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I'll let people decide for themselves.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:27 pm
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TAFKASTR - thanks - that is very clearly a drawing, done with the airbrush and pen tools.

Nice work, although not my taste 🙂

Seosamh77 - check out the highlighted speckles on the dog's nose - different. Also some fur on the nose around 5 o'clock, different. Also the right ear (left of picture) is different.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:27 pm
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I'll let people decide for themselves.

😆 That's what I was just doing.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:28 pm
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Seosamh77 - check out the highlighted speckles on the dog's nose - different.

aye bits added.

I'd want my money back if I was getting a commission, YMMV.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:30 pm
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Maybe post the same close-up of the original and drawing? If possible?


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:31 pm
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Posted : 10/10/2017 12:32 pm
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Seosamh77 - check out the highlighted speckles on the dog's nose - different. Also some fur on the nose around 5 o'clock, different. Also the right ear (left of picture) is different.

Yes but the outlines of the head, details like whiskers, tongue etc are within a pixel of the photograph.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:33 pm
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You are just confirming that it is a drawing..

Yes but the outlines of the head, details like whiskers, tongue etc are within a pixel of the photograph.

Never done any pixel-by-pixel editing? Even I've done that and I'm no artist!


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:34 pm
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If it to your eyes, carry on. not to mine.


 
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You are just confirming that it is a drawing..

Traced directly over the photograph in some art package or other.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:35 pm
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You know this has been a thing for years, right? Photorealism? It's a proper genre, has its own wiki page and everything. There's an exhibition of it in the Milwaukee Art museum, with some gigantic wall-sized ones.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:37 pm
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Aye and I can tell when it's been done from scratch, there would be a lot more differences, that clearly hasn't.


 
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You know this has been a thing for years, right? Photorealism?

Yes there was a lengthy thread about it on here a while back and how pointless it is. Nothing wrong with it as a technical exercise, especially done with traditional media, but really that is not what it is being represented as.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:40 pm
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It's either been traced or copied so closely it may as well have been.

So what? Are you trying to win arsehole points for today? Maybe if he posts up his wife's phone number you can call her and be a dick over the phone? You could go really nasty, properly evicscerate her. That'll teach her to do drawings, won't it! You'll be the big man!

Or maybe just take a look at how you come across. Some things are better left unsaid, aren't they?


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:43 pm
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molgrips
Seosamh77 - check out the highlighted speckles on the dog's nose - different. Also some fur on the nose around 5 o'clock, different. Also the right ear (left of picture) is different.
Yes but the outlines of the head, details like whiskers, tongue etc [b]are within a pixel of the photograph[/b].

That's just my bad overly, they match exactly.


 
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It's either been traced or copied so closely it may as well have been.

So what?

It's not been traced though, it's an artist filter, then bits added.


 
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It's either been traced or copied so closely it may as well have been.

So what?

So what indeed.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:45 pm
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It's not been traced though, it's an artist filter, then bits added.

No cos there are bits missing in the drawing as well as added. It's different, as you'd expect.

And in the close-up it's very clearly made up of pen strokes.

I'm out of this shit-fest.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:46 pm
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My point has been made, take what you will from it! 😆


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:47 pm
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You've accused someone of blatant and wilful deception on the internet. FFS.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:48 pm
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yip.

happy to apologize if proved wrong.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:48 pm
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Posted : 10/10/2017 12:53 pm
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Right. I've just had a word, as one not seen one started from scratch. I have seen the work involved though. She'll flick between the two for reference points. 100% not a tracing or any artistic filter though. That's my final word, you lot can argue all day about it if you want. I didn't come on here to sell them, so you can back off with the venom seosamh77

And thanks molgrips


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:54 pm
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Well, that escalated quickly.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:56 pm
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Drac. Lol. 😆


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 12:57 pm
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No venom here. Just making a point. 🙂


 
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It's either been traced or copied so closely it may as well have been.

So what? Are you trying to win arsehole points for today? Maybe if he posts up his wife's phone number you can call her and be a dick over the phone? You could go really nasty, properly evicscerate her. That'll teach her to do drawings, won't it! You'll be the big man!

Or maybe just take a look at how you come across. Some things are better left unsaid, aren't they?

i'm missed that edit. Some amount of venom right there! 😆 You on commission?


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 1:17 pm
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I blame apple products.
Turn people into right *****.


 
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Posted : 10/10/2017 1:32 pm
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Posted : 10/10/2017 1:40 pm
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i*****, shirley?


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 1:42 pm
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I was going to ask if it satisfies the Inktober rules, but as this thread seems to have morphed into a similarly bad tempered exchange I'll just let you get on with it.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 1:48 pm
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😆 conclusive.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 1:52 pm
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It's not been traced though, it's an artist filter, then bits added

Ok then, let's say for a minute she DOES trace them, which she doesn't. Which part of your statement above holds true? That is a screenshot she sent her sister (an artist) as a work in progress to ask her opinion. If it's as you say, a filter - do you think she's just gone to the trouble of erasing a bit, then adding a few pencil strokes just to appease a keyboard warrior? Get a grip sunshine


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 3:16 pm
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I think she needs to draw an angrier looking dog and give it Seosamh's address.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 3:29 pm
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It's not been traced though, it's an artist filter, then bits added
Ok then, let's say for a minute she DOES trace them, which she doesn't. Which part of your statement above holds true? That is a screenshot she sent her sister (an artist) as a work in progress to ask her opinion. If it's as you say, a filter - do you think she's just gone to the trouble of erasing a bit, then adding a few pencil strokes just to appease a keyboard warrior? Get a grip sunshine

if you say so.. 😆


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 3:41 pm
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I think she needs to draw an angrier looking dog and give it Seosamh's address.

I think she needs to stop bullshitting everyone. 😆

funny how I'm the bad guy here, I'm not the one telling porkies!


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 3:42 pm
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I think she needs to stop bullshitting everyone.
funny how I'm the bad guy here, I'm not the one telling porkies

I think you need to wind your neck in. You've not answered my point above and you're coming across as a dick, so stop feeling sorry for yourself


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 4:03 pm
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Ok she's an undiscovered genius. you win. 😆

I'm not the one showing any kind of emotion here btw. I'm just laughing at your delusion.

Now to your questions:

As for who she's trying to kid, me, you or your sister, or unsuspecting fools willing to part with their cash. I doubt i factor high in that list tbh.

My statement holds true, as she is neither tracing nor drawing that particular image free hand. (Not saying she can't draw it free hand, I'm pretty sure she could come up with a decent image, as she's skilled enough at augmenting images, just that that particular one hasn't been.)

Anyhow, nearly home time, it's been fun! 😆


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 4:09 pm
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No, it's been thoroughly unpleasant and nasty. Purely because of you.

If you really thought they were lying, the adult thing to do would be keep quiet and go to a different thread.


 
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As I say i'm not the one telling porkies, so no, I'm the effect not the cause.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 4:14 pm
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it's been fun!

A statement which I feel deserves some Mod reaction TBH, as it implies he's started all this for express cause of winding people up.

I won't be buying the cut price Apple Pencil, unless Mrs Artist needs one and I happily gift it to her to continue her hobby, she's obviously thoroughly deserving.


 
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Nope, just taking issue with the obvious nonsense of the original claim.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 4:16 pm
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Anyway I think we’ve concluded Apple Pens are worth looking at. Anymore bickering and I’ll use mine to issue some warnings.


 
Posted : 10/10/2017 4:19 pm
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Thank you Kryton

Drac - lip buttoned!


 
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