[Closed] Car drivers - what is your problem?

TJ, so obvious a troll that it's not even worth responding
Yet I did
Bugger

bigyin where did I defend doing a wheelie on the road? 🙄 the point being that despite the posters hysterics about it nothing went wrong. Merely pointing out that the hysterical tone that MF and a bunch of others uses to discuss motorcycles so closely mimics the hysterical tone that ramblers use about cyclists.

MF has loads of previous of being hysterical about motorcycles when actually he clearly has no idea of the capabilities at all. Same as the ramblers who moan about mountainbikers

Inbred456 - Member

How many times when moving in slow traffic on a dual carriageway have you thought about changing lane, you know where all the cars around you are then out of nowhere a biker speeds through inbetween the cars and you think thank god I didnt pull across. Who would be at fault there?

Never happened to me, I look and I signal, like you're supposed to, before I move. Because y'know what- there might be a bike there. Engined or otherwise.

Still, in this thread I imagine it'd be perfectly all right to pull out into a motorcyclist- just not a cyclist 😉

No I don't TJ - I have discussed TWO cases of stupid motorcycling on here - the above mentioned one (which we had a spat over months ago) and the other where a friend (riding a big Jap bike) was 'overtaken' at a junction by a clown who thought it safe to do so - pulling onto a busy road and making my friend take avoiding actions (again you chose to defend the dangerous riding).

So its up to me to make sure i'm not being undertaken by a motor bike at speed down the middle of the road. Hmmm you may be right, still i'm in a car so i'll be allright. If only we could all be as good as you TJ. Motor bikes are incredibly hard to see on the near side when they are weaving through traffic. Mirror signal manouver is not fast enough when a bike is coming through. Maybe we should change the law and just give motorbikes right of way regardless.

TandemJeremy - Member

the point being that despite the posters hysterics about it nothing went wrong.

Nothing went wrong but are you really going to say it couldn't have done? Wheelies and similiar on the road are always iffy but combined with a tight overtake approaching a blind summit? I wouldn't defend that.

Inbred456 - Member

So its up to me to make sure i'm not being undertaken by a motor bike at speed down the middle of the road. Hmmm you may be right, still i'm in a car so i'll be allright.

Yes, of course it is. Or a pushbike for that matter. Or anything else. Mirror, signal, maneuvre, it's pretty much the absolute most basic thing all drivers are supposed to know.

As for being alright, wouldn't want to be you in court when you say "How was I supposed to know there was a bike there? Look in my mirrors or something? Come on now, that's mad. Indicate? Why?"

No MF - you have done it more than that - several more occasions and you are hysterical about motorcycles anytime you mention them.

Its exactly the same as the way the ramblers go on about MTBers

"frightened me too close too fast don't obey the law"

Northwind - I didn't defend it

so actually perfectly in control and no risk to anyone else?

Looks like defending it to me 🙄

Have I TJ? Show me these occasions then.

MF - you did. Maybe you have forgotton. One was a rant about a biker daring to overtake you in traffic and startling you with how fast he went. his fault that you were not watching your mirrors and didn't see him apoparantly

Crispo - where did I defend it? I didn't say it was safe or acceptable - I just pointed out that actually the rider controlled the vehicle and didn't put anyone at risk. which is true

so actually perfectly in control and no risk to anyone else?

Definitely defending

Do you guys understand language? Show one word that defends his actions.

An alternative interpretation is not defending him is it? 🙄

Reads like defending to me

TJ - that was the above-mentioned example and it startled my passenger not me. Next?

No risk to anyone kind of implies it was safe no?

Well MF if it was the same incident its a very different story NO wheelie mentioned for starters and no oncoming car or blind summit. Just a bike overtaking you at speeds well in excess of 100 mph and no mention of braking in front of you. so actually a different story. If its the same incident then you really do like to embellish a story to fit your rant of the day

there are others as well MF - you have forgotten them it would appear

you really do get very hysterical about bikes just like a rambler about mountainbikes

Find that thread TJ - I have changed nothing at all - and I never mentioned speeds at the time either. I am 100% confident that what I stated above is a fair description of what happened and matches what I said in the original thread. Unfortunately you often don't read what is said, instead preferring to read what you want to believe.

