[Closed] Car drivers - what is your problem?

For God's sake, just read [url= http://www.st-1100.com/highway-code.html ]The Highway Code[/url]

MF - and to me my recollection is perfectly clear and accurate. *shrugs*

This cannot be reconciled.

However I am not throwing insults your way. I am just prepared to accept we remember this differently and to agree to differ.

Well I am prepared to accept you remembered things wholly incorrectly if that helps?

Well I am prepared to accept you remembered things wholly incorrectly if that helps

ridiculous internet battle but terrific quote 😆

I have no problem with filtering. I do it on my road bike and i know the bikers here at work do it but they do it at a not much faster than the traffics going speed and like me look out for cars that might just change lane. The problem is with this.

The biker could well have been filtering too fast

Bikers have to take reponsability for there lives as well as just bleating on about it being legal.

No arguments here.

I've no problem with letting bikers in or past, just don't fall off in front of me or crash into me.

I like bikes, I don't like how some are ridden but thats for them to realise what they're doing, I think there should be more bikes ridden here in the UK.

Awwww. I've been working so hard I missed this thread 🙁

Nowt wrong with filtering though. Traffic slaying ability is at least 1/3 of the reason I bought a bike in the first place

Nowt wrong with generouse horn usage either, especially when filtering. IMO that's proper use of horn, which means "I'm here" I think you'll find

And to be fair, most non-bikers have no idea of what even a mid range 500 is capable of, which is why it surprises them cocooned in their cars.

I've made the offer before, but I'll happily take anyone on a nice steady ride to demonstrate. 🙂

And to be fair, most non-bikers have no idea of what even a mid range 500 is capable of, which is why it surprises them cocooned in their cars.

What surprised me is that a 600 Bandit isn't faster than my car.
Only a VW Corrado VR6, nothing super fast, but up the duel carriage way off a roundabout we were dead equal up to about 60, then it was bye bye Bandit.

The look on his face as we passed was absolutely priceless, even my mrs was laughing at him.

Edit: Bike are pretty much always slower than cars on proper roads with corners. Look at any Nurburgring video, and even people in average cars make motorbikes look like they're mopeds.

Flow - your corrado is nothing like as fast as a bike. Forget it.

You could not keep up with a middleweight on any road.

seriously - get a grip adn look at the acceleration times. A commuter bike will do a sub 7 second 0-60 a sports bike under 4 seconds

Whats your corrado 0-60 time?

What surprised me is that a 600 Bandit isn't faster than my car.
Only a VW Corrado VR6, nothing super fast, but up the duel carriage way off a roundabout we were dead equal up to about 60, then it was bye bye Bandit.

For the record, my CB500 (with a massive 57bhp) was more than a match for a WRX Impretza. I had little problem staying ahead of it.

I would imagine a 600 Bandit would do a sub 5 second 0-60 time or thereabouts. You might gain ground over 70-80 ish, but by then he's gone.
You'd struggle to pass me on my 200cc Vespa as well.... That's roughly equal to a BMW 325 from a standing start, FYI 🙂

cb 500 (commuter bike) - 0-60 under5 seconds
BMW sbr 1000 0-60 2.5 seconds
0-100 5.4 seconds

vw corrado v6 0-60 over 6 seconds
1/4 mile 15 seconds.

BMW sbr 1000 - under 10 seconds 1/4 mile

Your car is slow

Teej, I think you're being a bit generous with the Corrado figures there, TBH. 15sec 1/4????

google - thats the V6 from autocar figures - IIRC it was 15.6

still very slow by bike standards

I've just found figured for a 2.9vr6 Corrado at 6.9 sec to 60. So it's pokey, but it seriously wont beat my scooter by much....

Apologies, you're pretty close actually
http://www.torquestats.com/index.php?car_id=218
🙂

flow - Member

What surprised me is that a 600 Bandit isn't faster than my car.
Only a VW Corrado VR6, nothing super fast, but up the duel carriage way off a roundabout we were dead equal up to about 60, then it was bye bye Bandit.

Hang on, so you "raced" him [i]up to the speed limit[/i], while he was clearly making no attempt to go particularily fast, then he stopped accelerating and you stormed away? Nice one Car drivers eh.

