing will it?

The principle is the same - it's ridiculous whatablutery to claim that 'well, this level of violence is acceptable in pursuit of our aims, but it's not fair when other people are violent back, or are more violent than we are'

I would bitch-slap a Nazi. I wouldn't drive my car into them.

Spot the difference.

You're a rubbish troll, ninfan.

There's a big difference between giving a Nazi a slap (because they deserve a slap for being a Nazi) and mass murder. Get off the moral equivalence bus.

Also, I outlined the very specific set of circumstances required for a punch in the face a few pages back (in bold and everything), disagreeing with someone's point of view was not part of the criteria.

Now come on, have a bit of a think and come up with something which might actually challenge us, you are capable of it, I've seen you do it...

disagreeing with someone's point of view was not part of the criteria.

Right, so now you'll punch the nazis that you agree with too will you?

Edit: To quote what you said:

"Anyone who belongs to a group whose stated primary aim is to murder large groups of people deserves a punch in the face."

Right, so, come on, a challenge for you, where is it the Nazis stated primary aim to murder large groups of people

Go on, if it's a stated primary aim, show me exactly where it's stated!

So can we check how many communists were marching in the rally? How many are fighting in the US at the moment?
How does that compare with good old white people shooting other people or murdering them with their cars?
You know back on topic.

Right, so now you'll punch the nazis that you agree with too will you?

Wat?

I think ninfan's broken...

CTRL ALT DELETE ninfan.

ninfan - Member
disagreeing with someone's point of view was not part of the criteria.
Right, so now you'll punch the nazis that you agree with too will you?

To quote what you said:

"Anyone who belongs to a group whose stated primary aim is to murder large groups of people deserves a punch in the face."

Right so, come on, a challenge for you, where is it the Nazis stated primary aim to murder large groups of people

Go on, if it's a stated primary aim, show me exactly where it's stated!

we've done that already...

good old white people shooting other people

Because in America, good old brown people never shoot people, or get shot by brown people, of course...

Another interesting account that does not exactly agree with the Orange One's version

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/what_the_alt_left_was_actually_doing_in_charlottesville.html

fin25 - Member
CTRL ALT DELETE ninfan.

I think this game is finished, it's just the ball boys having a kick about now! 😆

[quote=ninfan ]Just repeating the same questions I've already answered because you don't like the answer you've been given isn't debating you know.

Does that mean you're going to answer the questions you haven't answered?

Just a mo...

what is the retaliation you're referring to, and what does it have to do with this thread?
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/charlottesville/page/9#post-8654333

Opening this thread is like when you do a really big poo, you know it's minging but you just have to look at it anyway...

ninfan - Member

Otherwise what? You'll punch me in the face?

No, this is another strawman.

Just repeating the same questions I've already answered because you don't like the answer you've been given isn't debating you know.

Liar.
You haven't answered any questions.

Where is the evidence that the murderer was fleeing?

How would you create the "master race" using peaceful means?

If the issue really is freedom of speech, where is the condemnation of a group of people (nazis) that want to deny that right (amongst others)?

Lunch in the canteen, or table for one in Subway?

There are many more.

No ninfan, I updated it, just for you, remember. Go back and have another look...

Just a mo...

I answered your question two posts later

Where is the evidence that the murderer was fleeing?

I said clearly, more than once, let's see what comes out in court

How would you create the "master race" using peaceful means?

Someone else answered this above

If the issue really is freedom of speech, where is the condemnation of a group of people (nazis) that want to deny that right (amongst others)?

All over, haven't you seen the news, or President Trump specifically condemning them?

Lunch in the canteen, or table for one in Subway?

Whatever mum brings down to me from upstairs in the kitchen

Here it is, do you think it needs another redrafting?

Anyone who belongs to a group whose stated primary aim is to murder large groups of people or has historically done so deserves a punch in the face.

All input will be gratefully received.

