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British jobs for British workers.
I think it was Gordon Brown who said that.
It’s all a bit “National Socialist British Workers’ Party”, no?
Well I don't agree but it is certainly an opinion that you share with dannyh, including Nazis references such as Adolf and swastikas.
He hasn't been around for a few weeks but who knows perhaps he will pop back.
Like you he also liked the "ironic" use of quotation marks, so I think you'll like his style too. If he decides to come back.
That. Is. A. Disgrace.
That’s the one!
I mean. That’s. The. One.
Did you ever see his posts gardentiger or did you join after he left?
🤔
This lot love waving flags and slagging off immigrants but when it comes to actions they’ve the same priorities as the old school establishment Tory’s. The money all goes to the same old places. Dished out to the same old people. They couldn’t care less about the rest. They’ve pretty much stopped even pretending they do
Apart from saddling 'business' with lots of unnecessary cost by limiting their pool of labour? Thatcher and her ilk used to lionise the mythical 'business' and have thrusting entrepreneurs around to No 10 all the time. Even if some turned out to be crooks.
Also screwing over exporters by alienating their closest markets?
Agreed about HS2, by the same token.
Whatever, though, in the 1930s the markets didn't react within a millisecond to every pathetic bit of insularity like they do now, so inflation will be the end of this lot. They'll try to paint the Bank of England as another bunch of elitists if they raise interest rates, but they'll have to. In this day and age, you literally cannot win by alienating (relatively) stable and sensible trading blocs like the EU and trying to use a kind of 'Protectionism for Toddlers' policy. (The use of quotation marks is not intended to be ironic, it is trying to show that it is a made-up phrase I am using for brevity.)
How long it takes for this to sink in with the electorate is anybody's guess, but however long it is, it cannot change that central truth above.
<Shrugs shoulders and turns palms upward>
singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/boris-johnson-2/page/162/#post-12147708
This sort of attitude has got us to where we are now FFS
Sorry gardentiger you didn't clarify, does your reference to "British jobs for British workers" as evidence of National Socialism mean that Gordon Brown was also some kind of National Socialist?
In any case, I have no desire to end up in a self-sustaining loop of saying the same thing over and over with slightly different words.
The fact is that the UK has landed itself in a stupid situation with irreconcilable contradictions and hypocrisy all over the place.
I continue to view the piece by piece unravelling of this nonsense with a mixture of bemusement, amusement and dismay. The fact is that our little collective moment of national tantrum is going to disintegrate bit by bit when confronted by reality.
Will it take a brave politician to say "this is stupid, let's face it and start to repair the damage"?
Or will it have to be done inch by inch by stealth as is currently the case (big nationalist words in public, craven capitulation behind the scenes)?
But whatever the means and timescale, the UK will be forced to confront its true status in the end. The everyday brexiteers will be humiliated and poorer, the rest of us will just be poorer. A few rich Brexiteers will be even richer.
That is the bottom line. No amount of bitching on the Internet can change it. It is amusing byplay watching people tie themselves in knots trying to talk away the inevitable, but it is ultimately just that - byplay based on parlour talk.
The everyday brexiteer has already lost. The goals have been taken down, the stumps have been drawn, the clubhouse is shut. But still they carry on, playing like their lives depend on it. Amusing and tragic in equal measure.
It is amusing byplay watching people tie themselves in knots
That sounds a bit cruel.
Good job he was assured there was no party
https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/status/1469788795813998595
What's funny is that Johnsons (and the governments) official line is that he's not aware of any party
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1469790405449424903?t=GA6NBlWpEQ-qdaOI8c4sLg&s=19
Sun has their own story
Met police in the mud as they knew
https://twitter.com/BexBitchley/status/1469795436466692099?t=ZBJ8zwGwv2dJ21cIh9jr5A&s=19
Looks like the Australian has come out to ****.
Pictures, the first of many I would think.
Squeaky bum time for some MP's out there tonight.
Just in time for the by-election.
What an utter tragedy of a human being Boris is.
the trapdoor is slowly opening...
Next week will be fascinating in a gory, voyeuristic sort of way.
This is like watching Rome burn but knowing you and everyone you care about live there.
Personally I can't wait for politics to go back to being boring though.
All blown out of proportion by the vengeful beeb
that mirror pic looks like a still from a video....
That sounds a bit cruel.
I'm not the one doing the tying...?
