wow the salmond thing is going nuts online. Seems to have worked from his point of view anyway in terms of getting a vast amount of attention, does seem in poor taste though. Poor old Chazza.
I was saddened to hear this news this morning. I always thought he came across as a decent guy.
Very, very sad indeed. Principled politician and a decent kind man.
He was a decent man who used to stand up for what was right.
But it didn't go unoticed that
[url= http://chrisspivey.org/shhh-its-an-official-secret/ ]he voted to block the opening of the Official Secrets Act, thus effectively protecting child molesters.[/url]
In the end it was obvious he was more or less toeing a party line and had lost his independent streak.
Crumbs you [b]english london folk[/b] and your loathing of AS
The gulf in class and integrity between Kennedy and Salmond couldn't have been better demonstrated
Yes till you read that you were sort of fence sitting about what you thought about him 😕
Its not exactly the worst thing you will read on the internet about his death.
Campbell article also in the Guardian.....excellent eulogy IMHO
A good piece on him in today's Guardian by [url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/02/charles-kennedy-alastair-campbell-lovely-man-a-talented-politician-a-great-friend ]Alastair Campbell[/url] - who was obviously a very good friend of his
Read his piece yesterday binners - he writes well; unlikely chums in many ways you'd have though eh? Can't get my head around Campbell at all - so much to dislike him for, and yet, and yet.
I know what you mean. I should dislike him immensely for numerous reasons, but.... He's been very honest about his own alcoholism and depression, and I do like his blunt Malcolm Tuckerishness!
I do find it odd that the man behind the dodgy dossier and one of the most vocal opponents of the war on Iraq would then go on holiday together. But in a lot of ways, that's quite admirable, and a testament to their freindship
also in Guardian (c) Steve Bell - [img] 
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jambalaya -oneyedSNPhater
I wonder how the subject of Kennedy's views came up...maybe he was asked? Oh,whats that;he was?
Coming soon to this thread,SNP killed Charles Kennedy (c) the spectator
jesus epicyclo can't you just leave it? the guy's died young leaving a young son without a dad, stop using it as a platform for all this unconcious sheep anti-english crap. There are plenty of other threads on here for all that chat.
Nice touch by Steve Bell, that.
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jesus epicyclo can't you just leave it? the guy's died young leaving a young son without a dad, stop using it as a platform for all this unconcious sheep anti-english crap.
You're right. Sorry.
(I wasn't having an anti English rant, just making the point that the press in Scotland is generally owned by English interests, ie not predisposed to Scottish interests.)
I have both eyes open when it comes to the SNP. I was only commenting on what appeared in that bastion of English right wing journalism, the Guardian.
The Steve Bell cartoon is a nice touch, saw that this morning.
I have both eyes open when it comes to the SNP
Of course you do,and your even handedness in commeting on anything to do with them is measured and balanced. See carmichael tread for an example.
Its not exactly the worst thing you will read on the internet about his death.
AS's comments aren't at all rude about CK (or at least I don't interpret them that way), the issue is with him using the opportunity to make a political point.
I'll say no more on this - I made my feelings about CK clear in my first post on this thread, and it doesn't need any more derailing.
by the usual suspects who are like a stuck record turning every political thread into a debate about AS and defending it as true and not biased 🙄
I didn't turn it into a debate, I just referenced a Guardian article. I thought you ignored all my posts anyway 8)
(I wasn't having an anti English rant, just making the point that the press in Scotland is generally owned by English interests, ie not predisposed to Scottish interests.)
I think, in fact, that is the (beginning of) an anti-English rant - claiming that English interests are both foreign and different to Scottish ones.
If you look at how the two places voted in the last general election its not unreasonable to suggest the people have different goals from their government and that their interests are different.
As for foreign it is and it is not another country depending on the issue - defence V law for example. Education v Foreign policy
One of those when you are a nation within a Union.
Very good point made by Ian Hislop, according to the Independent he came out with the observation that Charles Kennedy had better judgement drunk than many politicians do sober.
From Campbell's eulogy
Charles knew that it was possible to disagree with people without constantly feeling the need to condemn them as lacking in integrity or values
Something that explains how they were able to be friends and also something for several people to consider...
[i]Charles knew that it was possible to disagree with people without constantly feeling the need to condemn them as lacking in integrity or values[/i]
He obviously didn't post on STW then! 😕
Quite...
Rockape, indeed.
Quoting myself, today's gem below.
The gulf in class and integrity between Kennedy and Salmond couldn't have been better demonstrated
"Behave yourself, woman" Classy ? Enlightened ?
