I was once called an Alfie male. Not a lot of people know that.
Why male? Isn't alpha-male just getting popular usage now as a form of anti-feminist bullshit used by insecure men feeling the erosion of the privilege that simply being male provides?
i thought 'mens movement' was typically followed by opening the loo window and a 'i'd give it a few minutes if i were you luv' type warnings
Petersen certainly has his flaws, his extreme dieting, his views on climate change are worrying but overall I think he's a good egg who genuinely seems to care for human kind.
Andrew Hate on the other hand is a total tool, quite possibly a diagnosable psychopath, at the very least an uber narcissist, who pushes vile misogyny and disingenuous business models to beat 'The Matrix' to impressionable boys and men. I mentor traumatised kids in my job and his influence is certainly evident in some of the lads I work with.
I feel like a true Alpha is able to out perform most others in most pursuits but is able to lead and manage relationships effectively too.
think he’s a good egg who genuinely seems to care for human kind.
Ermmm. Not in the slightest unless you consider humankind to be white men.
He is a vile misogynist. His views are divisive to say the least. Its all about the grift and his constituency is inadequate white men. He cares for one thing only. How much money he can make from this
Gamma here. According to a online test 🙂
You are a wise and experienced person. Many suggest that an adept Alpha turns into Gamma when the time comes. You seem to be an adventurous, eager, and self-aware man who cares about his actions’ consequences. One of the loveliest things about you is that you are empathetic towards others. Unlike an Alpha male, you value people’s emotions, and you avoid hurting them.
I always just assumed it was a leader and usage has changed quite recently to describe a massive **** of a human being. Going to take a test, find out what I am!
Delta according to a test. Some of the questions were a bit shit though to be fair. It’s all psychological bollocks any way.
Delta males are somewhat resigned and slow to trust. But that is usually the result of their traumatic or sad experiences in the past. You find it difficult to solve problems through talking. And you prefer actions over words. Being lonely is your favorite way of recharging your battery. But keep in mind that Deltas can sometimes be self-sabotaging, too. So, maybe it’s time to be kinder to yourself and bring in some self-love to your life.
Thanks @tjagain I was going to make exactly that criticism of Peterson, you’ve saved me the trouble
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/being-called-alpha/page/2/#post-12686381
Ok, back up your critique with something tangible, a quote of his perhaps that you fine disagreeable.
Corvette, girls go berserk, totally alpha.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1614241243650985989
The most alpha male is surely this guy
Although I'm still not sure the account isn't a parody, but it may well be genuine 😱
https://twitter.com/NickAdamsinUSA?t=i1mrm7RAmTX2oiAAlMo84g&s=09
https://twitter.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1613751106554957824?t=Rkv8bjBheHKUJDhmzeO4MQ&s=19
I thought an Alpha was someone who rides a steel HT?
Is this like the myers-brigg test for the 2020’s?
Petersen certainly has his flaws, his extreme dieting, his views on climate change are worrying but overall I think he’s a good egg who genuinely seems to care for human kind
Peterson is a proper loon, his use of 'science' to justify his arguments is absolutely hilarious
Someone who is that confused/dishonest really can't be trusted
Also there's simply no excusing this
https://twitter.com/White_Janissary/status/1612842807957520387?t=ylBIkVSGVCNcRZjZD_px-g&s=19
https://twitter.com/davidpakmanshow/status/1610804789650014208?t=5xBHLeokt6Rj6MAlKrKZhg&s=19
Is this like the myers-brigg test for the 2020’s?
So equally worthless then?
Peterson is a proper loon
Some start off okay, then get sucked into the manosphere bullshit and realise they make more money and have more influence that road.
Story as old as time.
Some like Tate make that a deliberate aim, capitalising on it and selling misogyny as masculinity. Which IMO makes them more detestable.
****s the lot of them, they care little for their subjects as long as the grift is working and the money keeps flowing.
See also Ant Middleton. And a bunch of American Conservative mouthpieces.
Peterson is a master of throwing out an hour-long word salad, packed full of non-sequiturs, bathed with convulted phrasing and long words - he's been described as "the stupid person's idea of an intelligent person". If actually try to follow along with his "arguments" you quickly realise they're non-sensical, which makes me at least think he's just a cynical grifter who's latched onto a part of society that feels left out and is susceptible to his charms.
I thought an Alpha was someone who rides a steel HT?
can’t be because they’re 99% of what I’ve owned and rode over the years. Surely an alpha would have the latest and best tech so a Carbon Santa Cruz long travel eBike for riding the canal towpaths.
It recently came to light that as Peterson became famous he essentially ignored and abandoned his case load of the patients from his private practice. He either got his wife to answer their emails querying his lack of availability, often claimed he was too sick to see them, when in fact he was out of town either filming or on TV shows, or they received an email auto answer that asked them to write emails [in support of Peterson] to people criticising him. There are even patients who claim that he discussed their treatment with other patients.
Regardless of all the other douche-baggery that he's indulged in over the years, that alone should clear up the doubts of anyone as the sort of man he is.