A few years back a kid in a hot hatch pulled up behind me at a set of lights and shouted "That was fast but I almost had you!". Apparently he thought we were racing- I was on a nice relaxed commute. But hey, he seemed pleased to have kept up with a bike ridden at about 30%.

Old Bandit 6s are pretty low performing lumps of pig iron, and they corner like the frame is made of tanfastics, but still they'll turn most cars inside out in a straight line, as long as the rider wants them to.

Like I said I was shocked, it was pretty obvious he was trying, it had the loudest race can ever.

This is a Golf VR6 which only has 170bhp vs a 600 Bandit

Corrado has 190bhp and is far from slow as its relatively light.

0-60 is actually 6.3 and 1/4 in 15.1 sec (Autocar, april 92)

To give you some idea, here are some 30-70 times, all from Autocar

[b]Corrado VR6 5.7[/b]
Boxster 2.7 5.9
Integrale Evo(210 bhp) 6.0
Clio V6 6.1
BMW 330Ci 6.1
Focus ST 6.4
Ferrari 308 6.4
Escort RS Cosworth 6.5
Sapphire Cosworth 6.5
E30 M3 6.7
UrQuattro (WR) 7.7

It is also widely regarded as one of the best handling FWD cars of all time, along with the Integra Type R and a few others.

Shut up Northwind, you weren't there so stop acting like you know it all.

Why would I make it up you utter _____

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Corrado VR6 5.7
Boxster 2.7 5.9
Integrale Evo(210 bhp) 6.0
Clio V6 6.1
BMW 330Ci 6.1
Focus ST 6.4
Ferrari 308 6.4
Escort RS Cosworth 6.5
Sapphire Cosworth 6.5
E30 M3 6.7
UrQuattro (WR) 7.7

So in a straight 0-60 fight a Bandit would waste the lot of them then.

Thats 30-70, not 0-60.

Watch the video and you will realise how slow they are.

And actually read my previous post.

flow - Member

Shut up Northwind, you weren't there so stop acting like you know it all.

Why would I make it up you utter _____

I didn't say you made it up, I said you thought you were in a race when you weren't, and then by your own admission you "won" that race by speeding. Course, that's really just as bad 😆

Either that, or I suppose possibly his bike was completely broken, or restricted. Restriction is possible I suppose, a 33bhp Bandit would still get to 60 about a second faster than a VR6 so a really badly ridden one might actually be tied with you.

Of course thats what happened, silly me 🙄

I suppose the Bandit in the vid is restricted too?

How much was that crystal ball by the way?

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Shamelessly stolen from another thread (ta defydude!)
Defend THAT TJ!
Was the nasty car driver too close to the white line and should have anticipated a bikerist coming along? 😆

Tell you something else, today I passed a Ferrari on my pushbike, therefore proving that Ferraris are slower than Carreras.

It's weird that you'd try and dispute the speed difference- you seem really defensive but it's not a fair fight, no dishonour to your car. The heaviest Bandit 6 weighs about 1/5th as much, but the Corrado only makes 2-and-a-half times the power of the lowest power Bandit 6. Which is why it'll get quarter of a mile away in 80% of the time it takes a Corrado VR6, and be going 10mph faster when it does so. Nip along to a rwyb some time and see what's what.

I mentioned restriction to give you an honourable out, incidentally.

I had a Bandit Northwind, you can't tell me anything about them.

Bandit is 79bhp 0-60 in claimed 4.8 but apparently more like 5. We didn't do 0-60 , thats why I posted 30-70 times.

Restricted to 33bhp (less than half power for you simpletons) it wouldn't have stood a chance.

You still didn't answer why the bandit in the vid I posted didn't rip the VR apart?

I know it happened, I was there, you telling me it didn't makes no difference to me.

Let TJ decide, he's good at making judgements on events he wasn't even present at.

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Photo of my first and second bikes.

03 NSR125R which I wrote off because some cock pulled out on me, and my 01 Bandit 600.

NSR derestricted with a carbon can Arrows race pipe was almost as quick as the Bandit.

Just seeing if I have any more.

Then when he realises he is wrong he is always happy to apologise.

