let's all have a big fight. No biting or kicking in the knackers.
I would say Master Of Puppets but the production on all the 80's Metallica albums is so bad it really winds me up.
I would say Number of the Beast, and I really really love Maiden but let's be honest - it's a bit patchy.
if not Appetite for Destruction, then what?
Round 1:
I would say Master Of Puppets but the production on all the 80's Metallica albums is so bad it really winds me up.
You'd be wrong though becuase Ride the Lightning is better anyway
The Almighty - blood fire and love was a great album, not sure it would be the biggest or best but a good one.
Not sure I can add anything to the above.
Rainbow Rising
Heaven and Hell
AC/DC Back in Black is the boring answer I suppose.
Can I have 'No Sleep til Hammersmith'?
If not I'll say 'The Real Thing'
Iron Maiden - Killers
Just for it's album sleeve!
And some good tunes too!
Sure Rainbow Rising was in the 70's....
Anthrax - Among the Living
or any one of South of Heaven, Reign in Blood or Seasons in the Abyss
Rainbow Rising
1976.
rusty trowel - MemberSeasons in the Abyss
1990
Master of Puppets or Seventh Son for me, but it's a bit before my time tbh! Don't think you get the same effect when you first hear an album so long after it came out.
Can hardly believe Reign in Blood came out in 86! Not sure I could call it a great album but the standouts are standouty.
Heaven and Hell
AC/DC Back in Black is the boring answer I suppose.
Wrong as well as boring then
How are AC/DC metal ??
They, themselves, tell you they are rock in roughly every fourth song 🙂
Ac/DC is rock not metal (well 12 bar blues really)
I would probably go for Screaming for Vengeance by priest
Edit: double post!
Ro5eyWrong as well as boring then
How are AC/DC metal ??
They are definitely more of a hard rock band. Angus would tell you they're a rock and roll band. But If you can't count their music alongside metal then you might as well rule out a lot of other bands - Maiden, Priest, Dio, GnR etc etc etc.....even Sabbath to an extent, none of them really "Metal" in the current sense of the word. Just classic rock.
Back in Black is the best Hard Rock/Heavy Metal/ Classic Rock album of the 80s.
metal? rock? nu metal? gunge? dont go there man, if its got a loud guitar its fair game.
For me its Whitesnake 1987. I dont care if you dont think its metal, get over yourselves.
Reign in Blood
So Far, So Good...So What!
Master of Puppets
Not sure I could do without those
Can hardly believe Reign in Blood came out in 86! Not sure I could call it a great album but the standouts are standouty.
see now this is a tricky one. how much does consistency count for - or how much should one amazing track carry the rest of the album?
Most influential would be Kill em All, it really kicked it up a level.
I dont suppose you can ignore any of the NWOBHM bands, Maiden, Saxon, Tygers of Pan Tang 😆 Wrathchild here so ridiculous they were brilliant.
Scorpions were hard at it as were AC/DC Judas Priest
Very hard to say what was best, how about Accept Balls to the Wall 😆 No sleep till Hammersmith is overlooked.
Wow way to many
[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/appetite-for-destruction-wins-best-album-of-all-time-if-were-honest-2014062688000 ]Daily Mash nail it.[/url]
Number of the Beast,
Thanks, you juts helped me decide what will help me through 4 x 10 min FTP intervals later today. 🙂
So Far..So Good..So What!
but, but, but.... that cover of Anarchy in the UK 🙁
AfD is 62 in rolling stones all time top 500 albums.
Just saying like...
I dont suppose you can ignore any of the NWOBHM bands,
Cf. Hysteria.
How are AC/DC metal ??
In the 80's they were very much considered a heavy [b]metal[/b] band, i presume you weren't old enought or into duran duran. what you pigeon hole them in 2014 is meaningless.
Anyway, Back in Black!
NIN Pretty hate machine just sneaks in at 1989.
Predictable answer: Reign in Blood
Correct answer: Darkness Descends by Dark Angel.
GnR isnt metal enough for me, more like AOR, Ride the Lighting wees all over it
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Basically, too many to choose from...
Slayer - Reign in blood
Antrhax - Spreading the disease
Metallica - Ride the lightning
Tankard - Chemical invasion
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease
Megadeth - So Far, So Good...So what! (although Wake up Dead is their best track)
I just dropped off half the LPs listed above at the local charity shop...
As for the best, a toss up between Def Leppard Hysteria or Whitesnake 1987.
