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If Johnson create another party he loses a voc in the hoc and thus is no longer pm.
He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.
But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event… their PM is “undemocratically” ousted, and the campaign to return him to his throne begins. Just an idle thought yesterday, but it’s an option for him. The whole “that party” line when he was talking about the Conservatives wanting him to stand down had me thinking about it, that’s all. A new party could be a good grifting opportunity, and a way to build and show off his public support to the party that rejected him. A “you can’t win without me” ego trip.
"Time for them to grow some balls and tell us WHO is saying this stuff. This deniable briefing approach needs to end"
If they did that then Newsnight would be over in 10 minutes and Newscast would have no content at all.
This deniable briefing approach needs to end. Who said it. What is their role. Why should we listen to a word they say.
Yup it is poisonous. It was quite telling that Lord McDonald could have just given some pointers about the case to a friendly journalist but instead wrote the letter since he disagreed with this anonymous source approach and felt it should have his name clearly attached.
But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event…
That's not how it works though.
Tories are the majority party, their leader is PM. The PM can't change party and remain in office. It's not a presidential system, we don't (technically) elect a PM.
The PM can’t change party and remain in office.
That is the convention. There is a reason why I suggested he could do it “in his last week” as PM. He wouldn’t be “caretaker PM” for very long at all if he pulled that move. Everyone would be made aware of the new party name though, it would be a huge world event launching the party.
It's possible in a Trump-style desperate ladt throw of the dice but I think unlikely.
He can try it, but Sri Lanka is demonstrating the potential risk quite nicely
He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.
Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he's out by automatic operation of the constitution!
Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he’s out by automatic operation of the constitution!
You’ll have to point me to that bit of the constitution that happens “automatically”.
Yes its up to her maj, who will invite the new leader of the largest etc. to become her Prime Minister. It doesn't require Johnson to resign, but I am not sure if her maj needs to sack him or just appoint someone else. Maybe he has some fancy seal or something in his possession which he needs to hand over.
Yup, the Queen can appoint a new PM anytime, and then the current PM loses their position. That is supposed to occur after a PM resigns or is made unavailable, but if Johnson didn’t resign she could still act. Not a good look for anyone that though. In this fantasy new party scenario, which I wish I hadn’t openly pondered about now… Johnson could be PM under the banner of this new party ‘till he resigned or the Queen appointed a new PM. Would be big international news, and a big attention grabbing way to launch a new party. Would probably also result in people calling for a more formal constitution to be put in place, to protect the country/monarch from such embarrassment in future.
Sorry if already posted …
"everybody needs to shut up"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-62100209
https://twitter.com/ionewells/status/1545529262567989250?s=21
In this fantasy new party scenario, which I wish I hadn’t openly pondered about now
Dunno we really don’t know what’s going to play out, but it was weird what he said when he didn’t resign.
I don’t think he has to do it whilst In office, there is no election due until a few years so it can wait a while,whilst the poison chalice takes effect on the the replacement PM/Tory party.
Gives him a while to get the graphics done on the new bus.
I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes 🙂
Did we do this yet?
I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes
I'll be on his freebie holiday island at the end of the month.
Please tell me he won't be ruining my holiday.
I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes
Italian luxury castle shirley? 😉
Nah, he’s a lame duck now and an embarrassment to be seen with so he will be dead to Two Beards. He got his title in any case, so doesn’t need to be nice to Johnson any more.
Although the blackmail potential might still be useful.
Plenty of party kompromat from the Ledbeddedevevs I’m sure.
Both of these things are so on brand
https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1545825125810970626?t=FlYfhaE6IeTqkUeJLTDgdw&s=19
https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1545840334399307777?t=KTGuvAWqNIfP4Pyle8dJXw&s=19
We’ve missed an opportunity
Still time for the economy here to get us to that stage
Italian luxury castle shirley? 😉
You do know Evgeney Lebedev's dog is called Boris?
You do know Evgeney Lebedev’s dog is called Boris?
Lapdog?
Turns out that it's a pet wolf named after an alcoholic 😀 😀
The *real* reason he had to go…
https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1546546911859073024
He was going to stick it to the elites, but he very quickly got sucked in by the sort of globalist agenda, you know, he spent a lot of time sucking up to Macron and Merkel that he forgot he’s a Conservative.
He went very hard on lockdown, very hard on vaccines. He became woke and then he fully signed up to this Greta Thunberg idea of the world is ending…
…He fell in with that elite crowd and he was travelling the world. He did a lot of time trying to save Ukraine and all of these things…
…He even had the hair like Trump but it just didn’t come through in the end…
I’m sorry, what?
