So just after Black History Month, we have an article to say that a Johnson relative may have been a white slave but it did them no harm. What a co-incidence when BHM brings up the issue of reparations.
Its not trivia to note that his belief in protecting the environment ends where his enjoyment starts.
It is though isn't it? Because every one of us is guilty of that. Until we abandon this ridiculous and childish game of pointing out the failings in others the climate issue will never be solved. I'm surprised at how many people here who are normally 'on the left' don't seem to get this. Climate change goes far beyond rich vs poor or right vs left.
It is though isn’t it? Because every one of us is guilty of that
Speak for yourself. I can, hand on heart, honestly say that I’ve completely cut out my personal private jet and helicopter travel and I’m now using chip fat in my fleet of Bentleys and getting the servants staff to collect and shovel McDonalds packaging into the furnace to heat my 150 room stately home
Should have followed his old mate Jimmy Savile's advice & used the train!
every one of us is guilty of that. Until we abandon this ridiculous and childish game of pointing out the failings in others the climate issue will never be solved
Because it is so hypocritical of people like Bezos to pledge $2bn to "restore nature" after grasping Earth's fragility after his big joy ride into space. How much resources and carbon did he use just to get Capt Kirk into space for 5 minute?
Plentyof people know action is needed without the need for the vanity project.
Its all PR... lots of special people banking their "i was there and i told you so" position for 20 years down the line while climbing back into their private jets safe in the knowledge it wont be their shit show to manage in 2050.
Wont even be in the news by Wednesday.
I've just been listening to Daliso Chapanda (sp?) on radio 4
He's just come out with....
"At Cop, the African countries are asking how they see the world leaders such as Boris Johnson. And you know, it's awkward, because we have had terrible leaders like Gaddaffi, Idi Amin and Mugabe.
But you, YOU ELECTED THEM!"
Even Africa is laughing at Blojo..
Johnson supports changing the rules to bail out Owen Paterson from being suspended and Special K abstained. What was considered a crime in the 90s has now been institutionalised.
Special K abstained.
I thought he wasn't there today? That's why Rayner did PMQs.
What was considered a crime in the 90s has now been institutionalised.
Indeed. People mock other countries because they find their politicians guilty of crimes. Where as our politicians make sure that their actions are made legal, no matter how "corrupt" they would be in another country... in a democratic country.
Johnson supports changing the rules to bail out Owen Paterson from being suspended and Special K abstained.
Thats because he is isolating still!
Did he pair?
The government imposed a three line whip, so he wouldn’t have been able to arrange a pairing.
The story here is nothing to do with Starmer or any other Labour MP, not sure why you want to make it so.
My m.p abstained, so he’s got some principles just not enough to do the right thing, even though he thought the amendment was not compatible with the high standards expected of mp’s - spineless.
slavery whitewashing
So just after Black History Month, we have an article to say that a Johnson relative may have been a white slave but it did them no harm. What a co-incidence when BHM brings up the issue of reparations.
Reading the article, my take is that Stanley Johnson’s great-grandfather (and Alexander Boris dePfeffel Johnson’s great-great grandfather) was a 43 year old child rapist.
One of our local Tory MP headbangers voted against, which is a real surprise. Must be bad for him to rebel
Did he pair?
I think we can safely assume that there's no way of finding out, and therefore the only possibly conclusion to be drawn is that he did not, and it's probably a no-brainer that the reason he definitely did not pair is because he couldn't be ****ed because he loves corruption and the Tories.
Hanging's too good for him!
How can I find out how my MP voted guys?
I'd put money on how she voted but just want to check!
The vote split... Aye, 247 tories, 1 DUP, and 1 "independent" who is actually a Tory suspended for sexual harassment of one of his employees who again would have had his ass fired in almost any other job.
no, literally everyone ****ing else because of course.
I think Johnsos base won't care much about it all but in vulnerable seats Tory exceptionalism will cut through
https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1456041552871100418?s=20
no, literally everyone ****ing else because of course
Of course. And if it wan’t for the cult of Johnson, more Tory MPs would have done the right thing as well. They’ll vote for anything if he insists, no matter the future damage to their own reputation, or the reputation of parliament and politicians more generally.
Hanging’s too good for him!
Is this satire?
The idea that Starmer, or Miliband, or Trickett, or any other Labour MP absent today would have done anything other than vote against if present is for the birds.
No pairing would have been in operation as Conservative MPs were under a three line whip.
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Vote results here.And this is Chris Bryant MP’s speech explaining the standards committee’s decision.
Yeah, just as as expected, she voted for the amendment.
I ******* hate this government.
17 vote gap and 40-odd abstentions from opposition parties. I know some will have been isolating but t<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">here were also a number of tories that abstained - do we know that some pairing wasn't done against the whip anyway?</span>
I read on Twitter there was pairing.
The Mails front page is after them.
Torygraph and Express seem to have missed the whole thing.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/03/owen-paterson-his-claims-and-how-they-stack-up-in-analysi s">Guardian Summary
Yuck
40-odd abstentions from opposition parties
MPs who were absent. The leader of the house stopped voting remotely because the “pandemic is over”. Yet we now have an outbreak in the House of Commons that prevents many MPs from attending and voting.
Paterson is clearly a squirrel here. Johnson and the Tory top brass are happy for all the headlines to point in that direction and after the new sleaze commission is set up they will sacrifice the expendable Paterson in a wholly unexpected explosion of zeal to root out corruption ….thus allaying all those who are hard of thinking that actually everything is above board.
Meanwhile all the proper criminality which this bunch of scum have been getting away with as they shamelessly trouser public assets and associated wealth will be brushed under the carpet by this sham committee set up specifically to protect the top generals.
