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If your elite Praetorians are Dorries and Fabricant, you truly are screwed.
So if you only break the law for 10 minutes it doesn't count.
That'll be Randy Andy's excuse
Who’s doing the morning press round tomorrow then? Looks like there are only now two remaining options: Mad Nad or Micky Fab.
Something to look forward to then
Lovely seeing Nadine going down with the sinking ship.
If she can't get on Strictly this year she could be in financial trouble.😁
Peter Bone on Newsnight is going to have a cardiac if he doesn't calm down
^^ Lol, just watched that.
Always spectacularly entertaining watching anyone in any context patently attempting to defend the indefensible.
I know that this is by far and away not the worst thing that Johnson has done as PM but for me it is cutting through emotionally a bit more than many of the others.
My birthday's in late May. I remember on my birthday in 2020 I got a Facebook video that a friend had made and lots of other friends had contributed to. I live alone and had been working from home since March and it had been getting to me a bit and it was a wonderful thing to receive...
...But apparently it would have been fine to say "**** the lockdown restrictions" and have a get together after all.
Sunak can't be arsed to investigate £5 billion of Covid relief fraud but we're all getting excited about Johnson's jammy sponge cake. The world's gone mad !!
I hope they wheel out George Useless Eustace for tomorrow morning's propaganda messaging. The weasely little shitbag
Surely the met will have to do something, maybe, eventually, possibly
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1485697061920161793?t=g3dAnUrqc58x9zT1CR6slQ&s=19
Pratorian guard more like...
Nadine is the mast...
Boris is finally *ed...
Gove is 100% behind him with a pointy sharp thing...
Talk about fulfilling the expectations of the electorate... the ones who didn't vote for the *
CrisL - and that is why it will be his downfall. the public at large can see the wrongdoing and contrast it with their own behaviour in a way that the other scandals do not resonate
I know that this is by far and away not the worst thing that Johnson has done as PM but for me it is cutting through emotionally a bit more than many of the others.
My birthday’s in late May. I remember on my birthday in 2020 I got a Facebook video that a friend had made and lots of other friends had contributed to. I live alone and had been working from home since March and it had been getting to me a bit and it was a wonderful thing to receive…
…But apparently it would have been fine to say “**** the lockdown restrictions” and have a get together after all.
It's properly hit home with me for similar reasons. I had my 40th birthday during one of the lockdowns and wasn't allowed to see any of my friends on it, which was tough as I was unemployed, live on my own and the only people I could see as per the rules was my parents who I was acting as carer for. I was crying out for any other company at that point and was very low emotionally, dangerously so in fact. So to read that he had a birthday party in the middle of all of this has made me even more angry about all of this despite me seething about it all already.
If this doesn't bring him down then nothing will.
Well, around the time our PM was blowing out the candles, sputtering his covid breath around a room full of people I was attending my mother's funeral.
On Skype, home alone, didn't get to see any family until the rules changed sometime later.
I'm not particularly angry with the fly tipped sofa, I always knew he was a c. I just want to see the law and the fking police to start doing its' / their job, (and I'm referring to the ppe contract corruption as well.)
I remember a couple of Thatcher's ministers ended up doing a bit of bird, about time some of these villans became guests of her majesty.
Awfully nice of Sue Gray to do Cressida Dick's job for her.just a shame she wasn't given a set of handcuffs.
Every time that bag of custard opens its cakehole we get a pork pie.
he's going with "i was a mugged"
should be fun to see who does the morning tv round tomorrow morning.
They sent Shapps to Today on Radio 4.
Apparently they need Sue Gray to get the facts, even thought the facts about the birthday are known (and confirmed by No 10.)
But the PM has been achieving a lot so it doesn't really matter that "mistakes have been made"..
Pathetic.
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I just want to see the law and the f***king police to start doing its’ / their job
But the police are doing their job, they are giving evidence to a civil service enquiry, on a matter that they refused to investigate, to which they were witness, to which they might investigate if the enquiry finds evidence (to which they were witness).
Sorry to for your loss.
@franksinatra has absolutely nailed it, and I thought pretty much the same...
