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Great quote from 'the EU' - when the temperature rises, frost melts.
This is what happens when you promise the earth to a bunch of delusional hardline fundamentalist nut-jobs, which you know is impossible to deliver, just to get yourself in power
Sooner or later you’re expected to deliver the moon on a stick that you promised them
Looking at that WhatsApp exchange, can you imagine the sheer critical mass of ignorance and stupidity involved in the ‘Clean Global Britain’ group?
You can absolutely guarantee that these are the same gaggle of shit-thick libertarian bell-ends who equated having to put a face mask on in Tesco to fascism last week
in the ‘Clean Global Britain’ group?
Its pretty much the same as the use of "democratic" in the title of a country. If you need to include it you are buggered.
That said I do have a certain level of agreement for any group which gives Dorries the boot. Its just I would keep going and possibly include nukes from orbit.
martinhutch
Full Member
‘Clean Global Brexit’ – at least that confirms the suspicion that leaving the planet is the aim here.
😂
How are these people MPs?
How on earth did they convince half the electorate that brexit was a good Idea?
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1472333400103133184?t=4cA4quwbbylNvfMWr6TOgQ&s=19
How on earth did they convince half the electorate that brexit was a good Idea?
They didnt.
The media did by choosing carefully chosen cheerleaders and refusing to question them.
Johnsons breakdown this week when Coates dared to challenge him about anything other than the happy path demonstrates this perfectly. The "golden rule" is apparently if you cant say anything nice dont say anything.
Despite waffle otherwise in reality very few of us have ever met our local mps or anyone more senior and so we are completely reliant on what image the media chooses to provide to us. Whether that is positive going lets quote them without question, negative with lets quote them in a misleading fashion or simply ignoring them to allow the simpleminded to go "ohhh why didnt they speak out about x" its still the pattern dark or otherwise we see.
Well until things are so badly messed up we notice without the medias help.
According to the Guardian, Ian Duncan Smith being lined-up to replace Frosty - so we’re sending an intellectual lightweight to do Boris’ bidding - the EU must be quaking in their boots
Great quote from ‘the EU’ – when the temperature rises, frost melts.
The oven-ready deal has been de-Frosted.
Ian Duncan-Smith?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The oven-ready deal has been de-Frosted.
Very good.
What a feeble flounce. Send your boss a resignation letter saying how much you fundamentally disagree with the direction he is taking the nation and the covid measures being put in right now, but then be persuaded to hang on a few more weeks, presumably because BJ could not handle any more immediate bad news.
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Lord Frost turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Lord Frost
so we’re sending another intellectual lightweight to do Boris’ bidding
FIFY
I’m torn , now that the total ****ing idiots hate Dumbojoi I feel dirty agreeing with them and am now thinking I should like him.
The erg loons getting what they want is a dangerous thing. Now hoping he stays in the job for a while while they tear each other apart all over again. Not that it worked out well last time…
The use of WhatsApp… is that an approved app for the discussion of government business? What with the Patriot and CLOUD acts and data being stored in the US…
Asking for a friend. Would hate to see the ICO looking into this.
Willard. Exactly what I was thinking.
According to the Guardian, Ian Duncan Smith being lined-up to replace Frosty
… and the utter humiliation of Brexit Britains stupidity will be there for all the world to see
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
How are these people MPs?
That WhatsApp chat is hilarious. It's all a bit Handforth Parish Council.
It could also be viewed as a bit scary. These people are running the country. There's been debate for a long time around who will replace Johnson when the inevitable happens, but given that he's replaced the entire cabinet with shouty and extreme brexity types based on those qualifications alone, the question is, can it ever return to anything resembling what it formerly was? I'm genuinely a bit frightened about what comes next.
@binners
I think you're underestimating the quiet man of British politics there.
The fact they call me Frosty just makes me think of;
@ThePilot +1
IDS has never struck me as particularly stupid by Tory standards (obviously it's a fairly low bar with the current cabinet!)
Evil and barely able to hide his utter contempt for poor people yes, but not thick.
the daily fail are hinting at further Allegra tapes doing the rounds relating to Johnsons private life.
IDS has never struck me as particularly stupid by Tory standards
Yes, he's a genius negotiator:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurasilver/our-policy-is-having-our-cake-and-eating-it
@Tom-B I was joking to be honest.
It's what he told his fellow Tories before they unceremoniously dumped him as party leader.
I'm sure he's not thick but I can't see him, or anyone for that matter, making a success of these Brexit negotiations. Unless it's Dr Who and a time machine.
@ThePilot +1
I took ThePilot's post to be a pisstake of a cringe worthy comment IDS once made rather than a recognition of his intellectual capabilities.
Edit : As pointed out above!
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
I really must stop drinking coffee whilst reading STW threads...
A man doing ‘our’ negotiating who could be outwitted by a pot plant
No shame in that. Did you never watch 'The Adventure Game'?
If only it could end with him being hurled into a galactic void?
If only it could end with him being hurled into a galactic void?