> Otherwise what? You'll punch me in the face?

No

Phew! That was close. If you suggest you might then he will run you over with his car. Because that's what non-violent people do apparently 😕

Here's a thing ninfan: although you find nazis repugnant you are clearly a big believer in freedom of speech, yes? So flipping your argument around, what gives the right-wing groups the right to try to suppress that free speech and disrupt those assemblies?

[quote=ninfan ]I answered your question two posts later

cite

Anyway ninfan, you haven't yet commented on the chap driving the car then getting his automatic rifle out and spraying bullets around, killing several baby robins.

I said clearly, more than once, let's see what comes out in court

So you have no evidence, and haven't answered the question. Liar.

Someone else answered this above

So you haven't answered. Liar.

All over, haven't you seen the news, or President Trump specifically condemning them?

Where's your condemnation? That was the question. Hence me calling you a hypocrite. And a liar.

Whatever mum brings down to me from upstairs in the kitchen

😐

I said clearly, more than once, let's see what comes out in court

Phew! That was close.

I'm off out, think I'll taxi it rather than walk...

I updated it, just for you, remember.

Didn't you only update it after you were unable to show where it was a stated primary aim.

So, you admit you were wrong first time, yeah?

Actually you started by saying credible sources were saying he was fleeing.

No I didn't, go back and read it

could the credible sources be the fine people trump was talking about?

No I didn't, go back and read it

So, let's just see,

@Fin25 initially said that mass murder was a stated primary aim of the Nazis, but was later forced to alter his own justification for punching Nazis after being unable to demonstrate that it was stated anywhere

@aracer accused me of not answering his question, even though I answered it two posts later (he may not have liked the answer, but hey, what you gonna do?)

@dissonance invented and inserted the word 'credible' of his own accord

And you all wonder why the left gets accused of #fakenews?

So, you admit you were wrong first time, yeah?

Yes, obviously, that's why, with your help, I updated it. I'm not afraid of being wrong, you know; Making mistakes is how we learn and improve as human beings.

But I still wholeheartedly support punching Nazis.

And you all wonder why the left gets accused of #fakenews?

I'm going to say it one more time, ninfan...

[b][i][u]I'm not left wing!!![/b][/i][/u]

ninfan - Member
after being unable to demonstrate that it was stated anywhere

After you completely ignored previous evidence supplied.

Anyhow i'm out, this is beyond ridiculous.

making mistakes is how we learn and improve as human beings.

Unfortunately Nazis require a good hard punch in the face to help them along with their learnins and thinkins cos it's the only language they understand.

Even if you are simply campaigning to politely impose retrospective restrictions on the skin colour of your community members, doing so whilst wearing the regalia of the people that conducted the holocaust indicates a rather weakened ability to productively process the subtlties of societal living..

Hence the necessary face punching

I'm going to say it one more time, ninfan...

I'm not left wing!!!

Quack, quack

fakenews y'say?

So, stories coming out now that his car had been surrounded by antifa protesters attacking him and he was trying to get away. Unverified but seems like a realistic scenario.

Quack, quack

Wat?

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He's using the blackadder defence! 😆

I'm not left wing!!!

fakenews y'say?

You quoted it yourself:

Unverified

You know, like rumours regarding Donald's collaboration with Russia

Wat?

If it walks like a duck...

@dissonance invented and inserted the word 'credible' of his own accord

and i apologised and stated why I would assume that.
Now. Are you going to provide links to these stories? Since the only place I have seen it claimed is in that video clip (vice i think) from one of the white supremacist leaders.
So I am curious if you have it from any source other than someone like that.

fin25 - Member
You're a rubbish troll, ninfan.

He most certainly is not.

You know, like rumours regarding Donald's collaboration with Russia

[img] [/img]

If it walks like a duck...

Let's follow your logic, ninfan.
You're calling me a lefty for being anti-Nazi.
Does that make you a Nazi for defending them?