Yeah, omg, man in neglects/gives up work after winning the lottery/becoming famous shocker.
When you're a doctor and you have patients, you cannot just "give up work" Or the very least, don't lie to them about why you're not able to treat them anymore.
Not even if you die?
He's not dead, he just couldn't be arsed
Man comes on public forum to discuss whether he is 'alpha', definitely not alpha behaviour!! 😉
🙂
I wasn't aware doctors had to go on practising forever into eternity. Or is it just until their last patient dies? Will need to stay healthy, good job they're a doctor!
To be honest, I don't know enough about JP to comment much further. I thought he was an ex university lecturer, and before that, a psychologist. Didn't know he was still treating patients. From the little I've seen of him he comes across as moderately interesting/harmless, I certainly don't see the EVILNESS. He came to my attention after that carcrash C4 interview, watched a few vids of him on Youtube/JRE before getting bored and moving on. What's he done now to upset the STW massive? Come out in support of Brexit or something?
Although I’m still not sure the account isn’t a parody, but it may well be genuine
That guy has to be running the longest deep-cover satire operation in Twitter history. He is truly all-in. The bugger has written conservative-leaning books, given speeches at Turning Point, even started a patriotic non-profit foundation to promote american values.
But according to Wiki, as a deputy mayor back in Oz as a youngster, he tried to introduce a policy to ban pigeons from his town...
He may just be spectactularly unhinged. It's fantastic.
To be honest, I don’t know enough about JP to comment much further
hmmmm
From the little I’ve seen of him he comes across as moderately interesting/harmless, I certainly don’t see the EVILNESS.
as parent to a non-binary kid, I think he is a foul human being. A bit of reading and I'd hope you'd agree. "I don't see the evilness" doesn't stand up if you haven't looked.
I read through that Independent article and see no evidence of evilness. It seems to have cherry-picked some fragments out of a what, three hour? Joe Rogan podcast. Without watching the entire show there's no way to know what the context is.
Accepted. My threshold has been triggered previously and I am now sensitised to JP and his views. I went from the headline and first few lines - being Trans is a 'contagion' etc. but most of what is in there is attributed to Joe Rogan. Another hateful individual, IMO.
He has a history of deadnaming, misgendering, refusing to use preferred pronouns even when corrected, etc. All topics which firmly label him. I could link further articles but they would be 'reports of' because I won't watch his videos or FB and put my traffic his way.
I urge you, do some more reading. If your views resonate with his, or you don't have concerns over them, that's fine - we are all entitled to our views. Including me with mine, that he is an evil influence.
I wasn’t aware doctors had to go on practising forever into eternity.
It's a good job no one has suggested they do the isn't it? All they have to is don't be shitty to their patients.
which makes me at least think he’s just a cynical grifter who’s latched onto a part of society that feels left out and is susceptible to his charms.
When he was just entering the main(ish) stream he did an podcast with Sam Harris which was complete word salad.
i did try listening, helped by the fact I was on a long train journey, but it was just incomprehensible waffle.
Harris kept trying to pin him down but he was basically punching mist.
They had round 2 which apparently went better but that time I had more options available and so quickly switched.
So I think he is genuine as it goes but its just his being genuine is nuts.
So equally worthless then?
at uni did some psychology courses and one of the professors dedicated some classes to the various "psychology" tests.
Allegedly it was how to recognise pseudo psychology but in reality it was a "if companies are stupid enough to use them then this is how to game them" class.
No need for a test, just read through the type descriptions and should be able to know which type you are (as long as you are self aware enough)
I am somewhere between Omega and Delta. Not sure what I am going to do with this information but for work purposes I am an Alpha, right, as that is what 99% of companies seem to think is best and promote accordingly (which is the reason they end up with a load of narcissists that the people who work for them hate but can't seen that changing any time soon)
Test wouldn't even work for me, just throws up a blank page at the end. Obviously can't work me out 🤣
According to Wikipedia Peterson had some health issues:
Throughout 2019 and 2020, Peterson suffered health problems in the aftermath of severe benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome. In 2021, he published his third book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life, resigned from the University of Toronto, and returned to podcasting. In 2022, Peterson signed a content distribution deal with conservative media company The Daily Wire.
Sounds a bit grim and I wish him good health. It would be slightly interesting to see if his output has changed as a result, but I am not going to read it all to find out.
it would be slightly interesting to see if his output has changed as a result
His tweets / retweets pop up on my feed from time to time. In the areas that concern me, not to any notable degree. Still a *****
I am somewhere between Omega and Delta. Not sure what I am going to do with this information
I’ll call Chuck Norris see if we can join Delta Force with him.
Surely Chuck Norris is Alpha?
Chuck ain’t down with the corporate bullshit. Definitely a lone Wolf and err…Delta force.
well seeing as the whole premise of alpha males/male classification is bunkum, i've used an equally accurate system based on some made up toot and i'm a hufflepuff
I'm pretty sure we could come up with our own system based on types of bikes.
I reckon I'm an Inbred.
Erm, hang on, let me think this through.
I'm an old spesh.
Hmm.
That would mean I’m Cotic 🤔