"The red staining thing is a bit of an urban myth, a few weeks running around with 'white' diesel in your tank and you'll have washed any traces of red away."
having changed more than one fuel filter that has been run on red and subsequently with white - that is not true.
The irony being that they'll chase an individual for a few £100 avoided in tax yet Google, Amazon, Apple etc can legally avoid paying billions in tax, but there's no intention to close any loop holes which allow this.
Not that I condone any tax avoidance in any way.
Lets also not forget anyone who is self-employed and has the capacity to be paid in cash as well; indie shops, taxi drivers, plumbers etc etc etc. Everytime I've been told 'plus VAT' and asked for 'cash preferred' it rankles me.
The irony of running red in a £5k car has made me chuckle. 😉
Sorry to read that OP - I hope he gets a slap to teach him a lesson, but one that's bearable and doesn't see you in the poop or out of pocket.
The irony being that they'll chase an individual for a few £100 avoided in tax yet Google, Amazon, Apple etc can legally avoid paying billions in tax, but there's no intention to close any loop holes which allow this.
Now there's that complicated argument again...
I think one is evasion so against the law and the other is avoidance which is not. Hence the difference.
I think the real difference is that one is committed by relatively poor people and the other by multi-billionaires who are our politician's best friends.....
"The red staining thing is a bit of an urban myth, a few weeks running around with 'white' diesel in your tank and you'll have washed any traces of red away."having changed more than one fuel filter that has been run on red and subsequently with white - that is not true.
I had assumed that anybody trying to rid a vehicle of any traces of Red diesel would have done at least 1 filter swap anyway..
The red is a solvent dye there for marking purposes. A solvent yellow dye is added to home heating oil - it turns red in the presence of strong acids, another roadside test HMRC will carry out.
He's 22 so is old enough to know right from wrong.
It's a harsh reality that if he loses the car it will be his own fault. We all pay duty. Why the hell shouldn't he.
He will then probably lose his job as he has no way of getting to work.
This will mean he becomes a leech to the benefits system which he will never come off.
He'll get into hard drugs just to numb the passing of each day.
And you will never see the money he owes you just because of some red diesel.
I hope you have reported the money grabbing farmer to customs too.
I know a few lads who had rather nice motors in their early twenties, not via minted parents either, they are just happy to take on large bank loans (while they are still living with parents)A £5000 car at 22!
Can't see me ever getting a loan for a car (or bike for that matter).
I think the real difference is that one is committed by relatively poor people and the other by multi-billionaires who are our politician's best friends.....
Precisely. What is classed as avoidance or evasion is a political construction, not cast in tablets of stone on Mount Sinai.
amen ransos
[i]I hope you have reported the money grabbing farmer to customs too. [/i]
this although at £10/barrel it may well have been stolen?
All this talk about billionaires still doesn't help the OP, seeing a five grand car crushed and losing two and a half grand cash.
Poor Bugger.
Im not surprised if anybody uses red diesel these days what with the 80+ pence per ltr in "duty" (hate that word) what do we really expect? Its Extortion plain and simple.
We have become a nation of people who are being bullied and having our lunch money taken from us daily and are compliant in its action! I wouldn't mind as much of the country was in a better state from all this Theft from its inhabitants (but its most certainly Not!)
And confiscation pf yer lads car is just their nice way of saying we are stealing this car because yer not doing as yer told (by paying Us ours)
*stands back and awaits the judges jury and Executioners*
Look at the rest of Europe. It's the same or maybe a few cents less most in the other counties.
It's not just the UK.
Lawmanmx - duty on vehicle fuel is optional though?
If you don't want to pay it don't drive your car?
100% agree although I largely avoid the duty by riding my bike to work rather than using red diesel 🙂We have become a nation of people who are being bullied and having our lunch money taken from us daily and are compliant in its action!
Its Extortion plain and simple.
No it's tax. If you can't tell the difference you're an idiot.
*stands back and awaits the judges jury and Executioners*
Allow me..
from the man who is a health care tourist 😉We all pay duty. Why the hell shouldn't he
😀 It's lovely in Vienna today. Just going for a walk in the woods
I pay duty for the fuel in my Audi A1 when in the uk
Some people on here cant see the woods for the trees, Tax is something they take from you wether you like it or not! Thats Theft by any other name.