Paterson is clearly a squirrel here. Johnson and the Tory top brass are happy for all the headlines to point in that direction and after the new sleaze commission is set up they will sacrifice the expendable Paterson in a wholly unexpected explosion of zeal to root out corruption
Boris was supposedly the next one up in front of Standards Committee (again) over the Downing Street flat refurbishment so yes, I'd say there's definitely some self-interest in making sure that it gets a major overhaul before he has to face it again.
Cummings really is fun these days
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1456192905580843009?t=PeUnRzR0E1g3fdb6v1VG5A&s=19
The Paterson farce could well have been Johnsons Black Wednesday
That said he still isnt that unpopular among voters
its his own party hes alienated with his incompetence
interesting to see how that plays out
https://twitter.com/mrjimbob/status/1458491930111795207?s=21
You have to admit, the man is funny…
"I think what you have got is cases where, sadly, MPs have broken the rules in the past, may be guilty of breaking the rules today. What I want to see is them facing appropriate sanctions."
🤡
It would be funny if it was over.
Only last week he 3-line-whipped to prevent sanctions against Owen Paterson.
I know people will often knock the source but in this case obviously the singer from Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine is obviously above reproach.
He is in my mind. I have a Twitter list set up for musical heroes (and wannabes) that I go to when trying to avoid politics. That came up and ruined it all… but so few words holding so much truth in them… led by donkeys… and Johnson is King Donkey.
Does anyone know what the point is of Allegra Stratton?
She’s on channel 4 news now. Since she was taken on as ‘Boris Johnson’s spokesman’ this is the first time I’ve seen her
So much for appearing in his 2 million quid press room. The one that looks like something they’d knock up at a Travel Lodge for a photocopier sales conference
Spokesperson for a man with absolutely nothing to say. As non-jobs Goni bet it’s pretty well paid
I think you mean "nothing valuable to say" he says words, frequently.
Slight hijack.
While you guys are agonizing on PM Johnson you have taken your eye off the main issue which is the Communist China (not Chinese people but the Communist govt). If you think HK is now living in 1984, think again as their next target is Taiwan. If Taiwan falls, Asia will fall and your current lifestyle will come to the past. They will use all the tricks in the book to ensure they dominate over Asia. Your global warming agenda etc will be history.
Current issues in China:
1. Property bubble burst
2. Panic food buying or stocking in many regions (government encourages the people to stock up ...)
3. Coal shortage (price has increased by 50% to 100% in some region). Officially no central heating is allowed until 1 Nov
4. Price inflation - food price increase.
5. Shortage of petrol
6. Increase surveillance of people movement (try HK to experience for yourself)
7. Xi may need to boost his profile by 2022 to remain forever
8. May initiate first mover advantage to take Taiwan while "Let's go Brandon" is in power
9. Trusted sources from the east is that all the information i.e. numbers or data, Chinese Communist govt presents to the world is all cooked up
10. Oh ya they buy people to influence or to help them continue their propaganda
The question now is trying to figure out how deep their tentacles have embedded in the western system. i.e. stealing tech secret etc. Also their influence in the western democracy.
Your climate change, global warming whatever ambition will come to the past once Asia is in China's total control.
Wake up!
Knock!
Knock!
Wake up!
The world greatest danger now is Chinese Communist with their invisible hands.
Turn your attention to China.
I was about to say we might have a new trollbot but no, we don't.
Shhhh! Don't feed the Trash Panda.
Nigerian anti corruption czar calls out Johnson's claim that UK is "Not Corrupt"
It's Ok everyone we have an anti-corruption Czar as well, his name is John Penrose, he's married (just in case you were wondering) to Dido Harding...so ner ner to the Nigerians, eh?
Have the Chinese developed a death ray yet?
Prime Minister Boris Johnson tells the 1922 committee of backbench Tory MPs “On a clear road I crashed the car into a ditch” over the Paterson affair.
That’s what happens when you drive drunk.
Either he has some very reflective moments or he's losing the battle with the bottle.
Why would he go all-out to defend a largely indefensible lobbying case against Paterson, and to break long-standing parliamentary conventions to do so? Because he will soon face investigation by those same processes and this was a way to force through helpful changes to those processes while having someone else’s name and face attached to it.
That's the most important point in the article imo. The idea that Johnson stuck his head out to help a friend is, I think, is frankly ridiculous.
What I might be less in agreement with is the amount of damage it might have done to Johnson and the Tories.
Sure it's done damage but the very latest opinion poll only gives Labour a 1% lead and the previous one placed Labour and the Tories in tie position. The next general election is still potentially years away and there is no reason to believe the fallout from something with has been admitted as a mistake will last that long.
In fact I actually think this little saga and how it has backfired so spectacularly might well do Johnson a huge favour.
It has taught him that despite his massive majority and a spectacularly inept opposition there are limitations with what he can get away with. Better to learn that lesson now than in the run-up to a general election.
The only way this particular **** up might cause more lasting damage is if it paves the way for more scrutiny into the shenanigans of Johnson, a man who is clearly dishonest. But that could have been the case even without the **** up handling.
Otherwise I see the badly handled Paterson issue as a minor inconvenience for Johnson and a rather useful lesson to learn.
I expect the polls to quickly swing back in the Tories favour as people see the pandemic tightening its grips in Europe whilst possibly loosening in the UK, whether or not Johnson deserves credit - he is a master at taking credit, see "Boris' bikes and the London Olympics as examples of how he loves to take undeserved credit.
And of course the opposition is still the same. I can't see him losing that much sleep.
