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Hi I'm in the market for a new / refurb iPad. Both the 5th and 6th gen iPads are available with the main difference being Apple Pencil support. This isn't a big deal for me but one of my kids is getting creative and it might be useful for her, however prodding a tablet with a pen isn't new so wondered if I'd benefit from Apple Pencil support or whether any of the other £5-£100 Amazon alternatives would fit the bill for someone getting into creative activities on an iPad. I don't know what the key attributes of a decent pen / stylus are and how much 'native' Apple device support might offer over third-party when it comes to usability and compatibility with other apps.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:00 am
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Places like CEX and Game tend to have used Apple Pencils fairly cheap (compared to rrp)

Mine was around 50% of rrp and brand new in the box.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:02 am
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I think Logitech do an alternative, but I could be wrong on the make; I did read a review of a similar stylus for the iPad that had a very good review, but it was a couple of months or so ago.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:14 am
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Hi scuttler,

The apple pencil is significantly better in use than any alternative. It has undetectable lag/response, very satisfying to use with apps (pressure sensitivity, using on its side etc), and has bullet proof BT connect ability. Only complaints I have is the charging solution of having it sticking out of the lighting port in the iPad is really not ideal (though it is fast), and that the gen 1 Apple Pencil is too long. 2nd gen one, which only works with the most recent iPad Pros, cures both issues.

I started, years ago way before Apple Pencil, using the rubber tipped things which are really very bad. Then I tried various 3rd party bluetooth options which are also severely limited in usability - either by connection issues, or lag/response time

I can imagine you spending some time with kids consistently sorting connection issues and glitches, whereas, I hate to say it, in my experience over the last 4 yrs, the Apple Pencil 'just works'


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:19 am
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I can't speak for any of the bluetooth type alternatives, but anything in the £5-20 range is likely to be just a capacitive rubber nib on a stick, which are really very poor compared to the Apple Pencil. You'd get similar results using a frozen sausage.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:23 am
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Logitech Crayon is £60 - it was only available via Apple Education (sold direct into schools, etc) but open to all now.

Charging arrangement is a bit more robust (lightning port just like an iphone), it still does all the clever palm rejection stuff, does tilt, very accurate, but doesn't have pressure sensitivity. Good summary here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/9/11/17842556/ipad-logitech-crayon-apple-pencil-stylus-review

The cheap ones are just emulating a finger press. Fine for young kids mucking about with basic drawing apps but not for writing or digital art.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 10:59 am
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Having seen my daughter's results with an apple pencil and procreate, id definitely recommend getting an iPad with pencil support.

Makes the iPad a brilliant drawing tool.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 11:00 am
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There is no equivalent check on eBay for a secondhand one.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 11:02 am
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however prodding a tablet with a pen isn’t new
Nope, but Apple Pencil is something totally different, a real game-changer IMO. Get it.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 11:20 am
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The apple pencil comes with a charging lead adaptor so you don't have to plug it into the Ipad to charge.

It is very effective.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 11:50 am
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Brill thanks all - will probably go 6th Gen + Apple Pencil.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 1:03 pm
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Plugging an Apple Pencil into the ipad to charge doesn’t charge it fully iirc.
You need to use the supplied adapter and lightning cable.
It’s in a different league to any alternative I’ve seen, we looked at cheaper ones but eventually gave in and bought the real thing.
Superb.


 
Posted : 20/08/2019 5:24 pm
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The pencil is great - but... its improved hugely by putting a matt screen protector on the iPad - provides a bit of drag for the tip makes you're drawing / writing more accurate and gives a better feel than working directly on the glass.


 
Posted : 21/08/2019 4:00 pm