[Closed] Cameron and the Pig

we've all become so used to tales of our elite burning £50 notes in front of homeless people and trashing restaurants

Surely everyone at University did this?

Same goes for dressing up as Hugo Boss and gate crashing a bar mitzvah.

Well go on, name someone.

Cameron's the prime minister, he won't be suing anyone or even speaking about the matter or even denying it.

That's all you'll hear from him or his office. because it is true

FTFY
IMHO the lack of a denial is very telling. He is a PR man and a PR man gave this answer because it was the best they could give. Please reflect on why that might be the case.

I just think the fact there's no evidence and the story originates from someone with a personal grudge means it shouldn't be given too much credit.

IMHO the lack of a denial is very telling. He is a PR man and a PR man gave this answer because it was the best they could give. Please reflect on why that might be the case.

TBH, had the PM bothered to deny it i would tend to agree.

The Hunter S Thompson stuff quoted above applies. If you're denying shagging a dead pig, the headline is 'Cameron denies porking'. If you 'don't even dignify it with a comment', then the newspaper doesn't have such an easy way of regurgitating it for our amusement. Eventually the news machine turns its gaze onto claims that Jeremy Corbyn pleasured a squirrel*

*allegedly 🙂

They wanted something that was plausible without lying that was the best they could do

for want it to be true [ shooting the messenger a bit] I dont really care as I dont think any more or any less of him as I dont [ foreign aid budget aside] I have little respect for him anyway.

Squirrel Castro?

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trashing restaurants at their special university drinking societies

So the womens uni hockey and rugby teams have re-branded as a special drinking societies?

"I just think the fact there's no evidence and the story originates from someone with a personal grudge means it shouldn't be given too much credit."

TBH, had the PM bothered to deny it i would tend to agree.

So you disagree and think we should give plenty of credit to a story with no evidence and which originates from someone with a personal grudge.

I have to say that I'm finding the comments from people whom you would expect to be the first to denounce tabloid gutter raking, and salacious innuendos deliberately aimed at damaging politicians, quite remarkable.

What's your opinion on Corbyn being a supporter of terrorism Junkyard? Can we assume that as he hasn't sued any newspaper for suggesting the possibility that he is indeed a supporter of terrorism? In this case we've even seen the photographic evidence!

And you ridicule JHJ for offering his assumptions as credible evidence, ffs.

The claims come from Michael Ashcroft.

That's enough for me to be confident that whatever else I might think of DC, he didn't do this.

So you disagree and think we should give plenty of credit to a story with no evidence and which originates from someone with a personal grudge.

You can't really say that imo oldnpastit. While there is a clear motive why Lord Ashcroft would want to damage Cameron it doesn't automatically mean therefore that it's not true.

If he didn't do it he'd deny it. Danger with that is if someone produces a photo, he's really done for. So the best he's been able to do is make a very weak joke about backstabbing and a little pr*ck. Ashcroft wouldn't make this up, it wouldn't be worth his (admittedly weakened) credibility being utterly destroyed.

May I just say that Ernie is ON FIRE in this thread!

[i]#makes gangster respect sign#[/i] 8)

Junkyard - lazarus

........... I am not interested in hitting big

No of course not ! 😆

You are at your goading best today to be fair but I am genuinely trying to give it up. Not always successfully but with your support who knows what I can achieve

You can't really say that imo oldnpastit. While there is a clear motive why Lord Ashcroft would want to damage Cameron it doesn't automatically mean therefore that it's not true

If we couple this with the absence of a denial of the claim what are your thought on this page ? 😉

@ Junkyard - you take these arguments on threads far too seriously imo. If this carries on you are just going to get more and more personal, as you always do, so quite frankly I can't really be arsed anymore.

I'm convinced he did it.

I'm also sure the earth didn't move for the pig.

Oink, oink... 🙂

If he didn't do it he'd deny it.

Not at all.

He's probably been advised to not comment so as to appear to above mud slinging etc. Also, once you start denying specifics, he'd get sucked into having to deny / admit every single thing in the book.

Not that anyone GAS as to whether he did or didn't. Must win the award for storm in a thimble of 2015....

Ernie has indeed been very good one this thread, but I imagine he is quite annoyed with Lord Ashcroft because if he had refrained from repeating silly tittle tattle but made his only really damaging allegation - that Cameron knew about his tax status earlie, it would have gained more traction because Ashcroft would have more credibility. As it is, everyone thinks it is all about revenge

This seems to be a thread where @ernie and I agree on something. The claims are not plausible at all. Cameron isn't going to sue anyone it's just not worth it not least as it creates more publicity.

What @mefty says has some merit too although I also think the non-dom status and the timing of when Cameron knew is pretty irrelevant too.

I imagine he is quite annoyed with Lord Ashcroft

I'm furious with him.

Actually earlier I read yesterday's Daily Mail serialization of his book, **** me that geezer hates Cameron! Or a least he's determined to extract the maximum revenge.

I was genuinely shocked at the extent that Ashcroft is prepared to slag-off Cameron. Reading what Ashcroft was saying about Cameron's allegedly lowbrow taste you'd think he sees Cameron as some sort of chav. Which is all the more strange as Cameron at least has a minor aristocratic background which as far as I know is more than Ashcroft has.

Also I assume that the book's title "Call Me Dave" is a pisstake at Cameron's attempt to portray himself as a common man, ridiculing Cameron for having common tastes seems to contradict that strategy.

The claims are not plausible at all.

I also think the non-dom status and the timing of when Cameron knew is pretty irrelevant too.

You think the Prime Minister lying to Parliament and the Country is irrelevant ?

What's the point of him opening his mouth and speaking if the truth is irrelevant ?

Don't you think basic standards of honesty and integrity apply to Tory politicians ?

You truly say some remarkable things on here jambalaya, blinded as you are by your ideology and partisan views.

you'd think he sees Cameron as some sort of chav. Which is all the more strange as Cameron at least has a minor aristocratic background

Aristocracy is no guarantee of taste - ever looked around a posh house? Most of them are perfect examples of what you get when you combine inbreeding and too much money.

ever looked around a posh house?

Not one owned by an inbreed with too much money, no.

This seems to be a thread where @ernie and I agree on something.

Well more fool you it is not more frequent, Ernie has very good political insights whatever your overall view, something both you and Lord Ashcroft could learn from, I certainly have.