Sent to represent a constituency in the north of England? Steady on.
He got a bit confused and claimed his languages course in Padua was a degree, bless him.
Ah right, I missed both that IDS quote, and the gist of your post @ThePilot.
If we're using the ability to sort out Brexit as a mark of intelligence though, then a can't help but feel that most are going to come up short!
If we’re using the ability to sort out Brexit as a mark of intelligence though, then a can’t help but feel that most are going to come up short!
I would say using the belief that Brexit can be “sorted out”, and to Britain’s advantage is a useful mark of intelligence. IDS believes both, but can achieve neither.
I used to work with people who knew him when he was in sales at GEC, their opinion of him wasn’t high.
They are all under the misconception that there's anything to negotiate. They signed the deal. It's now just a minster of hot air and provocative bollocks to renege on the deal and then back down when the EU gets serious about applying it. Thus maximising bad will.
the daily fail are hinting at further Allegra tapes doing the rounds relating to Johnsons private life.
Bit disappointed that these have t appeared as yet.
Mr sparkle, undoubtedly there is more to come but this is being managed to cause maximum discomfort to johnson.
Don't expect a massive bundle of embarrassing stories landing with a thud.
It'll be like water dripping on a stone and gradually wearing it away; slow, steady, inexorable.
How much humiliation will johnson take before he says...I'm off?
He knows the knives are being sharpened.
I expect him not to walk away but to cling on desperately
Mr sparkle, undoubtedly there is more to come but this is being managed to cause maximum discomfort to johnson.
Don’t expect a massive bundle of embarrassing stories landing with a thud
Oh yes, I appreciate that. It’s just that they seem to usually arrive at weekend.
There was a tory MP quoted after the by election loss saying that Johnson was 'on notice' and that 'every day had to be better than the last'
Its been 3 days and there's been a disaster every day
I do wonder if anyone will want the job right now tbh, it's such a poisoned chalice:
covid
Brexit
Inflation & cost of living crisis....
I2 years b4 an election means their initial popularity bounce could well have faded
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1472625426627543042?t=i2vkvXt8gQa3jzeA_6nu5w&s=19
Smart move, the Tories needing a brexit secretary when they'd 'got brexit done' was always going to a problem going into the next election
What it means for her leadership plans though?
I do wonder if anyone will want the job right now tbh, it’s such a poisoned chalice:
covid
Brexit
Inflation & cost of living crisis….
The funny thing is that no matter how bad things are (and things have to be pretty bad to have reached the point of a leadership challenge in the first place), there never seems to be a shortage of willing candidates who all seem to assume that they have some magical power to sort everything out.
Not sure if politics in general just seems to reward those who haven't really had to fight that hard to get where they are and therefore assume that they got there by being some kind of genius (as opposed to having the right parents and connections via Eton)? It does seem to find those who think they're amazing and there's enough institutionalised corruption that people can sort of fail upwards - I guess the idea is to promote people to a point where they can be left harmlessly in charge of a desk somewhere while the minions who actually know what to do get on and do it. Shame it never seems to work out that way. I think that most of life goes on in spite of Government rather than because of it...
Sweet baby Jesus and the wee donkey, it’s Liz Truss!!
So just as frosty was showing signs of thawing we get Truss. Either she hands out 69 more fishing licences pronto or she be the one dealing with the first sanctions.
The EU must be quaking in their boots
As for her leadership aspirations - IMO this is to nobble her - she will not come out of this looking good to anyone.
IMO this is to nobble her – she will not come out of this looking good to anyone
That was my first thought, too, TJ
Agree too on TJ’s observation but why on earth would she agree?! Is she that deluded? Beggars belief. God, I despise Brexit.
we are in safe hands
https://twitter.com/bmay/status/1435891877174300675
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1472634381147721750
why on earth would she agree?! Is she that deluded?
deluded is my guess. thinks she will sort it all out in a year and be back as the hero next year to take over the leadership.
So while she's sorting out our relationship with the EU who's going to continue her fantastic work putting together amazing trade deals with non-EU partners?
Bit disappointed that these have t appeared as yet.
You just had to be patient
Been out today in the fog for a lovely walk with OH...
Get back and look on BBC website...
Lis Truss, Liz Truss! Haha haha!!
Will be fantastic entertainment as we go down the plug hole!
Liz Truss, off to talk to the EU.
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There will be no surrender!
Oh, you want how many fishing licences? OK then. Can we interest you in some British cheese? No?
Northern Ireland? Where's that? Do we sell pork to them?
As an ex remainer Truss will have to be more brexity than ever to keep the ERG on sidd
We might even get another by-election at this rate - https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-mp-jamie-wallis-involved-in-accident-and-assisting-police-with-their-inquiries-12499799
https://news.sky.com/story/conservative-mp-jamie-wallis-involved-in-accident-and-assisting-police-with-their-inquiries-12499799
How ironic that while there's a total car crash going on inside No. 10, there's an actual one involving another Tory MP!