Shapps/Green/Stockheath/Fox sent out to lie for the chief liar... just the same old chaff being dropped... trying to focus on the fact that there weren't 30 people (so... there were what, 29... it was more than two... so irrelevant)... and lots more of the same old...
https://twitter.com/spittingcat/status/1485890746108493826?s=20
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Rather than "a number of parties", it's starting to look like life at Downing Street was one great big party with occasional work breaks - presumably to recover from the hangover.
Grant Schapps (or whatever his name is today) dancing on the head of a pin, tying himself up in semantics to try and defend the indefensible.
It does amaze me how these people can go out and publicly debase themselves in the service of a man who would watch them bleed to death in a gutter without raising a finger to help them? A man who demands loyalty but has betrayed every single person he's ever had any dealings with
Peter Bone on Newsnight is going to have a cardiac if he doesn’t calm down
Just watched that on iPlayer, it was quite a sight.
We really are living through real life The Thick of It.
What I haven't heard the journalists/interviewers push back on yet is the comments that have come from all of these parties that "they work together in the same space all day, anyway".......so what!?
We had to split our workplace up. Those who could work from home had to do that.
Those who had to go into the office could not meet in groups of more than two.
If you had to speak to a colleague, you did it over Teams. If you really had to be at their desk, it was no more than two people & you had to keep your mask on.
At lunch/breaks, people could not sit together. You had to stay at your desk if office based. Staff in production had to sit on their own in the canteen area, where all the tables had been re-arranged & spaced out, to avoid unnecessary mixing.
We even had to re-arrange production schedules to minimise the number of people working on our machines at any one time, so they weren't coming into close contact.
There was no mixing unless absolutely unavoidable. And after work there was certainly no gathering for a relaxing drink or standing around eating cake & celebrating people's birthdays!
I even felt a bit guilty chatting to my neighbour while he stood in his front garden & I stayed in mine.
These people are arseholes. Complete & utter arseholes. I am not sure what is worse; that they knew it was all wrong, but did it anyway & are now trying to lie their way out of it. Or that they genuinely thought it was within the rules (I don't believe this is the case, they just thought they could get away with it - much like the expenses scandal all those years ago).
this....
is turning into...
What I haven’t heard the journalists/interviewers push back on yet is the comments that have come from all of these parties that “they work together in the same space all day, anyway”…….so what!?
Radio 4 this morning did just that on the today program. Focus was very much on the details Confirmed by No 10. The usual wait of Sue Gray waffle.
I'm trying to work out how big that room is to be able to fit 30 socially distanced people in it. All our room capacities were massively reduced during COVID and any sharing of food was prohibited so no home baking, cakes for birthdays, leaving do's, no shared takeaways etc. I think as restrictions eased we're now allowed some shared food but everything must be individually wrapped so there's been the odd box of celebrations /heroes/mini rolls made an appearance.
if Peter "Gaslighter" Bone is the best they could do Johnsons days are numbered.
Sadly , if there was a general election tomorrow, most Tories would still vote for Johnson. My FiL, a lovely bloke, but a dyed in the wool Tory, certainly would.
My FiL, a lovely bloke, but a dyed in the wool Tory, certainly would.
Yep, having that discussion with one of the partners (a GP!) at the practice yesterday, there's pretty impressive levels of denial going on, he'd certainly vote Tory and more likely than not, Johnson
You know you've been Banjo'ed when the best people you can send in to open the batting are Crassus Ignoramus and Preposterous Syrupus..
I’m trying to work out how big that room is to be able to fit 30 socially distanced people in it.
I've been in. Essentially exactly the size you'd imagine for a 30-people meeting room, but most of it is taken up by a very large table. Quite long and thin, with a bit of room at the door end to mingle.
There's some arab swords on a table on one side and a fireplace on the other, so you have to squeeze past people to get from one end to the other. (#humblebrag over 😉 )
Nooooo. Dougal does not deserve that!
The good thing about the older traditional Tory voter is that there are less of them around on a daily basis due to Covid and the dismantling of the NHS. The irony of their expedited demise is lost on them cos it's all Corbyn's fault
Sadly , if there was a general election tomorrow, most Tories would still vote for Johnson. My FiL, a lovely bloke, but a dyed in the wool Tory, certainly would.