And i dont pay any of their fraudulent auto thefts any more as i sold the car and use my bike too 🙂
Its all a con.
There are Inherent rights and wrongs in this life and "tax" (theft) is one of them! We have been wronged for so long now we cant see the difference between them.
I totally agree. Lets all stop paying tax on everything.
That'll teach em.
I've never seen anyone who's 'anti-tax' suggest another, reasonable way to fund any public service even as basic as road infrastructure and street lighting that doesn't involve some sort of collective input into a pot of money which is then used for the public good.
So, Lawmanmx - these roads that you now cycle down - how should they be funded?
Some people on here cant see the woods for the trees,
You, for one.
How do you think the country runs? Fairy dust?
From what i can see the infrastructure has been there a very long time And paid for many times over, just do a little reserch on how much of you car tax is spent on the roads (infrastructure) and ask yourself where the rest is going?
Im not for zero taxation at all, i just thing this country and its owners take the piss out of its inhabitants, Blatantly too.
80+ pence per ltr ... Really??? C'mon Really?
"You, for one.
How do you think the country runs? Fairy dust?"
Obviously yes.
I would like for people to start thinking for themselves instead of what the "Daily mail" tells them to think.
All this talk about billionaires still doesn't help the OP, seeing a five grand car crushed and losing two and a half grand cash.
Poor Bugger.
You mean stupid bugger. If you can't do the time etc.....
how much of you car tax is spent on the roads (infrastructure) and ask yourself where the rest is going?
Into general taxation perhaps?
I meant the op (father)
From what i can see the infrastructure has been there a very long time And paid for many times over, just do a little reserch on how much of you car tax is spent on the roads (infrastructure) and ask yourself where the rest is going?
http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=470
"From what i can see the infrastructure has been there a very long time "
You think, perhaps, the Romans did a good enough job of building the A1 it doesn't need maintenance?
[i]Im not for zero taxation at all[/i]
so how much taxation are you for?
Lets face it, we have to pay tax.
Who else will pay for the paysrises I see the MPs are getting.
They do such an amazing job and deserve every penny.
From what i can see the infrastructure has been there a very long time And paid for many times over, just do a little reserch on how much of you car tax is spent on the roads (infrastructure) and ask yourself where the rest is going?
It's mostly funded from council tax. Seeing as I cycle rather than drive most of the time, could you send me a refund please? I take cheques or Paypal.
I would like for people to start thinking for themselves instead of what the "Daily mail" tells them to think.
IRONY ALERT!
I would like for people to start thinking for themselves instead of what the "Daily mail" tells them to think.
I suggest you put it down and get a breath of fresh air outside then....
I have nothing constructive to add, but an almost overwhelming desire to post something sanctimonious.
I have some sympathy for the OP (concerned parent) but not so much for his son. He knew he was doing wrong and as such should now pay the penalty.
This is not a tax debate - it's a law breaking issue.
Best of luck OP - not easy being a parent at times!
[i]how much of you car tax is spent on the roads (infrastructure) and ask yourself where the rest is going?[/i]
Uh Oh he said 'car tax'.
Who else will pay for the paysrises I see the MPs are getting.
They do such an amazing job and deserve every penny.
My understanding is that they are actually losing out because their benefits and what expenses they can claim are being cut?
My understanding is that they are actually losing out because their benefits and what expenses they can claim are being cut?
I guess the extremely generous pension scheme and subsidised food and drink will be some consolation.
Stop paying tax & buy a fat bike.
You'll need those big tyres once the roads disintegrate.
😈
I guess the extremely generous pension scheme and subsidised food and drink will be some consolation.
Well if it means that they have to pay to get their moat cleaned or keep their mistress in a Kensington flat, it's a small battle won. 😉
Iolo
We walked in the cold air
Freezing breath on a window pane
Lying and waiting
A man in the dark in a picture frame
So mystic and soulful
A voice reaching out in a piercing cry
It stays with you until
The feeling has gone only you and I
It means nothing to me
This means nothing to me 😉
can't tell if trolling or stupid......
