As I think has been said. Maybe not a bad thing the disagreement with AZ is going to court. Hopefully the truth will out.
Backing Brexit surely one of the biggest political self-pwns in history
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1387421902847754247?s=19
The house of cards that is Brexit is is beginning to extract its price it seems.
Unfortunately even those that despise it will be chipping in too.
Excellent news she had gone though. Superb stuff!
Maybe...
I’m no fan of hers but I do wonder if her departure means a lurch to the hard line elements of the DUP. If so, this would be very bad news for the NI peace process...
If they want votes they'll need someone relatively moderate or Alliance will hoover up their voters
An interesting couple of paragraphs from this article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56907858
Arlene Foster led the party's campaign in favour of Brexit, but struggled once its ramifications for the union came into view.
Betrayed by Boris Johnson when he signed up to the Brexit deal that would mean different trading arrangements for Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK, Mrs Foster faced accusations of poor judgement for trusting a prime minister who has disregarded the union.
She should have gone over cash for ash, but on the plus side for a united Ireland she has played a blinder.
Foster made on key mistake. Trusting Boris Johnson.
But at least she can be confident that the fault is entirely hers. I have to put up with the fact that I was dragged into all this against my will.
**** Brexit and all who sail in her.
I've got a new anthem for the DUP if they want it:
Was just about to post that. Another win for taking back control...
But the UK consumer is moving from cod and haddock to sardines, crab and langoustine, no? Oh…
June mummery on lbc at the moment not doing herself any favours with her Brexit fisheries deal she voted for, all ive heard so far is "TAKE BACK CONTROL"
https://twitter.com/june_mummery/status/1387849293797670913?s=20
I'm not even going to click on that joke of a news source the Daily Express.
She's trying to blame Starmer for Johnson's sterling work in screwing over her industry? There's a lot of that projection going on right now.
I didn't expect anyone to click on the express link, it was merely to highlight who Brexit politician June Mummery is and her relation to the fishing industry
I think the fisherfolk just didn't believe hard enough. What a shitshow.
and her relation to the fishing industry
Real 'leopards ate my face' territory there. She has literally pushed for the obliteration of her own business.
June Mummery is a ***king idiot.
If she isn't, she does a brilliant impersonation of one.
She has literally pushed for the obliteration of her own business.
Its worse, she persuaded others to vote for something which would destroy businesses in the area..
Looks like cod and chips is gonna get a price hake then.
I just listened to JoB and June.
What 'spell' is it that Johnson puts on folk, and do you need to be a particular type of person to fall for it?
There is no "spell" as such, only thick as in shit for brains stupidity masquerading as the Brexit death cult.
What ‘spell’ is it that Johnson puts on folk, and do you need to be a particular type of person to fall for it?
But June had fallen under Farage's even more inexplicable spell long before she fell for Johnson.
It can only be "shit for brains stupidity" combined with a large dose of selfishness and xenophobia.
do you need to be a particular type of person to fall for it?
Millions of people have, including highly experienced, worldly wise, well educated, intelligent political operators who have come to regret it. It absolutely isn't just the stupid, or those blinded by over zealous loyalty to country and countryman. There are so many cracks opening up because of his lies though, and they all need prizing open... every one of them, to show everyone just how duplicitous and damaging he is. While people keep following him, and being accepting of him, the mess he will leave in his wake once he is gone will keep pilling up, and take much longer to undo that it took for him to create.
It can only be “shit for brains stupidity” combined with a large dose of selfishness and xenophobia.
That's the basic explanation I keep coming back to for this 'bit of a mess'.
You're too charitable. You don't have to be of even mediocre intelligence to realise that kicking your closest trading partners and allies in the balls is a bad idea.
My take on this is that on many occasions people are more swayed by emotion than logic.
When those emotions are stoked up fear, anger and intolerance etc it's a powerful concoction.
It can only be “shit for brains stupidity” combined with a large dose of selfishness and xenophobia.
Overly simple answers to complex problems is exactly how we ended up in this position.
nope, shit for brains stupidity is exactly why we are where we are
Overly simple answers to complex problems is exactly how we ended up in this position.
