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House of Commons repairs:
review produced by the body put the basic costs of essential repairs at £7bn-£13bn and estimated they would take between 19 and 28 years
For context, that between £100 and £200 per person in the UK.
That’s a big number.
Still I’m sure those rich Tory donors and Russians will all be clamouring to do their bit.
House of Commons repairs:
review produced by the body put the basic costs of essential repairs at £7bn-£13bn and estimated they would take between 19 and 28 years
For context, that between £100 and £200 per person in the UK.
I know we love history and all that, but i never understand why we spend so much trying to preserve things in a state that are long past and more often than not, useless against today's technology and ability.
Just knock the place down, get the company that slaps up tescos or asdas and then buy some kit from ikea, you could save £10 billion 😁
Surely £7bn would build a state of the art governance campus along with security. Possibly even outside London but with adequate officing, accommodation and staff.
I know we love history and all that, but i never understand why we spend so much trying to preserve things in a state that are long past and more often than not, useless against today’s technology and ability.
Just knock the place down, get the company that slaps up tescos or asdas and then buy some kit from ikea, you could save £10 billion 😁
And sell the old place to spoons for mates rates (might as well the amount of pi$$ they are taking out the public).
The **** irony if this is true*
Been a lot of speculation where Carrie's disappeared to
https://twitter.com/MrsNigel/status/1527935203582394368?t=dI___v80KE1NAFMgehTu0w&s=19
*I doubt it is but would be so funny
kimbers
Full Memberinterestingly for joe blogs if you get fine a second time it doubles and then doubles again up to max of £6k
but met decided that in these cases No10 staff only have to pay £50 each time
which also stinks
So I think, but could be wrong, that this is just different circumstances- if you get fined, reoffend, get fined (or get warned, reoffend, get warned again and then get fined) then they multiply. But in this case because they're all coming retroactively that doesn't apply
Y'know,
The point at which Callmedave Cameron was accused of being fellated by a dead pig's head and the entire country went "yeah, sounds about right, what time does Bake Off start?" really should've been the red flag for what was to come.
From the outside looking in I'm thinking "what do they actually have to do before they finally get called out?" From the inside looking out they're thinking the same and it's open season on the proles. From the remoaners to the flag shaggers to the acolytes of Farage, they're having us all for mugs and they are laughing about it.
Well the voters seem to like what they are doing as they keep voting for them.
The system that allows it is never going to be changed as that change would have to come from the people benefitting from the current system.
A revolution is probably the only way it will change and this country is not really a revolution type of country is it.
Partygate really does represent the modern world in a microcosm. The juniors who attended because their bosses said they could and/or should, go in for an interview, just to give an account of events, and get punished. Those who hold the power go in lawyered up ready for the fight, and largely get away with it.
When the rich and powerful have such a strong hold on power, control of the system and the media narrative, I really just don't see how it changes.
Looking more and more like number 10 trying to pressurize Sue Gray.
TBH the original one was pretty damning, people are not interested in what their eyes are showing them.
He’s dragged it out long enough for people to equate his sin as being the same as Starmers and now covids ‘over’.
I’ve said all along that he’s ‘special’ and above us,as that’s what my eyes see playing out. I don’t even see a great orator or master of debate,(I’ve deleted Hitler ref- bit to flippant)
Just a fat Etonian slumming it,truly like the emperors new clothes.
as they keep voting for them
Must of us didn’t for them. How great is UK democracy?
I’ve said all along that he’s ‘special’ and above us, as that’s what my eyes see playing out.
He’s worked very hard to make it this way. He may be lazy when it comes to acting for the country, but he is tireless when acting in his own interests… building and promoting allies and destroying the careers of detractors.
Less than 30% of the electorate voted for Johnson. They do need need to see there is an alternative rather than a thinly disguised version of the same.
So if you didn’t already know that Johnson was a self serving arse, the news is reporting this morning that he’s suspended working on the cost of living crisis while he prepares for the Sue Gray report.
I find at abhorrent that this kind of activity is public knowledge yet we’ve still no way to remove him while he bumbles along taking the piss out of us to preserve his career.
He’s dragged it out long enough for people to equate his sin as being the same as Starmers and now covids ‘over’.
Yep - whatever is published now (which I guess will be a heavily edited / redacted / watered-down version) will simply be more noise.
We've accepted there were "errors of judgement", we've been fined, the report is nothing new, we need to move on and LOOK! Starmer did it too!
And like Gavin Williamson, Sue Gray will end up with a title / peerage or something for "working closely with No 10".
the news is reporting this morning that he’s suspended working on the cost of living crisis while he prepares for the Sue Gray report.
To be honest, I'm not sure how reassured I'd feel if he was in charge of the cost of living crisis.....