🤷♂️
I thought "imagine the uproar if it'd been the BBC that'd broken this story". But it turns out it's the same even if the BBC are just following
Anyone who has either photos or vids from any of the multiple gatherings has only two possible options:
i) I won't share it but what's my reward?
ii) Selling to the highest bidder
There is the vanishingly small possibility that anyone in possession of said photos or vids will suppress/delete them; having seen how johnson's sycophants behave, that won't happen.
It's like a dripping tap wearing away the stone - slowly, steadily, inexorably.
Joyful.
All blown out of proportion by the vengeful beeb
I had a look at the sunday hate comment section to see how that story went down with the readers. Wasnt really in his favour with the most favoured ones going for the "dont shoot the messenger" line or "shoot the messenger because its the beeb but keep some ammo back for johnson".
You know what, even the usual beeb haters are unlikely to fall for this one.
The story is everywhere, everywhere.
Boris is usually pretty good at deflection but this comes across as desperate.
Anyone actually know what the Mail are saying in regards to the claim though?
That will be interesting.
No 10 confirms PM Boris Johnson took part in No 10 Christmas quiz last year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59625432
Blimey, actual pictorial evidence is hard to deny it seems.😉
He's claiming it was a virtual quiz. Now even slithy Gove is implying he's a soak:
'Michael Gove said he was confident MPs would examine proposals for new restrictions “seriously, soberly and thoughtfully” in light of the way Omicron had been spreading across the UK.'
Nah, they’re a nationalist party.
A nationalistic party (very few parties are really one thing) would've closed their borders in a drop of a hat at the beginning of the pandemic.
Blimey, actual pictorial evidence is hard to deny it seems
Unless he goes full Trump
- I have this picture of you to prove it
- Nope, I wasn't there
- But you are in this picture
- Nope that is not me, I wasn't there
- But this picture
- Nope, next question
The headbangers are out defending the indefensible today. This from Simon Clarke. Basically it's all very unfair, brexit, he's doing his best, Corbyn, brexit. Desperate stuff.
There’s been a lot of unfair criticism of the Prime Minister this week. I just want to remind everyone what Boris Johnson has delivered for our area and our country:
🇬🇧 He delivered #Brexit when nobody else could have or would have, sticking relentlessly to his guns and braving a Parliament determined to stop him.
👴 He defeated Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party (including Sir Keir Starmer, who was at the heart of the whole attempt to stop Brexit and install an unreconstructed hardline socialist in No 10).
🌎 He introduced an Australian-style points based system for legal migration, ending EU free movement. We face major challenges with illegal migration this winter (like EVERY developed country in the world today) but literally this week we passed our new Borders legislation which will help crack down on this, and lots of work is underway on other solutions.
🦠 He has helped us to steer through the appalling challenges of Covid, delivering a world-leading vaccine programme, surviving a near-death experience himself and showing the political courage to bring us out of lockdown this summer when Labour would have kept us in. In the face of a major new threat from Omicron (and believe me - it *is* a really serious problem), we are fighting to get a booster jab in arms quickly enough to avoid a major crisis.
🏗 He is delivering the Levelling Up agenda. From our new Freeport to the hundreds of millions given to Ben Houchen - Tees Valley Mayor to drive change on Teesside, Boris is backing our area (and the wider North and Midlands) in a way no PM in history has done before, unlocking jobs and opportunity.
I am very proud to be a member of Boris’ Government and am fiercely determined to keep delivering for a man I know from personal experience to be hugely decent, kind, hard-working and patriotic.
So it turns out Johnson is a lying, amoral, selfish narcissist who thinks rules are for the little people - well I never. Cue lots of newspaper articles and Tory MPs claiming they never realised this all along or that it's somehow a recent development. 🤢
I thought “imagine the uproar if it’d been the BBC that’d broken this story”. But it turns out it’s the same even if the BBC are just following
BBC News is the default TV news here, partly as I'm lazy, and despite that Mail headline, they have led with Omicron and the call to get boosters pretty much every bulletin this week. Unlike, er, the Mail.
Can a news organisation report another news organisation?
That photograph... Check out what appears to be a bin bag covering up a CCTV camera in the office.
I am very proud to be a member of Boris’ Government and am fiercely determined to keep delivering for a man I know from personal experience to be hugely decent, kind, hard-working and patriotic.
True patriot:-), I don’t think i’ve ever actually heard anyone I know use the word ‘patriotic’ to describe someone in a sentence.
