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most recent publication the Sue Gray report
Obviously. And only this week denied even seeing it, never mind asking for changes. Lies and coverups. And when found out… new lies and new coverups. On and on it goes.
"Flood the zone with shit".
S. Bannon.
Pounds and ounces ffs. That sounds exactly like one of those fly by night ideas mentioned in that video above. Why doesn’t he build a fleet of wooden ships and invade France claiming it as ours while he’s at it.
We have an egotistical delusional imperialist narcissist running out country.
Because showing Gammons that petrol is £7,65 a gallon is really going to make them happy.
Next we will all be talking like in days of olde.
The imperial thing will cost a fortune for Local Authorities who have a duty to regulate and enforce weights and measures and will need to have two sets of equipment, one set made up of devices that do not currently exist.
The fact that we were never stopped from selling in lbs and ounces will be lost in the headlines. The EU rules only said that items must be advertised in metric measurements, they said nothing about not being allowed to show the imperial equivalent at the same time.
All those 454g jars of strawberry jam can finally be happy jars with their 1lb label, hoo fing ray.
Why doesn’t he build a fleet of wooden ships and invade France claiming it as ours while he’s at it.
I've said this a couple of times on this thread, ne needs to protect our expats in France from the murderous genocidal policies of Macron, and it used to be ours historically anyway. "France" is just a fake modern concept.
Presumably we're going back shillings, guineas and groats as well?
The whole idea is pretty much unworkable for various compliance and cost reasons, it's simply one last bugle call to the blue rinse Tories who still bake their cakes for the WI using the imperial edge of the kitchen scales.
Of more concern is what he's doing in the background while this debate is going on... Possibly rewriting more bits of ministerial code, increasing the number of No Confidence letters needed to trigger a vote, or changing the rules to say if you lose a VNC you can refuse to resign anyway...
You couldn't get better timing and a more significant visual representation of the way the wealthy treat the world than that super yatch sinking.
Got to wonder if the metric/imperial thing is about covering something up.
Got to wonder if the metric/imperial thing is about covering something up.
Brushing it under a few square [s]feet[/s] yards of carpet.
I'm not convinced Boris has an ounce of decency any more...
I'll get my weasel and stoat.
Got to wonder if the metric/imperial thing is about covering something up.
its simply to boost his core support of backward looking idiots
an interview with Rory Stewart describing the liar
Rory always seemed a decent sort, yes he was centre right and had tory ideologies, but he was brave enough to put his money where his mouth was and challenge Boris, and then resign and leave politics, not just skulk off to the back benches.
He does speak a lot of good stuff in that interview as well, his hatred of Boris is also clear to see! He makes a good point about Labour as well though, hopefully Starmer et al are listening in.
Got to wonder if the metric/imperial thing is about covering something up.
Well I have a feeling the Brexit benefits shelf was a little bare.
As previously stated they could always show the old weights and well pubs,it’s going to be great to be able order a pint again.
(Well apart from the artesian stuff that’s like buying liquid gold)
(Tbh I live in Spain ATM and they tend to ask me if I want a pint so I don’t really get it).
The kids will love being able to use pints and miles again instead of FOM.
But mainly done as previously stated for core support numpties.
Got to wonder if the metric/imperial thing is about covering something up.
It's a little gift to the supermarkets, even my lovely (weights and measures illiterate) wife has spotted various packaged food item getting smaller but prices either holding or increasing. Switching from grams to ounces is bound to confuzzle a few punters into acceptance...
When that 100g packet of something becomes 3oz rather than 3.5oz the shareholders and directors will be the one's laughing all the way (I might currently have some shares in a supermarket).
Either way yep it's one of several Dead cats intended to keep the tabloids from labelling Big Dog as 'Bunga-Boris' or 'Borisconi' because as we all know catchy one liners are the most powerful political weapon available today...
The imperial thing will cost a fortune for Local Authorities who have a duty to regulate and enforce weights and measures and will need to have two sets of equipment, one set made up of devices that do not currently exist.
Wasn't this floated before, until it was pointed out that there is nobody available to make the required calibrarions of scales etc?