Pot kettle and black MF

What you put in the thread above is nothing like the earlier incident you described.

Come on Couger, people who buy sports bikes buy them for the speed thrill, fast acceleration.

CougAr. And yes, some do. Most even, perhaps. What you're overlooking is, [i]this does not mean everyone on two wheels speeds inappropriately everywhere.[/i] Oddly, the ones who draw attention to themselves are the ones who draw attention to themselves.

Have I got time to pull out or are they going to rear end me at 140mph.

If you genuinely can't judge speeds, you can get refresher lessons. I know bikes are smaller than cars, so it's more difficult. Shouldn't cost you too much, and they might throw in a copy of the Highway Code if you ask them nicely.

How many times when moving in slow traffic on a dual carriageway have you thought about changing lane, you know where all the cars around you are then out of nowhere a biker speeds through inbetween the cars and you think thank god I didnt pull across.

Very rarely. I want to say 'never' but I can't be 100% certain over the last 20 years. I employ a couple of radical techniques when changing lanes, you see. First I check my mirrors (though I've got a reasonable idea of what's behind me), and check my blind spot. Assuming it's clear, I then indicate. I then wait a moment, and then perform the same checks before changing lanes whilst still performing all-round observation.

On the off-chance that somehow a bike has slipped through the net, maybe he beamed down off the Enterprise or maybe I'm not paying as much attention as I should (mistakes happen), the bike should still have seen my indicators, been ready for me to do something stupid (because this is what most bikers expect of car drivers IME) and then reacted accordingly.

So its up to me to make sure i'm not being undertaken by a motor bike at speed down the middle of the road.

Yes. Yes it is. Sorry.

Mirror signal manouver is not fast enough when a bike is coming through.

Cobblers. Maybe if you hit the indicator halfway through the manoeuvre before giving an afterthought to looking vaguely somewhere else other than the car in front's tail lights, then in that case yes, those pesky other road users might get in your way.

Show me then. I never intentionally lie or embellish the truth and am confident the two accounts broadly match.

Read the first page and skipped the middle, am a biker so always move over when i spot them coming, am also a van driver so do use my wing mirrors a fair deal, lots of motorists don't they use the rear view so often are just ignorant, as to the tossers who pull out to try and stop you, my best advice? Carry a hammer strapped to the tank, give them a couple of taps as you go by, they'll soon learn.

🙄 another Arnie on his motorbike

Yep that is great advice. There are some Grade A Cocks on here sometimes.

Inbred456 - Member

So its up to me to make sure i'm not being undertaken by a motor bike at speed down the middle of the road. Hmmm you may be right, still i'm in a car so i'll be allright. If only we could all be as good as you TJ. Motor bikes are incredibly hard to see on the near side when they are weaving through traffic. Mirror signal manouver is not fast enough when a bike is coming through. Maybe we should change the law and just give motorbikes right of way regardless.

I'm not defending idiots on a speed trip, wheelies from traffic light to traffic light, but there's nothing wrong with sensible filtering. Using your car to assert your opinion that there is just identifies you as an A-grade bell-end. I bet you froth at the mouth and drive halfway across the two lanes the minute you see a "2 lanes to 1 in 800 yards" sign as well.

The only filtering I have seen has been mental filtering at speed on a motorway and I swear I could see a little guardian angel flying behind the motorcyclists concerned.

you want crazy filtering....

here you go

Been riding motorbikes for 7 years now. And i used to get really serious road rage with Car driver due to the filtering episodes and the SMIDSY's but now the attitude of everyone is out to knock you off and try to block your progress. I just let them get on with it. If someone blocks me while filtering, i will wait till i can eventually get passed and not even acknowledge its bothered me.

