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There were two spoiled ballots in this morning's vote. Presumably MPs who can't face voting for any of the fantasists on offer.
I’d imagine that most of them are voting to save their own skin because the 1922 and whips will know who is voting for whom.
Or voting with an eye on a place in the Johnson cabinet.
There were two spoiled ballots in this morning’s vote. Presumably MPs who can’t face voting for any of the fantasists on offer.
Rory Stewart throwing a massive benny?
If the same number of people vote each time but the number of candidates reduces, then surely the likelihood is that votes for the remaining candidates will go up?
Maybe - but the way it works in my head is he's the favourite. If I was voting & wanted him to lead the party then I would do so since round 1.
If I didn't want him in then I would vote for someone else, that person gets eliminated & would vote for someone else who isn't BJ, & so on... That's just the way I have been thinking about it.
Rory Stewart throwing a massive benny?
And A N Other...
Don't under-estimate the sheer low animal cunning of Tory MPs. There's every chance Boris will try and engineer the final vote to make sure he faces Hunt rather than Gove by 'lending' votes to Hunt. Of course he then runs the risk of the whole thing leaking which will make him look even more ghastly then he already appears, but hey, Tory leadership battles, you lie or you die.
tomhoward
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Yep. Leave.eu have been encouraging it’s supporters to do just that since it became apparent that May wasn’t just going to walk us off the cliff, to ensure a hard brexiter gets the top job, when she was ousted.
Yup. Tory membership has soared over the last year, and it's not going to be because loads of people were so impressed by how well they were doing. There were 124000 in 2018, now there's 160000. Considering the standing trends in their membership, their terrible performance, and their aging demographic it seems pretty fair to assume that without this entryism their membership would be falling, not rising, but at the very least, 25% of their members result from the last year's entryism. Likely closer to 33%, but 25% without a doubt.
Mysteriously, the tory dominated press don't seem to be talking about this. And yet everyone's still banging on about Labour £3 voters, who made no difference to the actual outcome of that election.
Of course, it's entirely possible that Johnson will sweep the board and that all of these attempts to subvert the party process will be meaningless anyway, and that these extra 25% of hard right *s will be made irrelevant by the fact that most of the other 75% were already *s.
most of the other 75% were already ****s.
I've just listened to a **** called "keith" regurgitate his stomach contents on LBC, an ageing golf playing tory voter all his life who relishes the fact that Boris will deliver us a hard brexit.
If you happen to see Keith playing golf then please grab his driver and dispatch him...doesn't have to be a humane quick dispatch either, perhaps just wing him to start with then let nature take it's course.
Gove suffers the consequences of a spelling mistake in the analysis report that said he was a shoe in to win a pobularity contest.
25 years ago, this was wild satire, totally excessive, yet it could be Johnson any time in the last 2 years.
Alan B'stard
I always believed that if people like this became electable there would be a groundswell of public opinion against them.
Sadly, we're witnessing the final act of Thatcher's great experiment - it's the democratic equivalent of rioters destroying their own homes, LA writ large.
Appealing to baser instincts is so much easier than appealing to the finer aspects of human nature.
There truly is no such thing as society anymore.
Less than 80 years since the last time, we never learn.
Standing by is not an option.
It's time to pick sides and do whatever is necessary to oppose this.
f you happen to see Keith playing golf then please grab his driver and dispatch him
Its not his fault you listen to LBC 🙂
BadlyWiredDog
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There were two spoiled ballots in this morning’s vote. Presumably MPs who can’t face voting for any of the fantasists on offer.
I read that as "soiled"
Just dawned on me this morning we have the choice of a Johnson or a Hunt for next pm. Now all we need is an A. Hole and we have the full set.
NSFW:
Oh Boris, you lovable rouge.....
I’d imagine that if he’s been ‘knockin’ er abaaart a bit’ (as seems to be the implication) then the rich, white, old, male Tory party members will probably just shrug and assume ‘she was probably asking for it’ and vote for him anyway
The real shit hasn't even hit the fan yet… and even when it does, it won't stop him becoming PM, his supporters don't care. Hopefullly the voters will.
Regarding the police being called to his house last night, my concern is why I can't see it reported elsewhere including the BBC....yet?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home/blockquote >Boris was always going to be the one who stopped Boris. 🙂
Boris was always going to be the one who stopped Boris. 🙂
Exactly, that's why his backers wont let him out unaccompanied. He has 16 public meetings to attend in the next 4 weeks, as well as a few media interviews, I really hope he messes up, or, I should say, acts in his normal way to show his true colours.
What’s most worrying about the Guardian report is that the police denied all knowledge of it until they were presented with the Guardian’s evidence
What’s that all about then?
my friend used to work with his brother
He was an entitled dick as well apparently
"Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211
What’s that all about then?