It’ll be just like the bridge/tunnel to N/Ireland, Scotland/IOM, dropped as quickly as the bunting after the Queen Fest.
Or that new British standard logo. That the world was clamouring to adopt.
If I had 240 old pence every time this horseshit was announced i'd be a rich man
No one is going back to imperial
The imperial measurements thing is just more bullshit to appeal to idiots.
It's worked before (twice at least), so why stop now?
He'll keep his head down, wrap himself in a Union Jack for Queen Fest and get a free pass out of the other side.
Talking of Queen Fest, I wonder if that is where Carrie has been hiding away. Planning the use of millions of pounds of public money for some kind of 'try hard' lavish street party outside no 10. The kind that just looks tackier the more money is thrown at it - like her taste in interior deco.
Let them eat cake!
The imperial measurements thing is just more bullshit to appeal to idiots.
This.
Take this handy questionaire:...
Roadsigns are in?
TV screens are measured in?
Pints of beer are measured in?(hint, the clue is in the name)
Garden sheds and fence pannels are measured in?
Is it not to help exports to Europe?
great to be able order a pint again
I’ve never been in a pub in the UK that asked me to order half a litre.
Anyone who's ever tried following US baking instructions will understand the sheer and utter madness of the imperial system!
I thought the pint was originally a French unit of measurement
I wonder how many people who would support this in an on street voxpop would actually know the measurements they are clamouring for, how many oz's in a lb, lb's in a stone, chains in a mile etc
Bunga-Boris’ or ‘Borisconi’
Those need sharing across apical media, they may catch on...
I thought that most of us, over a certain age, worked in a "hybrid" system anyway?
When I look at food weights in the shops, I still look at 500g and think 1lb, 500ml, 1 pint.
I hate this government, it just gets worse and worse everyday.
I thought the pint was originally a French unit of measurement
Comes from a French word, don't tell the daily express!
We'd have to go with this I think:
Scottish pint or joug (obsolete)-2 pints and 19.69 imp fl oz
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Or are we, once again, making policy to placate racist pensioners in Eastbourne?
Yes, we all work with them every day. They never went away. The UK government started moving us towards a hybrid system where metric is always available alongside the quant old units, because the 1960s were about progress. It had nothing to do with later joining the EU. And glasses that held a pint if brimmed (so no head and having to drink from the glass before you could carry it) were done away with for good reason. Pint to line glasses never went away, and the EU never said we couldn’t use the crown symbol on them. This is all utter bullshit.
Wonder how Gove feels about this what with charlie being metric and bob hope being ozs.
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Officially we work in metric, and any old plans need to be converted to metric, but most of us in our 50s think in a weird hybrid in our head
no line measure glasses in scotland. always annoyed me
Still?!? Blimey.
Wonder how Gove feels about this what with charlie being metric and bob hope being ozs.
Rees-Mogg will be in his element, he'll be absolutely loving this. Next step will be sending kids out to the workhouses which he'll be fully on board with too.
it's just noise and desperation now
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
As others say, it never went away, the reality is that the EU directive was never really adhered to by the UK, so they amended it, and that's why we kept miles for road markings, pints for milk, beer, etc and so on.
It never really affected the UK using both systems, the EU, and UK didn't care if Joe Bloggs wanted to sell his fruit and veg by the pound or kilogram, it does affect those selling to places like the EU, if they do not put metric units on their goods, but again, that's not going to cause old Sue to have a heart attack, as she's none the wiser.
As for this, it's Boris being Boris, he has again just blurted something out as if it's of merit, it has no merit, those regulations that require following due to metrication will still need to be followed, otherwise UK businesses will lose business, if anyone wants to use imperial in the UK, well it never went away, it is just an antiquated system that has been replaced by a more efficient, and useful scale.
I did enjoy reading some of the comments on articles though, it is pretty much as you'd expect, 80 year old gammons going on about the good old days.
Imagine toe costs of goods going up even more as the EU factories need to find the cost to change all the packing just for Little Britain - he hasn’t thought this through has he.