Maybe.
Care to have a go at explaining it without invoking:
a) Stupidity
b) Gullibility
c) Racism
d) Xenophobia
e) Any combination of the above
???
nope, shit for brains stupidity is exactly why we are where we are
100%
I've given up expecting anyone who wanted this to realise, though.
The only question of relevance now is how much economic and geopolitical damage 'we' can tolerate before we go cap in hand back to the EU.
Or, more likely, take the weasely option and pay miles over the odds to go back into a few bits by stealth.
****tery. Pure and simple.
****tery. Pure and simple.
Some people will do anything to a get fancy wallpaper and a camouflaged sofa.
As long as they aren't picking up the tab.
In more good Brexit news, Arlene Foster being given the boot marks the victory of the more hardline Unionists (by their standards, she’s actually regarded as a moderate).
It’s the elections for the Northern Irish Assembly next year and if the hardline ‘no surrender’ unionists can get a majority they can vote to unilaterally void the Northern Ireland protocol. Another little gem of a clause that Boris and Lord Frost negotiated.
That would spell the end of the GFA and unleash one almighty shitstorm, probably of the explodey variety
The alternative outcome is that the unionist vote is split between the DUP and the more hardline unionist minority parties, which would deliver a majority for Sinn Fein who could then appoint a first minister who could then set an agenda for unification.
Imagine how that’s going to go down with Boris and co in Westminster?
Either way, things are about to get pretty bloody ‘lively’ in NI
Brexit. The gift that just keeps giving.
^^^^
There's at least one more iteration of Brexity/extremist bellendery to come in terms of both the Prime Minister and DUP leadership. After that, who knows?
The electorate grow up?
We descend into some kind of failed state, extremist shithole*.
*More than 'we' are now, that is.
Imagine how that’s going to go down with Boris and co in Westminster?
I doubt very much he gives a shit any more. He knows he is going to go down in history as the shambling conman who sold his country down the river and restarted civil war in NI.
Unless he really is utterly bereft of any brain cells, he 'should' be in full 'empty the till, burn the place down and try to claim on the insurance' mode. The only thing he has ever shown any ability/diligence at has been self-promotion.
What about another approach? Brexit was sold as bringing back sovereignty, removing corrupt Brussels bureaucrats, global Britain. What the tories are giving us is corruption, basket case Britain and the breakup of the UK. Isn’t this an open goal?
Isn’t this an open goal?
Depends on how highly you rate the intelligence of the electorate.
Depends on how highly you rate the intelligence of the electorate.
This. Starmer is frightened to shoot at that open goal because a majority of his potential voters still think Brexit is a great idea. Criticising it is though to be electorally dangerous.
They don’t need to criticise Brexit. They need to criticise the tories for doing the opposite of what they promised Brexit was going to deliver
They don’t need to criticise Brexit. They need to criticise the tories for doing the opposite of what they promised Brexit was going to deliver
Most people haven't felt any effects yet. People that vote for the likes of Johnson don't give a **** about anyone but themselves and those close to them.
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Full MemberThis. Starmer is frightened to shoot at that open goal because a majority of his potential voters still think Brexit is a great idea. Criticising it is though to be electorally dangerous.
Which is nonsense, of course- you can say "boris johnston's terrible brexit deal is causing this" without saying "brexit is bad". Of course brexit is bad and of course Starmer thinks brexit is bad and that does make it trickier but he can't just avoid the whole b-word. Even the biggest brexiteer can still be convinced that there are individual parts of it that are bad. Or, with a little luck, that the glorious brexit that they expected is being undermined by things that Johnston and his idiots have done.
Most people haven’t felt any effects yet. People that vote for the likes of Johnson don’t give a **** about anyone but themselves.
Ftfy. Yet to meet someone who admits to voting tory and has a sense of community that extends further than their own skin.
Nah, I know community minded people who vote Tory, and voted Brexit… they just think it can be all done on an adhoc basis between people, without national government help, or cooperation between nations. How they can still think that after the last 12 months I don’t know, but that idea runs deep in a lot of people.
Be interesting to see how locals play out in fishing communities