And like Gavin Williamson, Sue Gray will end up with a title / peerage or something for “working closely with No 10”
Apparently this isn't the case at all. The Guardian reported that she's been ostracised, and briefed against constantly by number ten and their attack dogs in the press in an attempt to bully and discredit her before the report is published
I see, via the Guardian, that Cummings has been wading in again talking about photos.
What I fail to see is where these photos are going to miraculously come from; if Cummings has them why hasn't he already released them, and if he hasn't why does he expect them to come out now?
Unless he's talking about photos that Sue Gray has, but Guardian also reporting that the photos may be removed from report after all.
. The Guardian reported that she’s been ostracised, and briefed against constantly by number ten and their attack dogs in the press
Certainly been my understanding of what's been going on, but this government has caused so much division and distrust its our natural reaction to anything.
Even if she publishes the report sat behind a desk decorated with Boris's severed head, some folk will still claim its a whitewash and doesn't go far enough.
"The big question is will the windfall tax be announced two minutes before, or two minutes after Sue Gray's report is published." - bbc forum's.
sounds likely to me
Im not sure they have that level of joined up thinking tbh
N10 is stuck in permanent crisis mode, just making things up minute by minute
https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1528697854889545728
EVERYONE is playing politics... except for Johnson... obviously.
🤷🏻
“The big question is will the windfall tax be announced two minutes before, or two minutes after Sue Gray’s report is published.” – bbc forum’s.
I expect there will be all manner of dead cats flung about this week. Windfall tax, sending immigrants to Rwanda, arms shipments to Ukraine
Has anyone seen Carrie Antionette?
Curiously, as I typed "carrie johnson" into google, the autocomplete added "zac goldsmith baby"
Maybe Boris is no longer looking like a viable source of income.
I thought that was a joke.
What a time to be alive.
Curiously, as I typed “carrie johnson” into google, the autocomplete added “zac goldsmith baby”
I wondered what the Zac Goldsmith story was. Please, let it be true, Boris getting a taste of his own medicine.
Has anyone seen Carrie Antionette?
Has anyone done the 'Let them eat Zac?' joke yet?
Johnson's Johnson can't produce more Johnsons.
But if child no2 (of Carrie) is not his then it was conceived march 2021. Sounds like another fine for breaking lockdown for Carrie.
Nevermind lying to parliament, this Zac Goldsmith smear is the kind of story that can actually tarnish Johnson's reputation in a way that will cut through to the electorate. I hope it gets traction in the media.
We should all do our duty and Google it.
It won't be true. It's too good.
Sounds like another fine for breaking lockdown for Carrie.
None of the goings on at Chequers during the lockdowns have been looked into by anyone yet.
At least Hancock had the decency to fall on his own sword.
At least Hancock had the decency to fall on his own sword.
Wasn't the issue with Hancock other people falling on his sword?
Nonetheless, his resignation does seem to be a charming, quaint, old-fashioned notion in the face of events since
Does anyone really believe that Johnson will resign, even if there's photos of him leading hundreds of people in a conga around the Downing Street garden while swigging from a bottle of White Lightning?
Theres no chance. He's absolutely shameless, and those behind him are utterly spineless. He'll carry on regardless, no matter what the Sue Grey report says. Anyone who thinks any different is being hopelessly naive
I find at abhorrent that this kind of activity is public knowledge yet we’ve still no way to remove him while he bumbles along taking the piss out of us to preserve his career.
He'll wave a Union Jack, say Labour want us back in the EU and are soft on immigration, possibly make an 'accidental' remark or two about 'bumboys' or letterboxes, hide in a fridge and he'll win another general election.
Theres no chance. He’s absolutely shameless, and those behind him are utterly spineless. He’ll carry on regardless, no matter what the Sue Grey report says. Anyone who thinks any different is being hopelessly naive
This. If there's one quality the man has got, it's neck.
TBH the original one was pretty damning, people are not interested in what their eyes are showing them.
He’s dragged it out long enough for people to equate his sin as being the same as Starmers and now covids ‘over’.
I’ve said all along that he’s ‘special’ and above us,as that’s what my eyes see playing out. I don’t even see a great orator or master of debate,(I’ve deleted Hitler ref- bit to flippant)
Just a fat Etonian slumming it, truly like the emperors new clothes.
Yep, you obfuscate, delay and slap as many dead cats on the table as it takes to Bore/gaslight/trivialise your critics into non-existence.
the news is reporting this morning that he’s suspended working on the cost of living crisis while he prepares for the Sue Grey report.
"Suspended" I like that, surely something needs to be in progress in order to be suspended...
Plebs dealing with the escalating cost of tinned beans (or whatever they eat) or the rocketing cost of hydrocarbons, was always going to come a distant second behind saving 'Big Dog'...