I work for an American organisation. I carry two sets of allen keys, two sets of spanners, and two sets of feeler gauges. We process materials measured in microns. Bloody pain in the arse.
We calibrate equipment with a mix of Imperial and metric weights. There's no reason not to use either though the manufacturing and therefore work instructions originate from the US.
Both sets of weights are easily available in the UK in traceable form and the local authority calibrate these for us annually. It's not an issue.
Its obviously more dog whistle shit from the shower of ****s but I suppose it makes it easier to figure out who you should be giving your money too.
Imagine toe costs of goods going up even more as the EU factories need to find the cost to change all the packing just for Little Britain – he hasn’t thought this through has he.
He has though hasn't he. All part of the "punishment" for the country voting the wrong way in the referendum.......
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Yes, every time you drive past a road sign... distance to places in miles, distance to give way in yards, countdown marker stripes to a motorway junction 300 yards, 200 yards, 100 yards (marker posts and emergency phones are set at multiples of 100m intervals-work that one out!)
Possibly the most common BB thread is 1.37 inches x 24 threads per inch, but 68mm, or 73mm or 83mm or 100mm wide 🙂
Standard threads, nuts, bolts… what’s the point of that? A different thread for every application on every fixing, please. And keep them completely proprietary if possible. Progress is for the global liberal elites, like Joseph Whitworth, we want none of that.
Joseph whitworth may have standardised engineering but it was Joseph rowntree who standardised sweets and everyone knows they come in quarters
They might do at Woolworths.
The sooner they bring back woolies the better
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Full MemberIs there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Games Workshop
Am I awake...? Is this real...? Are these the sunlit uplands?
Games Workshop
Hehehe, I see what you did there, well played! 🙂
great to be able order a pint again
I’ve never been in a pub in the UK that asked me to order half a litre.
Yeah weird innit and the road signs not being in KM.
It’s got a very small market for this,I’m awaiting the next announcement that your going back to the pre-decimal currency system and bringing back hanging 🙂
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Pipe fitters are one example.
The manuals for some of the American equipment we install is in imperial and metric, it's been known to be wrong, which is a problem as it's fairly critical. So you either convert it yourself to check or do it in imperial.
But yeah, American engineers I've met prefer working in metric too.
The sooner they bring back woolies the better
Radio Rentals is more likely.
But basically this.
more dog whistle shit from the shower of ****
I work for an American organisation. I carry two sets of allen keys, two sets of spanners, and two sets of feeler gauges.
Do you use both imperial and metric adjustable spanners? That’d be a pain having to carry both.
Am I awake…? Is this real…? Are these the sunlit uplands?
I suppose it’s the problem with cults.
Did you take the blue or red pill though ?
And do you have a spoon.
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
I work in Aerospace and all dimensions are in mm, but hole diameters and fastener sizes are imperial! Natural I think in a hybrid at 34, although during our apprenticeship we were taught imperial measures for this reason.
it’s the problem with cults
One letter out...
Is there actually anyone of working age who will have worked with imperial measurements?
Ironic that you're asking this on a cycling forum given the cycle industry's obsession with mixing imperial and metric!
Day to day, I'm not sure many people care. You go to a Post Office and weigh a letter and just buy the correct amount of stamps, it doesn't matter that it's 57g or 2oz.
You fill up with fuel and just put £20 in, doesn't matter that it's 2.5 gallons or 11.4 litres (at £1.75/l).
Food is just a tin or a jar or a pre-pack. I need a tin of beans - here's a tin of beans.
It's all a bit crazy really.
The reality we live in is a bit of both.
Sometimes a bit of conversion is nesesary, luckily I have a tape measure with both measurements on it!
Thank god for Stanley!
given the cycle industry’s obsession with mixing imperial and metric!
And it's proper mixing.....inches expressed with a decimal point! Any other industry do that?
Sometimes a bit of conversion is nesesary, luckily I have a tape measure with both measurements on it!
You see I only ever buy tape measures that are metric only because frankly dual sided tapes are PITA when the side you want to measure in mm always seems to be on the inch side. Thankfully there are plenty of metric only tapes out there these days.