One thing i can't stand, tail gating. Really what is the point? Why tailgate me when there's a big line of cars ahead. Once the speed limit increases they are left for dead.

And the reason Ghostrider has never been successfully unmasked is because Ghostrider gets smeared under the wheels of an artic every week.

What is a SMIDSY?

you want crazy filtering....

here you go

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Edit: You have to watch it all

 

SMIDSY - Sorry mate i didn't see you. Roughly translated to. Sorry pal i wasn't looking because i was to preoccupied in my own little world to be arsed about you.

Most car drivers are cocks, they're the same cocks who'll turn left and have you off you're push-bike, not that i ride that much on the road, but when i do, i guarantee there will have to be a wing kicking incident at least once during an average week of commuting..

Van truck & UK HGV driverson the other hand are generally more bike aware, i say UK because round here we get a lot of deaths from Continental HGV vehicle incidents.. (The M20 is where the Channel Tunnel kicks out and I swear everyone in South East Kent knows of someone killed by a continental truck, I reckon they almost kill as many as cancer, I swear to God.

As to you motorists preventing bike filtering i do fail to see your problem with it.

you want crazy filtering....

here you go

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That has nothing on this

Edit: You have to watch it all

my last road rage incident was due to me pottering past a line of traffic to the front of a que at some lights. Pulled away and the cock in the car thrashed the shit out of his people carrier to stay along side me, it was only a 20mph limit so I couldnt really just leave him behind so I slowed to go behind. So he slowed too, so I gave it a quick blip and moved in front of him. By this point we had pretty much reached the next lights and this bloke was shouting all kinds of abuse at me so I stopped and stepped up to his window. Apparently I should "****ing well wait like everyone else has to" and even better he was going to "****in run me over". At this to my eternal shame I reached in his window took his keys and threw them away. It all ended with a bit of a scuffle and the driver of the car behind pulling the bloke away and telling him he was driving like a cock. The worrying thing was the blokle must have been in his 50's and I really dont think he could see where his keys were lying on the footpath.

Most people dont seem to mind filtering but as the OP said some pull over and some get really quite angry. My rule of thumb is to keep below 20mph if going past stationary traffic and not to let the differential go above 20mph.

The Flying Ox - Member

And the reason Ghostrider has never been successfully unmasked is because Ghostrider gets smeared under the wheels of an artic every week.

Well that's certainly well informed. Neither a secret identity, nor dead.

More fool you if you think your so called *facts* will get in the way of my blind, uneducated rantings.

Filtering would appear to be some sort of euphemism for a motorcyclist risking loads by trying to ride significantly quicker between the traffic on the road he/she is riding on.

All it takes is SWDNSY (someone who did not see you) changing lane and BANG!

The only filtering I have seen has been mental filtering at speed on a motorway

Do you not do much driving, or just do it with your eyes shut?

Most car drivers are cocks, ... i guarantee there will have to be a wing kicking incident at least once during an average week

You know, you're not doing much to support your case.

Ho hum - Member

Filtering would appear to be some sort of euphemism for a motorcyclist risking loads by trying to ride significantly quicker between the traffic on the road he/she is riding on.

No filtering is a legitimate and legal procedure in stationary or slow moving traffic. You can fail your motorcycle test for not doing it

Cougar - Member
Do you not do much driving, or just do it with your eyes shut?

I drive plenty chap.

I was just commenting on my experience.

No need for the cheekiness.

TJ - as I have just replied to Cougar I am just commenting on my experience. For some reason I don't see many bikers on the roads I am on (that's because they filter so quickly past me 😉 kidding)

No need for the cheekiness.

I don't mean to be cheeky; just, well, it's got to be one or the other, or you have a particularly atypical demographic of riders around you. Or you're telling porkies, I suppose, but I assumed not.

Did you find that original thread yet TJ? Ready to prove me wrong in your wild accusations yet?

The Flying Ox - Member

More fool you if you think your so called *facts* will get in the way of my blind, uneducated rantings.

Well played 🙂