I just asked my tory voting Johnson fan brexiteer relative if she had changed her mind on any of it. She said she had not. Thats the bit I find weird.
The sad thing is there seems to be plenty of younger Tory voters replacing them. It seems for some people a bumbling fool = relatable = good politician = gets my vote
She said she had not. Thats the bit I find weird.
I'm not surprised. People aren't rational, and the more you criticise them for being wrong (either directly or inadvertently) the less likely they are to admit they were wrong.
Grant Schapps (or whatever his name is today)
Grant Schnapps?
Cressida Dick confirms Met police will investigate Downing Street parties
Finally!
But now the sue gray report ant be published if its part of a police investigation?
Grant Schapps (or whatever his name is today) dancing on the head of a pin, tying himself up in semantics to try and defend the indefensible.
"Internet Fraudster Grant Shapps" I think.
But now the sue gray report ant be published if its part of a police investigation?
I wondered if this would happen, report won't be published and who knows how long it will take for the Met to say there is insufficient evidence?
But now the sue gray report ant be published if its part of a police investigation?
Yes chances are its going to be punted far into the future. So nice work by the met there. I am sure they will get the pat on the back from Johnson they so richly deserve.
'Rishi Sunak...briefly attended but sources stressed that he has 'not been invited'.' Hmmmm.
I just asked my tory voting Johnson fan brexiteer relative if she had changed her mind on any of it. She said she had not. Thats the bit I find weird.
Unfortunately I have many many tory voters around here and most of them express solidarity and support for Bozza. They believe that anyone criticising Bozza are being unfair and mean. They claim Bozza has done his best, delivered vaccines and is working he's way through Brexit. I simply despair and no longer engage in any sort of political conversation with them, I will add that they are generally pleasant and engaging people that I'm happy to spend time with.
Yes chances are its going to be punted far into the future. So nice work by the met there. I am sure they will get the pat on the back from Johnson they so richly deserve.
Yep, it sounds like a good thing - oh the Met are investigating at last! - but it's another distraction technique at this point. Can't publish an independent inquiry while there's a criminal investigation going on. Met will take months and months to find "limited evidence of wrongdoing" or something similar and conclude that there's no point in any further action as it's not in the public interest by which time the Sue Grey report will be a footnote in the history books, if it ever makes it to publication.
‘Rishi Sunak…briefly attended but sources stressed that he has ‘not been invited’.’ Hmmmm.
As far as gatecrashing parties goes that is not a good one to gatecrash
The best thing is... when both reports are finished... the Gray one will say Johnson lied though his teeth, and broke the rules... but the Met one will say that they won't be prosecuting... and Johnson will focus on the second... "there was no wrong doing, the Met have cleared me".
Other politicians and ministers have resigned / stood aside whilst under police investigation.
What are the odds?
What are the odds?
Slim to none, sadly.
Is there one of those perfect German words (like schadenfreude) that means
“I’d like to swear, but I’ve already used up all my good ones and I’ve run out of ways to really express how I feel about how utterly shit this whole thing is”
They believe that anyone criticising Bozza are being unfair and mean. They claim Bozza has done his best
Argh I particularly hate this line.
Have you suggested to them, that if this really is 'his best', then he's not up to the job?
Don't think Tony Blair stood down when he was questioned by the police.
Backpfeifengesicht
"a slappable face"
Argh I particularly hate this line.
Yes. I know I would be shit at several jobs so guess what I dont apply for them.
Or to put it in tory terms. This isnt primary school sports day where everyone gets a prize for trying.
Yep Gray report delayed
met will say ' couldnt find any evidence'
then Johnson will claim he doesnt need to release Gray report as Met have cleared him
https://twitter.com/politicshome/status/1485932075526103042
The Sue Gray report will be a whitewash. Waste of time, as are most things of this nature where corrupt politicians etc are involved. Nothing genuine or sincere ever comes out of government these days.
A large part of me is really hoping her report is left on a bus
Preposterous Syrupus..