Won't be a by-election. He'll admit some sort of error of judgement made under extreme pressure, get some points on his licence and perhaps a driver awareness course or similar.
Why didn't they specify 'unfit'? What's the odds they don't pursue any 'historic' enquiries with suet in a suit, the Bridgend Blimp?
Like he wasn't sloshed at 1am on a Sat night/Sunday morning...
In the interest of balance, do any clips exist of Liz Truss NOT looking like an idiot? I've had a look but couldn't find any.
Could be a case of allocating multiple areas of blame to an ex remainer...
Those truss clips above are hilarious and excruciating. The pork markets one is so bizarre it makes me wonder if she's an alien disguised as a human.
The pork markets one is so bizarre it makes me wonder if she’s an alien disguised as a human.
Oh my word, I never realised how bad it was with the sound on, at least Michael Spicer did a Room Next Door clip of it.
Is it an advent of Covid breaches? What’s behind door 24?
Those truss clips above are hilarious and excruciating.
Remember that once, not that long ago, the UK was regarded as quite a big player on the world stage. OK, there are quite a few black marks against the place, not least the historic colonialism and slavery stuff but in the current day and age it was generally seen as a fairly positive sort of place.
The EU got a bit frustrated with the crop of MEPs that we kept delivering to them of course but we more or less pulled our weight and behind the scenes were fairly sensible other than the odd bit of reactionary bollocks from a third rate journo about Barmy Brussels Bureaucrats.
Now...
Every member of the EU must fall off their chair laughing once our "negotiators" leave the room. I bet the EU conferences and dinners must just be filled with "how the actual **** did we ever let them in?" conversations as the next bit of crass stupidity and ineptitude is revealed.
We're at Trump levels of "just when you think it can't possibly get any worse" the bar gets dramatically lowered again.
the cowardly ****
Not even turning up to Cobra? He can get ****ed at this stage, and this to me seems like the behaviour of a man who has given up even pretending to be PM.
what's the betting he was too pissed to attend even remotely.
That pic in the garden was just over a month after he’d been discharged from hospital, having spend three nights in intensive care with COVID.
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Not even turning up to Cobra?
He's been not turning up to Cobra since the start of all this. Right when the story of Covid was breaking, right at the point when we, one of the nations rated best prepared to cope with a pandemic, could have acted to save to save 10s or thousands of lives.... Boris was just not turning up.
The only reason thats not a scandal that would result in him losing his priminstership is that it was entirely apparent that he was both lazy and a coward long before he got the job. If, on the campaign trail he'll hide in a fridge to avoid a question he's not going to suddenly grow some balls when faced with a real challenge
He's the coward that cowards voted for.
kimbers
Free Member
dither & delay
Can't be arsed to turn up to a cobra meeting, like the start of the pandemic?
Blood on that f****** hands!
https://twitter.com/chessmartinez/status/1472678521126461447?s=21
So Liz is now in charge of Brexit negotiations?
I wonder what odds I’ll get on her inadvertently signing over Northern Ireland to France before new year?
I go to wrong sort of work meetings. Need more wine, less laptops and notepads.
The huge downside to this that as his authority has melted away it's emboldened the loons. He now can't implement sensible and proportionate public health measures in the face of a looming and near inevitable disaster. More people will die because of this internal tory feud.
He has cabinet members and prominent other tories still trotting out the old binary choice between the economy and lockdown. The sort of people who froth at unelected so-called experts but then get a semi about old Frosty. How exactly they expect society and the economy to function with a rampant deadly respiratory pandemic running wild is anyone's guess. Foreign travel will be shutdown for one by other countries. Responsible businesses and organisations will take measures to protect staff and customers. Also folk dying waiting for ambulances and in hospital car parks will tend to dampen down the publics mood for Wetherspoons lunches. Not to mention they societal cost of all the death and long term care for those who will be injured by their infection.
Arghh. It's genuinely maddening that we're run by such a bunch of craven, idiotic and self absorbed tories.
Whilst I'm not condoning those pics of the No10 garden party, I'm not as shocked as I expected to be without more details.
I bet plenty of teams in other organisations who were working together at that point in the pandemic stopped, grabbed a coffee and a tin of Quality Street, ordered in pizzas, cheese and wine whatever, and adopted a similar position. I'm not necessarily seeing a "party". They're even relatively spaced out.
Shouldn't have happened, should have set an example, shouldn’t have given photo op, and hugely undermines the current restrictions.
Do many organisations buy in wine for their staff to drink at work? I'd be on a disciplinary for drinking at work
How many organisations have a tax payer subsidised pub at work and allow their staff to work pissed?
Do many organisations buy in wine for their staff to drink at work? I’d be on a disciplinary for drinking at work
Years ago I worked on firing ranges with explosives, as well as the canteen being open at lunchtime so was the bar!
I'm guessing booze is embedded in the culture of government. Being allowed to drink booze on work time in the public sector I suspect is only permitted towards the very top. It's certainly not acceptable in my department.