I really must move in the wrong circles.
bin bag covering up a CCTV camera
Beat me to it. Probably after Matty got caught, they thought it best to cover it up not realising its on a recordable video call!
Hmmm do ya reckon they’ll be steaming the wallpaper off to take with them or to put on eBay 🙂
patriotism the last refuge of a scoundrel
Samuel Johnson
Has Clarke heard of the Gini coefficient or Lorenz curve? Nope, thought not. He's ignorant, lying, or both.
Clarke must have been at one of the parties then!
It’s like a dripping tap wearing away the stone – slowly, steadily, inexorably.
Joyful.
‘Joyful’, that is, until they install the next psycho-clown-in-chief (Or does it effectively install itself these days?)
Imagine for instance/one moment, say, Gove in there? ¿jajaja?
It begs the question, where are the (effective or actual) opposition during what should be the biggest open goal of our lifetimes? Surely this situation is at least a few lorry-loads of slush more contentious Callaghan’s ‘Winter of Discontent’?
bin bag covering up a CCTV camera
Its not a bin bag, it's a curtain, you can see it on other pics
They wouldn't bother covering up anything, they believe themselves so above the rules they just don't worry about that stuff
Beat me to it. Probably after Matty got caught, they thought it best to cover it up not realising its on a recordable video call!
It’s really a subtle but powerful damning indication of these people,knowingly attempting to circumvent the security systems as you don’t want your activities on the record as you know what your doing is likely to be perceived as ‘wrong’. (BinbagGate)
Covid profit and parties all round for some, fines and restrictions for the rest 🙂
Nothing like a true disaster to bring out the true colours of people.
Samuel Johnson
Did like him in pulp fiction 🙂
Does he watch and listen to a different BBC? The booster programme has been on very episode of every current affairs or news programme I’ve seen or heard this week.
I sure wouldn't like to be a copper trying to enforce any stricter covid restrictions that may be necessary....
Realise this is minor fluff but, I still can't get over someone thinking it was a good idea to spend £200k on a flat refurb with two children under 2 years on the premises...I'm pretty much in the same boat and am contemplating taking the handles off all the kitchen cabinets! I'm mostly happy that only some of the furniture I've had for years does not have sick on it - never mind the £3500 antique-a-like chaise longue,
But then if it's someone else's money...
If there is no more major revelations I reckon Boris can hang on till the summer. He will need a good performance at the local elections. I think the looming crisis in Ukraine could also be a particularly tricky problem for Boris. (It's likely to be a big problem for many of us in the shape of Putins control of gas supply)
Putins control of gas supply
Luckily we're part of a large international bloc with some influence.
Oh, hang on...
If anyone is interested there was a programme on 4 Extra overnight covering JB Priestley and his postscript programmes at the start of WWII after the evening news on the Home Service. It shows that it's very much a case of "Plus ça change. . ." with the Conservative party. There's a hint that his socialist, northern sense of fair play annoyed Churchill enough to have him removed for the airwaves.
EDIT It was Archive on 4 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b00sf0tg
Imagine for instance/one moment, say, Gove in there?
I think that Gove is is Brexity-****, but I also think that he’d be a lot more competent than Johnson, Raab, or Patel. Sunak is a one-trick pony and is surfing on a brief wave of popularity after furlough payments.
Fundamentally though, why is this latest balls-up any less likely to bounce off him than the countless previous ones?
Anyone just catch the clip on the BBC lunchtime news of the Scottish tory leader, (Douglas Ross) being unable to name one good quality that Johnson has? 🤣
as excited as everyone is getting over this, I don't think this'll be the end of boris. the knifes may be being sharpened but I think its a poison chalice no one has the appetite to take on until its clearer how omicron is going to pan out.
it's a funny one, even though it's a poison chalice leaving Johnson in charge may damage the party and some very ambitious people may think they may not get a better chance. Though he has surrounded himself with a cabinet more spineless than himself and the one wielding the knife rarely gets the crown.
Lord Voldemort
i prefer nosferatu
When Vald the Emailer sets fire to his front porch, BJ is not the person you want in charge.
The 1922 et al know this and seeing how the build up is continuing (Buks being moved West, I read), they will want the pissed-up, lying fool out of the way.
I reckon he might be gone by Jan 1st and a very rapid replacement anointed within a week.
Fundamentally though, why is this latest balls-up any less likely to bounce off him than the countless previous ones?