O.K. fair play, that got a genuine LOL out of me.
I just asked my tory voting Johnson fan brexiteer relative if she had changed her mind on any of it. She said she had not. Thats the bit I find weird.
Consistent polling data (bourne out by the North Shropshire by election) would suggest that, whilst we all know a few diehard Tories, there aren't enough of them out there to guarantee a future GE victory when BJ's popularity is cratering so spectacularly.
And all of the potential replacements for Johnson have their own pitfalls.
One for Binners’ Monty Python collection…
https://twitter.com/mrjonnewton/status/1485930387121577987?s=21
So the Met are going to investigate, triggering a pause in the publication of the Grey report (as indicated in here terms of reference). I assume No 10 invited the Met in in order to achieve this. A desperate measure.
gresyspoke - that bothers me not one jot as all it does it continue the crisis and makes it longer damaging the tory party further and deeper.
Rees-Mogg is right though. They are certainly going from strength to strength. Its just sadly not positive strengths.
does it continue the crisis and makes it longer damaging the tory party further and deeper.
That or the media get bored and go onto the next subject. Depends on how many more parties get leaked out.
I agree tj - we can only assume that the alternative was even worse from Johnson's perspective. Presumably he got wind of what was in the report and it was damning.
One for Binners’ Monty Python collection
He is a high flyer in the ministry for silly walks.
You really had to laugh at Mogg calling wee Dougie Ross a lightweight(shitehouse would have been more accurate),this from a man that took his nanny on a campaign trail in Fife,then needed Henry McLeish to save him from the locals.🤣🤣
edit: nope, image not working. 🙁
I'm sure that kicking the Grey Report into the long grass for Boris will earn Cressida her place in the Lords.
Thats the normal payoff, isn't it?
Its all about day to day survival for him, and a journalists take on what amounts to survival: obfuscate and dodge and then if the media storm passes he's in the clear
I think Kimbers is right though: the Met police will clear and then the Sue Gray report will never see the light of day. And it'll be over a matter of weeks which is a lifetime in BJ survival world. We could have a full on WW3 by then so they can bury any bad news
"The government is going from strength to strength"
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
The police cannot clear anyone. All they can do is decide to prosecute or not. If they decide not to prosecute it would be either "not in the public interest" or "insufficient evidence". Either decision would be subject to legal challenge via judicial review, I think. It wouldn't go away. Only the magistrates can "clear" Boris/No 10, which requires a decision to prosecute.
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That was exactly my thought. Quick WhatsApp to Cessy Cressy and he's bought himself a few months.
It's not even the police who decide to prosecute or not. They investigate and present the case/evidence to prosecutor (CPS or PF).
The ****s going to get away with it isn't he?
Let's hope Cummings has got even more dirt, or is he not allowed to say anything else?
Not sure if it's dawned on labour and tory rebels that the normal rules don't apply. Johnson, the government, the cabinet office, and the met are all in on the conspiracy to keep him in power. They're not going to remove him with normal procedures, so Starmer/labour need to do something else. Calling for a vote of no confidence in the commons would be a start. When that fails lead his MPs out of parliament and don't let them back until Johnson is gone. Mobilise the public sector unions to organise protests and strikes. Get people out on the streets. Of course he won't do any of this because he supports and is part of the same establishment that is keeping Johnson and his cronies in power. The whole system is rotten to the core.
I think if there's one thing we do know about Cummings, it's he's not particularly bothered about what he is, or isn't allowed to do.
Calling for a vote of no confidence in the commons would be a start.
Utterly pointless.
Bozza would defeat any such move and that would leave him to do as he pleases for another 12 months or so. We are stuck with Bozza and his inept colleagues until someone in the tory Party emerges as a viable election winner. All thanks to the populist, Brexit voting, red wall constituents that delivered such as resounding margin of victory in the last G.E.
I'm starting to think that Labour/SKS is possibly doing the right thing by not pushing too hard and allowing Bozza stumble on like a drunk leaving Whetherspoons at midnight. The longer Bozza is in place the more damage he ultimately does to The Party. Labour/SKS could never damage the tories like Bozza is!