Thank god for Stanley!
Living in France now I believe
it's strange from watching teardown vids on utube most modern US automitive product is entirely metric.
Living in France now I believe
👍🙃 Well played.
I have some imperial micrometers. Gawd knows how anyone used the seriously.
But I do like imperial. there is poetry in the units and they are at a better human scale than metric.
I mean - a hectare - 100m x 100m. dull. An acre is a chain by a furlong. Much more poetic
What about a tape measure with both metric and imperial...
... Wait for it...
On the same side!
….and here we all are, talking about it, instead of Johnson’s changes to the ministerial code etc etc. Dead cat job done.
Hate to disagree with you uncle Jezza, but you can keep your poetry. As someone who uses measurements constantly all day, every day, Imperial units of measurement make absolutely no sense whatsoever and are frankly the product of a deranged mind
No wonder Boris wants them back
Living in France now I believe
Not just living in France, the old wifebeater now has French citizenship
….and here we all are, talking about it, instead of Johnson’s changes to the ministerial code etc etc. Dead cat job done.
and yet news @ 10 still talking about sue gray report tampering
an acre is defined as the amount of land ploughable by one man and an ox in one day. In other words 43,560 square feet. It can be any shape.
In future all journeys shall be measured against the time taken to travel by pony and trap and include stoppages for spent beasts and highwaymen.
and yet news @ 10 still talking about sue gray report tampering
And Twitter is full of stuff about yet more parties in number ten organised by Carrie Antionette
come on - what makes more sense than 12 inches in a foot, 3 feet in a yard 9 1/2 feet ( IIRC) is a rod, pole or perch ( with again IIRC regional variations) 22 yards in a chain, 10 chains is a furlong and a mile - the crowning glory - 8 furlongs or 1760 yards or 5280 ft
Then you have the wonder of the old inch to a mile maps 1: 63360
And of course troy weight and avoirdupois weight
then nautical =- a fathom is six feet and nautical miles something I have forgotton that is bigger than a statue mile
All much nicer numbers and much less boring. don't throw away the poetry! You have the soul of a philistine
Bet you pump up your tyres to PSI not bar 🙂
Here in Spain, which was still in the EU last time I looked, the plumbers use 3/4 " pipe and fittings all the time.
nautical miles something I have forgotton
doesn't get any more "imperial" 1 minute of 1 degree of the circumference.
1/60 * 1/360 * 24,859.734 miles
but let's face it metric is basically a french thing so we have to be anti on principle.
I was taught my trade using metric but I almost always use inches for measuring and cutting.
I find 15 and 5/8 inches both easier and quicker to read than 397mm. I also find 15 and 5/8 easier to remember in my head than 397, useful if you have to remember a measurement for several minutes.
And as the measurement gets larger the benefit also increases, eg 61 inches is a lot easier to read and remember than 1549mm. Millimetres seem to get mixed up in a way than inches don't, eg as you walk around trying to remember 1549mm and it can be misremembered as 1594mm in a way that 61 inches can't easily be misremembered as 16 inches.
I'm not the only one who finds imperial often easier to use than metric.
In the garage just now I noticed a packet of mint imperials is 200g. I'm going to write to my MP, it's a disgrace
TJ please tell me which tab on memory map converts it to pirates of the Caribbean mode. My kids will love it
And Twitter is full of stuff about yet more parties in number ten organised by Carrie Antionette
She's special. She doesn't have to care what the little people think.
As I said earlier I bet she's organising some seriously overpriced and seriously gauche Downing Street street party for Liz Windsor's whatever it is.
All the while her delightful hubby's presence is a living insult to Lizzy who was left sitting alone at her hubby's funeral, the day after Downing Street hosted another illegal lockdown pissup.
But the gammons and louts won't care so long as Bozza surrounds himself with more union jacks than Mussolini would deem tasteful and utter some kind of 'accidental' clanger about something 'woke'.
The Tories will win the next election and nothing will change.
C'est tout.
Thats my point about the human scale of imperial Ernie.
How many of you are 1m78 tall and how many 5'9 3/4" ?