In the 80's they were very much considered a heavy metal band
+1 peoples memories are fading. Most of the albums mentioned so far, were at the time called Thrash Metal. Not Metal. Get over it.
Stevet1 - MemberNIN Pretty hate machine just sneaks in at 1989.
Hah. It could come out tomorrow and sound new, that's ridiculous. I'd have guessed mid 90s.
Whitesnake 1987
Ha, forgot about that one! 'Still of the Night' blew me away when it came out.
Aide memoire:
Lots of classics up there but I'll add something less well known:
King's X - Gretchen goes to Nebraska (1989), their second album.
Fantastic harmonies, musicianship and other-worldly-ness.
Rainbow Rising
just checked this out. Proper good fun!
But is it overly nerdy to say that i really, really enjoyed the drum production? Wish they'd leave more room for the drums these days. Modern metal albums invariably sacrifice everything for the guitars, leaving just some thin weedy tippy tappy nonsense. e.g.
footflaps - MemberI just dropped off half the LPs listed above at the local charity shop...
Er....which one?
I'm going for this one.
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Aide memoire:
Thank you, that bought back some memories, and I'm now off to fill my Spotified devices to the brim.
However, some serious omissions from that list...
Voivod - Killing Technology
Reign in blood was my favourite at the time, that might change with some historical perspective though...
Well, as the thread has shown, first you have to have the argument about what is, or isn't metal - bands like Sabbath, Deep Purple and Zep have consistently denied the label over the years, for example. And then what about bands where there's a "metal" element, but the overall sound is more or different, so Faith No More, NIN, Jane's Addiction, for example?
And once you resolve that, how are you defining 'best'? Most successful? Most awards? Best distillation of influences up to that point, or most innovative / pushing things forward?
Maybe I'm over-thinking it?
My choice would be Jane's Addiction - Nothing Shocking. Maybe not the most listened to, or the most listenable, or the most hard rockin', but for its influence on what came after, and in particular for opening ears to other ways to use "metal" than in what was becoming, at that point in time an increasingly one dimensional genre.
I'd have to sat Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets. Love Reign in Blood too, but there's a couple of 'meh' tracks compared to Angel of Death and Raining Blood.
Most of my favourite albums are from the 90s - Chaos AD, Seasons in the Abyss, The Gathering, Sound of White Noise, Burn my Eyes, Demanufacture, Draconian Times, Far Beyond Driven, Astrocreep 2000. Those were the days...
Most of my favourite albums are from the 90s - Chaos AD, Seasons in the Abyss, The Gathering, Sound of White Noise, Burn my Eyes, Demanufacture, Draconian Times, Far Beyond Driven, Astrocreep 2000. Those were the days...
funnily enough i've revisited half of those this week!
i was surprised how weak Demanufacture sounds today (i LOVED it at the time) and also how good Burn My Eyes sounded - thought that would have aged badly.
And Draconian Times! Sounds so 90's it hurts, but actually pretty strong musically 🙂
Any Jane's addiction album!
Napalm death "scum"
Slayer "reign in blood"
Wasp "live in the raw" (makes me giggle)
Bolt thrower "in battle there is no law"
Extreme noise terror "holocaust in your head"
Disagree about nin sounding timeless as its soooooo dated it hurts. Ministry fare a bit better in the age test though
Napalm death "scum"
Pah, not a patch on the "Lawnmover Death" with "Watch out Grandma, here come's a lawn mower"
Comes down to 'What is metal?'
Suicidal Tendencies: one of my favorites, fairly original, and rather underrated. But not really your classic metal.
Jane's Addiction: Nothing shocking is one of my top 10 live albums. Again, fairly original, but what with covers of the Stones and Velvet Underground, not really your classic metal.
FnM: Sorry, what about 'we care alot'? Just because they covered war pigs does not make it metal.
I reckon, and with all that in mind, it's got to be [b]Number of the Beast[/b] really hasn't it. Or maybe [b]Ride the Lightning[/b].
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Saxon - The Eagle has landed
Helloween - Live in the UK
C'mon....... Really.....
1984, Van Halen.
Thread closed.
How are AC/DC metal ??
70s stuff isn't but Back in Black is for sure - would be interesting to try and find a list of best Metal albums - or best selling ones - that excludes it
http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/index.php?id=6
For me it's a close call between Metallica - "Master Of Puppets" & Slayer - "Reign In Blood". (Special mention also to Iron Maiden - Powerslave, as that's the album that introduced me to metal and has some of their best work on it too. (Plus a couple of filler tracks, sadly.))