Rednecks gotta get conspiracy fuel from somewhere.
conspiracy fuel
Is my new name for moonshine.
I’m sorry, what?
Well to sum up, Boris Johnson failed because he became a leftie liberal and wasn't quite as handsome as Donald Trump.
Extraordinarily, Thomas Corbett-Dillon has since deleted his Twitter account (which ironically berated some other random for not knowing how to do social media).
They are so shameless aren't they? I don't know who that guy is (not gonna bother repeating his name) but he's just there to say the things morons want to hear. And Tucker f***ing Carlson with that stupid confused face.
That whole industry of selling nonsense to idiots is too damn successful.
No different to the Spectator or the Telegraph to be fair...
No different to the Spectator or the Telegraph to be fair…
At least when written one has to be sufficiently motivated to read. This shit is a mainline to empty heads.
Well, this is nice: https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-holding-farewell-party-at-grace-and-favour-country-estate-chequers-this-weekend-12653036
After all it was such a shame they had to cancel the wedding celebration...
And also allows him to avoid the tediousness of another COBRA meeting.
Looks like we are getting Baroness Mad Nad! How can resignation honours be a thing in 2022?
Out of office and still trolling the nation
After all it was such a shame they had to cancel the wedding celebration…
I'm away on holiday so missing my chance to pop over for one last heckle too 😡
And Tucker f***ing Carlson with that stupid confused face.
Tucker has the permanent expression of a man that tries to sneak one out but has realised he's followed through
He really is just trolling the nation now isn't he?
Outgoing PM, may as well have some taxpayer funded amusement before he goes.
And why the hell did that pilot not pull the ejection seat?!
"And why the hell did that pilot not pull the ejection seat?!"
Now that is a fundraising dinner I would have paid good money to attend
I'm genuinely surprised the oaf actually fit!!!
I hope the pilot pulled enough g to make the ****er pass out/throw up
He's always been at the dressing up box. Although it seems it's been most days I'm going for 30% premiership being Mr Johnson's jolly time.
I’m genuinely surprised the oaf actually fit!!!
Callsign 'Fatbastard' reporting for Mission Photo-Op
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More Russell Casse than Maverik...
Although drunker and with no moral integrity
I notice he was up in a Eurofighter. How come he didn’t go up in just the British bits?
He's gone full Trump
Odds on boris trying to stay in number 10 come September just got shorter.
So Mad Nad and Johnson got pissed up before PMQs and acted like boorish offshore? Well, like, yeah? We've had MPs having a dangerw*nk in the commons chamber. These yobs have no respect for truth, why would they have any for anything else?
This shit is a mainline to empty heads.
The mainline has a replacement bus service running...
offshore
Should have read as 'oafs', but it is a happy coincidence that auto correct used another key word behind Brexit.
We’ve had MPs having a dangerw*nk in the commons chamber.
Wait, what?
We’ve had MPs having a dangerw*nk in the commons chamber.
Wait, what?
AKA looking at tractors 😁
So, whilst there is a not inconsiderable chance that Dorries and Johnson might decide to do a line of chop and she rides him reverse cowgirl on the woolsack, behind the scenes (no surprise) the assault on our institutions (and checks and balances) continues apace.
Future Boris... assuming they can actually get the useless waste of space out of the prime ministerial flat.
What's he doing?
Quietly touring the talky talk circuit?
Full Trump 'they stole-d the elecshun' playing for the hard of thinking?
Going for the Lords?
Over to the States to do the right wing circuit there?
Over to the States to run for President?
Exit like Gadaffi?
Exit like Gadaffi?
I'm not sure I could wish a bayonet up the poo-chute even to the likes of Johnson.
I'd like to see him penniless and doing a sad after dinner speaking act just to pay for his booze and super injunctions. Carrie shacked up with Zac and Johnson utterly friendless shambling from gig to gig.
Of course, it won't happen. He is minted for life whatever transpires. The shameless bloody conman.
Yep, helped by having a pension of £80K per year as soon as he leaves office.
that'll barely cover the drinks tab.
Won't cover the raging Gak habit either.
Apparently Johnson aiming for editor of evening standard
Which is what I use to line our guinea pig hutch
Plenty of platform to spew conspiracy rubbish from.
I’m not sure I could wish a bayonet up the poo-chute even to the likes of Johnson.
I could.
Caught a news report that he finished PMQs with "hasta la vista" - he does seem to be chucking out hints/jokes that he doesn't think he's finished in politics yet, truly a Poundland Trump.