I very much agree with the sentiments behind that although I think there are reasons why this balls up could be different.
The problem for Johnson is that he has no firm solid support among the various wings of the party as a consequence of wanting to be loved by everyone and trying to keep everyone happy. He has described seeing himself, despite the obvious contradiction, as a "Brexity Hezza".
I have no doubt that the Nationality and Borders Bill, which is a completely pointless exercise, is an attempt to keep the Thatcherite wing of the party and Daily Mail columnists happy whilst he pursues interventionist Nation Tory policies.
The problem of course with trying to keep everyone happy is that it leaves no one very happy. Which wasn't a problem for Johnson when he was seen as a vote winner. If however that changes and the Tories start losing safe seats then it is a whole new ball game.
Without a solid and loyal base Johnson is particularly vulnerable to "circumstances".
some very ambitious people may think they may not get a better chance.
Yup, I wouldn't underestimate how ambitious Liz Truss is, probably more so than Johnson himself. To give an example in 1994 Truss was on left of Liberal Democrats criticising the party leadership :
Elizabeth Truss of Oxford University turned on a statement by Paddy Ashdown that everybody in Britain should 'have the chance to be somebody'. But, she said, 'only one family can provide the head of state. We Liberal Democrats believe in opportunity for all. We believe in fairness and commonsense . . . we do not believe people are born to rule'.
Two years later Truss had joined the Tories and was comfortable on the right-wing of a party whose hiarchey believe were born to rule. No one changes their core beliefs so dramatically in just a few months.
And for those who dismiss Truss as a threat because she is apparently a ridiculous fool who can't be taken seriously, as I've seen some do, do they believe that Johnson won elections because he wasn't burden by such handicaps?
I’ve just stuck a fiver on sock-puppet Truss at 4.5/1 as next Tory party leader. Rishi is favourite at 3/1, Gove next at 7/1, Hunt at 11/1 and, somewhat bizarrely; Oliver Dowden at 15/1
Actually; that last one is just the type of thing the Tory party would do. Might stick a few quid on that odd outcome
Johnson is particularly vulnerable to “circumstances” entirely of his own making.
Agree that Truss is one of those politicians that you can always find an apposite opposite quote from to show she is an opportunistic apostate.
I mean, considering her current and previous ministerial roles involved trying (and failing) to strike post Brexit trade deals that are more beneficial to us than the ones we had as EU members…
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/745339549132464128?s=20
Slippery. Just like Johnson. She could well slide to the very top.
Slippery. Just like Johnson. She could well slide to the very top.
More slippery than Johnson imo. Although he is undoubtedly an opportunitist who checks which way the wind is blowing she makes him look an amateur in comparison.
When Johnson was first Mayor, he was strongly in favour of everything he had to renounce and campaign against to become PM. I wouldn’t underestimate or play down his own volte-face to further his rise to be PM.
Remember the amnesty for immigrants?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/nov/21/boris-immigration
And Heathrow?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/dec/16/boris-johnson-heathrow
he is undoubtedly an opportunitist who checks which way the wind is blowing
Yes he is. Not sure Truss makes him “look like an amateur” though, no one has been more politically successful as an opportunist than him. If she makes it to be PM, with a few more switcheroos along the way, at that point I’ll be able to agree with you. She more of an understudy than a lead at this point though [ avoids Star Wars references ]. You are right that no one should rule her out as a future Conservative Party leader. More slippery than Johnson? You may be proved right there…
Whilst Johnson is undoubtedly guilty of political somersaults I wouldn't call opposition or not to a third runway as a core belief.
Truss changed her entire political ideology over a matter of months. People can and do change their ideology but it is generally slowly in stages over a period of time, unless they lack sincerity. Truss went from leftie Liberal Democrat star of party conference to Thatcherite Tory within a couple of years.
Still, I'm not much bothered who wins the greatest opportunitist competition I was simply pointing out that how ambitious Truss is shouldn't be underestimated. IMO
Surprise surprise - Johnson's 'address to the nation' scheduled for 20.00 tonight will be pre-recorded.
I suppose at least it means he can't be late for it though.
Or fluff it… “forgive me, forgive me, forgive me”.
Surprise surprise – Johnson’s ‘address to the nation’ scheduled for 20.00 tonight will be pre-recorded
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He really is a shithouse, isn’t he?
Let’s do it so that nobody can ask me any awkward questions
He really is a shithouse, isn’t he?