I think "Reign In Blood" just edges it. It was (and still is) the best thrash / speed metal album [u]ever[/u]. It's just perfect. Slayer may as well have hung up their guitars after that one. I don't see how it could be bettered and they certainly never came close again.
not sure i qualify as an old punk (so didnt listen to most of them), but the only 2 i liked around then were iron maidens debut album with paul di'anno, and motorhead live at hammersmith (think that was on gold vinyl?).
do i win?
No. In a way metal is the antithesis of punk therefore your opinion is highly unlikely to be correct so don't sweat it though!
Punk cleared out Prog Rock and made way for NWOBHM. Maybe.
That would be Lawnmower Deth, footflaps.
Master of Puppets by a mile. The 90's was a better decade for metal on the whole though.
BAT-A-RAY!
Ooooh tough one this.
Master of Puppets was one of the first albums I bought just as I was getting into metal.
Hard to look beyond it and it still stands up now - 28 years on.
South of Heaven still gets the occasional blast too.
FNM 'The Real Thing' was/is still a quality listen...
Prong - Primitive Origins
Oh yeah…forgot to mention…Def Leppard are shit 😉
Lawnmower Deth 🙂 sadly Oooh Crikey was 1990 so misses the cut!
I very much love Acid Reign - [i]The Fear[/i]
Mine would be Reign in Blood, Slayer, Powerslave, Iron Maiden & Among the Living, Anthrax.
Special mention to "Stormtroopers Of Death - Speak English Or Die"
Oh yeah…forgot to mention…Def Leppard are shit
Two day ban for negative use of the forum.
From a purely technical point of view it has to be Heaven and Hell or Mob Rules. Take [i]the[/i] metal band and add [i]the[/i] metal singer and you can't lose 😀
(May I add that many of the suggestions above are probably valid too)
LS - MemberFrom a purely technical point of view it has to be Heaven and Hell or Mob Rules. Take the metal band and add the metal singer and you can't lose
There's just a lot of weak songs on those albums though. Having said that, Heaven and Hell, Children of the Sea, Sign of the Southern Cross...great songs.
Couldn't agree more, just looking at it from an objective point of view (I do love Heaven and Hell, massive Ac/Dc, Metallica, Slayer fan but AfD would edge it simply because it's the album that got me into music when I was 10).
Can I stick in guitar****yconcept-tastic Operation:Mindcrime by Queensryche (if we're going to ignore what is or isn't metal)
and talking of diva-esque lead men, Skid Row.
in all seriousness though, you'd have to start getting very pigeonholey if you were to narrow it down.
good shout for Almighty, blood fire and love, cracking album, it's filed under 'metal for motorcycles' 😉
Maidens Killers has to be there, nice well rounded production, good sound.
but yes, it's not appetite.. bloody hated GnR when that came out, but then I realised I was in denial and the hype was justified, well for one album anyway.
Appetite For Destruction is a fantastic album.
Gotta say there are some great suggestions here.
Heart says NOTB, but a great call up there about Queensryche too.
Sabbath did nothing of note in the 80s (I love Dio but not in Sabbath).
Just missing out, 1991, Nirvana - Nevermind.
BTW - the new Foo Fighters single - ripping the riff from Holy Diver right off.
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Anthrax - Among the Living
Anvil - Metal on Metal
Sadly Cowboy's from Hell is just a few months out.
Oooooo, lots to choose from, some excellent choices guys, BUT, mine are-
Magnum "Storytellers Night"
Queensryche "Operation - Mindcrime"
Iron Maiden - Live after Death
if restricted to studio albums then Metallica - Master of Puppets, Slayer - Reign in Blood or DRI - Crossover.
Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a Madman were both pretty special too.
Everything after that was pretty dire though.
Oh yeah…forgot to mention…Def Leppard are shitTwo day ban for negative use of the forum.
Surely it should be a lifetime ban for such a serious slur....
Magnum "Storytellers Night"
Queensryche "Operation - Mindcrime"
Good call on both those....
off to see Magnum for the third time this year in December...
Footflaps, nice one. Saw them in N.Wales in March at Buckley. Great band, got loads of their stuff.
Another call for Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime...
Odyssey by Yngwie Malmsteen
Oh yeah…forgot to mention…Def Leppard are shit
Two day ban for negative use of the forum.
I hope that's for mentioning "Def Lepard" in the context of a metal thread and not for the FACT that they are actually pop?
Otherwise, physician heal thyself.