ROFL @ m_f

Maybe Northwinds not his love child then, he's never wrong.

flow - Member

You still didn't answer why the bandit in the vid I posted didn't rip the VR apart?

Doesn't really look or sound like he's trying very hard tbh.

The performance figures speak for themselves, the Bandit is faster absolutely everywhere. You admit it's much faster to 60, and it's also faster to 100, and faster over a quarter- there's no point at which a VR6 can compete within this sort of range, at all.

There's only so many ways to beat a substantially faster machine. And just pretending it's not faster isn't one.

Did you ever have your Bandit restricted? They still top 60 in under 6 seconds.

Doesn't sound like hes trying much!

Its screaming its tits off, are you deaf?

Doesn't sound like hes trying much!

Its screaming its tits off, are you deaf?

You think that sounds like someone screaming a Bandit LOL... Come on....seriously...

Listen to the rpm, he's not taking that over 8000... It's a LONG way from the red line which i seem to recall being about 13,000 on a Bandit.

bigyin - thats crap riding by any standards. No lean angle for a start. 🙂

Seriously - its just crap dickhead power ranger has no idea

Flow - accept it - your car is far slower than a commuter bike.
0-60 / 30 - 70 / 1/4 mile

It's a Bandit, they always sound like that 😆 Hardly ever seen one without a horrible Micron or Scorpion on.

Seriously feller, just stop and think for a second rather than resorting to the personal nonsense. How does a bike go from 0-60 faster (which you've admitted), and 0-100 faster, and 0-quarter mile faster, (all from independant testing) and have a much higher terminal speed at the quarter... With its massive ptw benefit... Yet this one couldn't beat you from 30-70?

Here is how:
1) restricted- though would still be close
2) ridden quite [i]unbelievably[/i] badly.
3) completely broken
4) not trying.

But fair enough, you mentioned a very loud race can so I suppose that does make 3) at least slightly likely- if he's done some truly terrible DIY "tuning" then it could have some chronic misfire or something. And if he's the sort of bellend that would do that to his bike then he might actually think it's still fast, even though it's broken. Though it'd have to be properly bollocksed.

But a standard issue Bandit is faster than a standard issue VR6, when ridden/driven equally well, that's not in any dispute.

Weeksy is such a petrolhead he can tell what RPM he's doing 😆

I gave you as much video proof as I can.

I can't believe I'm arguing with people on the internet that weren't there 😆

Think what you like, bored now.

Edit, ok it was probably broken.

Flow - that vid - the bike is not maxed out, it enters the straight barely level with the car at a very low revs and without hitting the red line is ahead as it leaves the camera shot.

Nothing short of a supercar will get close to a midweight bike on acceleration - above 120mph when aero starts to take over a care will start to catch up. A superbike - no car will get close. Even a veyron driven by the buggati roadtester could get close to a BMW sbr 1000 on a road. Its been done.

an sbr 1000 has more BHP than your car for 1/6 th the weight 🙂

Flow, it's not a question of being a petrol head, it's years and years of owning bikes, riding bikes, racing bikes and knowing what i'm talking about. I've owned most 600 supersports on the market, along with 15 other motorbikes in the past 5 years, from KTM's, to R1's, Ducatis, and currently own botha Ducati 749 and a KTM 950 Supermoto.
I 'know' what rpm he's riding at through experience of riding bikes with the same and disticntly simillar engines, i've owned 2 gsxr 600's.

i'll even throw in a few race pics of me from my gsxr-750 days

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What track is that Weeksy?

Not really a bike man myself anymore, used to be. Had my daughter then gave it up, too dangerous round here.

Isn't this thread entitled ..Car drivers - what is your problem?
Beginning to understand now 🙂

Weeksy, obviously the VR6 is way ahead, it's not even in shot!

Flow, pic 1 is Snetterton, fast flowing track with 180mph straight.... i can talk you through a lap corner by corner, gear by gear and turn in points, braking markers etc if you like

Pic 2 is the famous 'mountain' at Cadwell park, until you've seen what the pros' can do there in person, well... you've not lived 🙂

p.s... this is NOT a photoshop... honest

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Northwind, your mouth is faster than any production bike