Curiously, as I typed “carrie johnson” into google, the autocomplete added “zac goldsmith baby”
It's the ultimate Fake Dead cat I reckon, It's all a bit too "real housewives of..." don't we think? They must have had fun brainstorming this one up though.
Gossipy bullshit to distract the plebs yet again. We'll get a bit of speculative fluff on the topic which helps help dilute coverage of the Grey report, then it can be addressed as a "lefty media conspiracy" trying to assassinate the character of the nations favourite couple, a tearful interview and a some footage of them clutching hands on the doorstep of No.10 and it's all done with.
It’s the ultimate Fake Dead cat I reckon, It’s all a bit too “real housewives of…” don’t we think? They must have had fun brainstorming this one up though.
Gossipy bullshit to distract the plebs yet again. We’ll get a bit of speculative fluff on the topic which helps help dilute coverage of the Grey report, then it can be addressed as a “lefty media conspiracy” trying to assassinate the character of the nations favourite couple, a tearful interview and a some footage of them clutching hands on the doorstep of No.10 and it’s all done with.
So.
Totally.
This.
Just Google Vladislav Surkov (or watch 'Hypernormalisation') to get the idea.
Initially he seemed very lax about covid, then he got it himself
Can anyone explain how he wasnt fined?*
*without implying police corruption
Obviously ambushed by that glass and its contents
*without implying police corruption
Does good old fashioned MET police incompetence count?
Has the NHS minister been fined during partygate? Did his brother accept an invite to a no. 10 shindig?
*without implying police corruption
Doesn't need implying. Openly stated is more appropriate.
Not sure what people want of the Met at this point... they investigated, found lots of breaches at the heart of government, fined lots of people, including the two people at the top of government... that should have resulted in the PM standing down. But he hasn't. And he won't. If they issue more fines... what difference will it make? He still won't step down.
What's really need is for the Prime Minister to take responsibility. If that's not in his interest, he won't, despite being in charge. This applies to everything else as well. From Northern Ireland, to food prices.
Unfortunately the inept buffoon will only go once (or if) he threatens to lose the next G.E for the tories. All the Party is interested in is retaining their power and nothing will alter that.
Well they did have hand sanitiser and were taking their anti-covid mouth washes,
I can't see what you're complaining about.
Theres no chance. He’s absolutely shameless, and those behind him are utterly spineless. He’ll carry on regardless, no matter what the Sue Grey report says. Anyone who thinks any different is being hopelessly naive
100% My only hope is it poisons the Tories for the next decade
I've said it before on this thread; Bozza's backbenchers need to see his presence as more damaging to their own prospects than his removal, only then will they put their letter into Graham Brady and get that VONC going. Half the trick is making sure there are no real contenders. Currently they still see him as enough of an asset to back, obviously they view the world through a slightly different lens to their constituents.
Pressure applied to the PM is pretty irrelevant, we've established that he doesn't care; He's got the top job until at least the next GE and the only way He's going to be removed is by a VONC from his own MPs or actually being arrested for something...
I’ve said it before on this thread; Bozza’s backbenchers need to see his presence as more damaging to their own prospects than his removal, only then will they put their letter into Graham Brady and get that VONC going.
Dishy Rishi is toast so could be a fair chance Truss is the next PM who is basically BJ without any 'charm' or 'Borisness'. Tories gotta be thinking thats not a worthwhile result from getting rid of the Big Dog.
or actually being arrested for something…
He'd still be PM if his MPs let him.
or actually being arrested for something…
you sure about that?
He literally can't tell the truth can he? And each lie needs a more convoluted lie to cover the last lie. And I see people on Twitter still defending him? #hopeless
The photos emerging was surely inevitable since Boris did what he always does and threw other people, in this case Junior civil servants, under the bus to save his own arse
The BBC have just said that they’ve spoken to people who were at these ‘gatherings’ who have said that they were instigated by Johnson, contradicting his story that he just ‘popped in’ for ten minutes
I wonder what else is going to drip drip drip out this week
The BBC have just said that they’ve spoken to people who were at these ‘gatherings’ who have said that they were instigated by Johnson, contradicting his story that he just ‘popped in’ for ten minutes
I wonder what else is going to drip drip drip out this week
The problem with this is it can easily make the Police investigation and failure to fine him the focus, and his original wrongdoing can be hidden behind that dead cat
We will never see it, but I'd love to know what he wrote on his Questionnaire to the Met. I expect he couldnt remember about an awful lot of instances, knowing they wouldn't call him out.
but I’d love to know what he wrote on his Questionnaire to the Met
Name: Mickey Mouse, Har har
Address: address me as Sir Mouse
Followed by a badly drawn picture of some boobs and a car.
Etc.