Yep. And the rest of the world sees him as the public face of 'us'.
It boils my piss.
I'm not usually a John Harris fan - he's too much on the side of "oh bless, you voted for a xenophobic far right government because no one listens to you", but....
This is spot on. Contempt and disdain. The only thing that makes me feel slightly better is that the people he holds in most contempt are his supporters.
Surprise surprise – Johnson’s ‘address to the nation’ scheduled for 20.00 tonight will be pre-recorded.
It meant he only looked half-pissed instead of utterly bladdered.
'This is an emergency...tidal wave of Omicron..'
But you can still go to a packed pub.
It's one thing trying to terrify the public into trying to get boosted, whether the NHS is in any position to deliver the quantity of jabs 'our way of life' depends on is another matter. His entreaties to NHS staff to redouble their efforts suggests to me it isn't, at least not without stopping equally vital services.
whether the NHS is in any position to deliver the quantity of jabs ‘our way of life’ depends on is another matter. His entreaties to NHS staff to redouble their efforts suggests to me it isn’t, at least not without stopping equally vital services.
It was a bit vague but he did claim that :
We will also assist this emergency operation by
deploying 42 military planning teams across every region,
standing up additional vaccine sites and mobile units,
extending opening hours so clinics are open 7 days a week, with more appointments early in the morning, in the evening, and at weekends,
and training thousands more volunteer vaccinators.
And we’ll set out further steps in the days ahead.
I have no idea what the "military planning teams" involves but does sound impressive. Likewise thousands more vaccinators is a bit vague.
He did say that some NHS services will be affected but suggested that if they weren't now then next year they would likely be even more affected. Which sounds at least plausible.
it will mean some other appointments will need to be postponed until the New Year.
But if we don’t do this now, the wave of Omicron could be so big that cancellations and disruptions, like the loss of cancer appointments, would be even greater next year.
I suspect that he has every interest in making this booster campaign a significant success as it might well save his political skin. For a while.
Doesn’t this all rather depend on him being able to get any of this past his own unhinged libertarian ****-tard backbenchers on Wednesday?
Sounds impressive, until you remember that this new 'target' is to get every adult in the UK done in the next 19 days (including a couple of significant public holidays).
Does anyone think that throwing in 42 new 'military planning teams' into the NHS effort will do much aside from generate chaos? How long does it take to train a vaccinator?
I'm fully behind anything that will enhance the booster campaign, but throwing the kitchen sink at it like this sounds like, as you say, desperate skin-saving efforts rather than something that will actually help.
Doesn’t this all rather depend on him being able to get any of this past his own unhinged libertarian ****-tard backbenchers on Wednesday?
Well he did say that as well. Although he didn't quite put it like that.
NHS is in any position to deliver the quantity of jabs ‘our way of life’ depends on is another matter.
That is the main problem, my wife is on a temp contract which ends in March. Contracted to do 7.5hrs a week .New contract after march says she has to commit to 15hrs a week she also works P/T as a midwife 22.5 hrs a week. Its been hard enough for the vaccine roster people to understand that her main job takes priority over her work hrs, they've had her doing a full shift before her nights or after her nights. Mangers at vaccine centre now say they are not entitled to a break in afternoon as it is not mandatory. Sorry but if you continually speaking and going through the same thing over and over again, mentally you need a break. She and many others will not be renewing her contract in March, many others have also handed in their notice, due to the general attitude of management of treating the whole task as a sausage factory production line.
Doesn’t this all rather depend on him being able to get any of this past his own unhinged libertarian ****-tard backbenchers on Wednesday?
not really - Labour will vote for it. So he'll have a decent sized tory rebellion, but it will still pass.
Well the Daily Express clearly isn't going to ease up until Liz Truss is installed as party leader:
Daily Express: 'Comb your b***** hair!' Boris brutally mocked while delivering vital booster jab speech.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1535152/boris-johnson-booster-vaccines-press-conference-coronavirus-vn
Presumably they have never noticed Johnson's hair before which why it eclipsed any news concerning omicron and the new booster targets.
He did look even worse than normal though, didn’t he?
And despite being pre-recorded, he still couldn’t even read from the autocue. Why doesn’t he just take the rest of the parliamentary session off, to recuperate and sort his life out.
Well the Daily Express
Opening the Daily Express website can cause premature hair loss and cancer. Or a barbecue summer, or something.