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Caught a news report that he finished PMQs with “hasta la vista” – he does seem to be chucking out hints/jokes that he doesn’t think he’s finished in politics yet, truly a Poundland Trump.
Got to love the Tory standing ovation... days after many of them were actively working on getting rid of him.
It's the Tory way. Brutal, hypocritical and Darwinian.
... And I'm only talking of how they treat the population there, not Johnson.
Best sign off ever. I reckon in 3 months time we'll be wishing he was back 😂
I reckon in 3 months time we’ll be wishing he was back
Possibly, possibly not.
The reason Boris was so difficult to attack is that he's a pure populist, he doesn't really have any opinions or strategies, other than 'play to the public', depending on which way the wind is blowing on a particular day, hence always having a certain ammount of support, regardless of which direction it may come from. It's just a numbers game to him.
Don't get me wrong, this is a very dark time for UK politics, we will end up with someone more right wing, but they won't be as laughable as good old boris, and will be easier to hang, given a bit of rope.
I'll be impressed with Boris if he does an Elvis style check-out on the loo
I’ll be impressed with Boris if he does an Elvis style check-out on the loo
It will never happen.
He'll Swan of to France or Germany, maybe the cotswolds on occasion, living from his tax haven accounts whilst also creaming in a bit of cash for 'after dinner speaches'.
He certainly won't be crying into his pillow with worry about how he's going to pay his gas bill!
I'm no fan of her's, but Theresa May's constant trolling of Johnson as been a thing of joy to behold over the last 3 years
Got to love the Tory standing ovation…
Did you see the clip of May refusing to applaud?
Best sign off ever.
A terminator 2 reference? well hopefully he'll be lowered slowly into a vat of molten metal and we can all get some peace
I reckon in 3 months time we’ll be wishing he was back 😂
I'm guessing your opinion of that comes from a poll of one
He'll be back as Truss' deputy! 😆
He'll be on Im a Celebrity and anything else he can pimp himself into.
I'm not joking by the way.
I can see him on Strictly dancing making ed balls look like Wayne sleep. Right now the bookers at HIGNFY and QI wouldn't touch him with a bargepole but easy to imagine an image rehabilitation in five years or so. As much as i hate to say it as I detest him
He'll want the perceived adoration from the public and show off his amazing comedy chops I mean 'captain crasheroonie snoozefest' was a bon mot for the ages. Just gets better with age
I cant see Hislop ever agreeing to be on HIGNFY with him again. I get the impression he hates that he helped boost his image with the previous shows.
I suspect he will be off on the private lecture circuit mostly getting a 100k or so for an hours talking at some bankers and their guests.
Something like I'm a celebrity would be far to much work.
Surely Lebdev will give him a job at the standard
GBNews or TalkTV would love to have him,
either way his Uxbridge seat is vulnerable, I could see him standing down there and either going somewhere safer (Essex somewhere?) or just getting himself in the Lords asap
either way his Uxbridge seat is vulnerable, I could see him standing down there and either going somewhere safer (Essex somewhere?) or just getting himself in the Lords asap
I would put my house on him not standing for a seat (any seat) at the next GE. Standing as an MP was only a vehicle for higher things for him. Now that has been and gone, why would he? He has no 'higher calling' to serve or a political passion.
If Truss gets it, he'll be a lord by new year. And then attend sparsely. I guess the only reason he would not become a lord would be if his future life was compromised by it in some way. If shit smeared bit of sleaziness would not stand judgement of standards in a public office charge.
An aside - why did Major never become a lord?
If Truss gets it, he’ll be a lord by new year.
Very doubtful given the borderline criminal activity whilst Prime Minister and security breaches with Russian Secret Services whilst Foreign Secretary.
The standards committee will nix it as he's "not a good chap".
either way his Uxbridge seat is vulnerable, I could see him standing down there and either going somewhere safer (Essex somewhere?)
Assuming they would let him transfer. I can see any new leader being happy with him being out of parliament and hence not helping him switch seats.
Plus as convert says I doubt he is interested much now.
An aside – why did Major never become a lord?
His choice, at least initially. He said he didnt want to become a lord immediately. Dunno if he has been asked since or its been forgotten about.
John Crace has got Ms Truss down as Radon Liz! It's quite inspired along with Ready4Rish!
Johnson regards himself as 'national treasure' material - whatever the hell that means. Most of our other supposed national treasures spent the 1960s closely associated with people who did knee capping, but were alright cuz they lavved their mam.
He'll lay low for a few years in some tax haven or other then appear in some reality show or other to boost his image.
Personally I'd like him dropped down a deep, dark hole and forgotten about.