I keep seeing this stuff and folk thinking he'll resign, or be pushed, but his entire career has been based on pretty much an act, he has changed his allegiances, friends, enemies, morales, etc depending on what would be better for him, his entire universe rotates around him, so why anyone thinks he'd move aside is just ignoring his entire history!
As for alternatives, those backbenchers and the rest couldn't care as long as they can go for their seat again in 2 years time, they're either the old and true blue tories who have seen this stuff before, and know how much it'll change before an election, or they're younger, greener MPs who just follow what the chief whip and senior tories tell them.
I’ve noticed local red wall Toraidh MPs with paid for ads on face book ostensibly gathering opinions on immigration or levelling up but which seem to be data gathering exercises. I think an election may be coming sooner rather than later.
I’m tempted up set up some ghost profiles to see what sort of stuff gets sent out.
We will never see it, but I’d love to know what he wrote on his Questionnaire to the Met.
Hint: he won't have written anything on it. His lawyer will have acted as a filter between what he could remember and what was put on the paper.
I'm reluctant to jump on everything as a dead cat, just because I don't think there's that much planning involved in Johnson's day to day planning.
But in this case...
https://twitter.com/kitty_donaldson/status/1528786872260075522?t=Acc-C7oXwsUyy_3i5V4Gxw&s=19
Windfall tax plans in FT too
FT also reporting he asked Sue Gray if she still needs to publish the report in their meeting
peter bone(head) on newsnight dismally attempting to defend the indefensible.
A prime example of arseholery; scum of the highest order.
The MET investigations were impartial - really?
This smells worse than my bin.
The RW press went in hard today painting Gray as partisan and saying it was her that wanted the meeting with Johnson.
Bunch of *****.
Some people at a party fined others not. How can this be?
For months, and as recently as today, Johnson has been using the "can't talk about that, just wait for Sue Gray's report to be published" line... while also, simultaneously, trying to stop the report being published? This is the man we let lead the country?
I’m predicting a feigned heart attack sometime soon due to the pressures, then a period of rest and recuperation until the start of the summer recess………
A ministerial version of going to the Winchester, having a pint and waiting for all this to blow over 😉
Looking at the headlines across multiple media that photo is leading to questions being asked of:
The MET's impartiality.
The MET's competence.
Whether Johnson lied to parliament.
The pressure put on Gray to not publish the report.
That's one hell of a lump of straw trying to break the camel's back. It won't, they'll get away with it somehow, but it's going to be an interesting week or so until the next distraction lands.
but it’s going to be an interesting week or so until the next distraction lands.
Jubilee! It's all about Her Maj. Don't dare question our Glorious Leader while we should all be flag shagging and singing the National Anthem.
Traitors not singing will be sent to Rwanda.
Boris loves the queen, he lies to her every day. You should love the queen too, print some nice headlines about the Jubilee and how Boris is leading the celebrations.
Some people at a party fined others not. How can this be?
The quality and availability of legal advice from "activist" lawyers. For a more detailed explanation have a read of yesterday's David Allen Green blog item.
Jubilee! It’s all about Her Maj. Don’t dare question our Glorious Leader while we should all be flag shagging and singing the National Anthem.
Traitors not singing will be sent to Rwanda.
This.
He doesn't need to reach for the dead cat shelf for at least another 13 days.
It's almost like he's got a caddy handing him the dead cats.
"Ummm err, photographed at yet another lockdown breaking piss up, ummm errr, what do you recommend?"
"In light of you getting away with the last one scot free, I don't think you need one of the big gun policy ones, I'd go with just a bit of empty 'support' for Ukraine this time. Nothing special needed, just run it up onto the green, two putts and job's a good'un. Oh, and don't forget to be photographed in front of a Union jack".
He isn't going anywhere.
Do 2 things today…
Write to your scumbag Tory mp saying how disgraceful dumbojos behaviour has been to the queen and that you’ll not vote for them til he’s gone.
Give some money to the Good Law Project.
Some people at a party fined others not. How can this be?
If you want an easy life, always punch down.
There’ll be a few additions to the next honours list too, obvs
Not sure what people want of the Met at this point
Treating people with and without expensive solicitors evenly would be a start.
Despite the propaganda justice and the penalties handed out has never been blind to wealth and influence but you would hope that things should be improving. This just shows that at least in the Met’s case that the quality of your legal representative’s tailoring still plays a big part in how hard they pursue you.
Not sure what people want of the Met at this point… …
Do their freakin' job, that's all!
You know when someone has a carrot removed from their arse at A&E, and they say they "fell on it while eating a salad in the nude"? This "just bumped in to a party" excuse is about as plausible.
Do their freakin’ job, that’s all!
They've given him a fine. They've given his team over a hundred fines. He should resign. They could give him a few more, and his team hundreds more... and it would make no difference. The can't fire him, only his MPs can.