I think it would depend on exactly what is asked. Most police responses are generally deliberately vague along the lines of man aged x rather than going "yeah we nicked dissonance for being ugly".
Especially after the recent few screwups where people have proved inconveniently innocent after the press was let lose on them.
So it could be the cops being dubious or it could just be poor reporting eg did the police really only respond when given identifier numbers or did they just say after being given the crime number said "yes that is correct".
A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.
A Johnson premiership will at least be entertaining...
https://twitter.com/Robert___Harris/status/1142162495693578244?s=19
And yet still Labour will find a way to be nowhere...
You really couldn't make it up.....perhaps Mark Field was in the guest room.
In a statement, the Metropolitan Police said: "At 00:24 on Friday 21 June, police responded to a call from a local resident in the SE5 area of Camberwell.
"The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbour.
"Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action."
Regarding the police being called to his house last night, my concern is why I can’t see it reported elsewhere including the BBC….yet?
They have run the story now, but the BBC have been afraid to be front runners in any story, ever since they had their balls cut off following the David Kelly case and inquiry stitch up. That was also used to as en excuse to defund their news department, and is IMO one of the main reasons that the populists are now able to come out with such complete shit (in the UK) without being properly questioned and challenged in the media.
Regarding the police being called to his house last night, my concern is why I can’t see it reported elsewhere including the BBC….yet
My quote is from the BBC.
The police won't identify famous or individuals of importance unless absolutely required. Until then it's a speculative story which some news outlets will hold back on.
This has got to be intentional 😀
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The police won’t identify famous or individuals of importance unless absolutely required.
Of course they do, and they have many many times before, but just not the likes of Boris.
The Levenson inquest laid bare the cosy relationship between politicians, the police and the press, and how they abused power and privilege to distort truth, few if any of the recommended solutions were applied.
And a second, promised, enquiry was abandon by this government last year.
Of course they do, and they have many many times before, but just not the likes of Boris.
You didn’t read what I said did you.
I did, and I quoted it.
An example of how the BBC and police normally treat famous people.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43883849
I know a lot of people want to believe the myths of british institutions as bastions of correctness and probity, it reassures them to believe they are something special. But really they are not, they fail all the times and there weaknesses should be pointed out and corrected or they will never come even close to the myth.
I heard an amusing comparison the other day ..apologies if already posted.
"Being asked to vote for the new conservative leader is rather like being asked which type of dog shit you'd like to stand in"
Rather true no ?
You quoted and read but missed the bit where I said unless required. A better word maybe unless necessary. Police don’t always confirm names of anyone unless it reaches a certain point it helps avoid situations like Tommy R ranting outside courts or their media. Unfortunately some new reporters don’t care and will give out names they think are involved.
MSP
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An example of how the BBC and police normally treat famous people.
It's an example of how they did it once. Is it normal? Considering that they got taken to court over it and lost, probably not.
So Johnson wouldn't answer questions about last night's police visit at his hustings today, Tory journo Iain dale booed by the party faithful for pressing him on it.
Those crazy old giffers are going to elect him PM even though he's a disaster at every level!
Johnson is going be the next PM.
Unless he is literally caught on camera stabbing someone to death he will be PM.
Even then, if said victim is a forriner he would get away with it and still be elected.
From this article,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-by-those-who-know-him
a lovely quote from his Eton housemaster
“I think he honestly believes it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else.”
Johnson’s Eton housemaster, Martin Hammond, in 1982 school report
I believe he will be our next PM. I believe he will not serve the country well. I believe he will leave the role with an even greater appreciation of himself than he currently holds. FWLIW, I’ll be voting against him when the time comes!
Markie
FWLIW, I’ll be voting against him when the time comes!
Amen brother. You me and many others.👍
I believe he will not serve the country well.
He's got a pretty impossible job - keeping the party together while not completely shafting the economy over brexit and somehow gaining enough support to get a majority at the next GE. (actually that's not in his/tory priority order, but the point stands). Anyone who can deliver all 3 of those would be an incredible leader. Don't think that's Boris though. Or hunt. Shame eh.
Poetic though?
He is going to have to sort out a mess he played a big part in creating.
Obviously the terrible irony is that when it all goes wrong he can just walk away from it all with little impact to his life in any way... whilst others suffer huge impacts.
He is going to have to sort out a mess he played a big part in creating.
Is he? Or is he going to lead us off a cliff to the chants of the membership, lauding him as the brave man who actually did it, only to foxtrot oscar as the effects start to take hold, blaming everyone but himself?
On the plus side, he will have a lot more homeless people to set fire to £50 notes in front of.