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"Disappointed in the Xr – a new phone with a 720p screen"
"Seems a strange decision"
Well not really since a 720p screen will give you an HD quality image upto about 55inches, so perfectly adequate.
"Why would you pay £1000 for a phone that can achieve the same end as one you can pay £160 for?"
Well clearly a £160 phone doesn't do everything that a £1000 phone can do...and it can do nothing as well as a £1000 phone. It's like saying why buy a supercar when a ford fiesta dose the school run just as well. Ideally you purchase a product that can do what you want it to do, but sometimes you want to pay a bit more for a nicer product. Hardly a characteristic that is unique to smartphones. Why buy an expensive mountain bike when a supermarket lump of pig iron does the same job. You could go on with any product you choose.
My iPhone 5 is almost just about cream crackered after many many years of service, so i'm up for a replacement and given how good that phone has been and how long I've had it £1000 for a top end phone doesn't seem that expensive in the grand scheme of things especially since you wont be paying out that much in one go, it's down to the monthly amount you pay for a phone. You're going to spend a hell of a lot more to the network provider over the years than the actual device.
IOS12 does seem to speed a 6S up, I’m debating on new or just pop a new battery in my 6S Plus and run it another year.
Add dual sim and I’m in
In software on the new iPhones (subject to opt-in from the operators) except in china where physical dual sim IIRC
IOS12 does seem to speed a 6S up, I’m debating on new or just pop a new battery in my 6S Plus and run it another year.
that's good news. I think i'll probably be replacing the battery in my SE and running for another year. It's mint otherwise.
Face ID and a better camera would have been good
I'd happily have shelled out for an SE2 that was just the same size as the SE with a more modern processor, proper NFC support and waterproof. Anything else would have been a bonus.
or just pop a new battery in my 6S Plus and run it another year.
Can they not sort the basics out first, like making EE actually support the watch properly being as they are the sole network it’s available on?
Still waiting to be allowed to have one, but you can’t have a watch on a business contract.
How long have we got until they release an iOS that the SE won't run?
Seems vodafone have pulled their finger out to support eSIM and will be supporting the Apple Watch too. Hopefully a bit of competition there will get EE to do a better job of it.
Seems vodafone have pulled their finger out to support eSIM and will be supporting the Apple Watch too. Hopefully a bit of competition there will get EE to do a better job of it.
Aah - good news - may get the eSIM watch after all. No way I was going to tie myself to the car crash that is EE.
I'm still hoping for a new SE model next year (the original released in March not the usual September release schedule). It's a decent seller for them (outside of China anyhow) so would seem strange for them not to, their overall market share rose after the 5SE release to so it's not like it was only stealing sales from other iPhone models.
How long have we got until they release an iOS that the SE won’t run?
That question was asked on here just the other day. Given that they just stopped selling the SE yesterday I think it is not unreasonable to expect about two years worth of iOS updates.
(Not that the phone suddenly stops functioning just because it can't run the latest iOS).
SE has been discontinued
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aaaah man if only there was a
emoji, that would be perfect 😂
I’d happily have shelled out for an SE2 that was just the same size as the SE with a more modern processor, proper NFC support and waterproof. Anything else would have been a bonus.
+1,000,000. Apple, please stop making every geration of iPhone bigger!
but you can’t have a watch on a business contract....
You can, because I do.
Seems vodafone have pulled their finger out
EE had a time limited UK exclusive on the Watch, 'till just about now, so there was no rush on Voda's part.
+1,000,001
And "IT managers" love phones the size of a truck, to show off, and have stuck on their dashboards. Plenty of "normals", and especially cyclists, would like…
… pocket size
… as big a battery as possible
... as big a screen as possible
… (more) dust and water proof than 5/se
… all the new high speed tech
… doesn't have to be a bargain basement price
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Well not really since a 720p screen will give you an HD quality image upto about 55inches, so perfectly adequate.
A 55" TV you look at from the other side of the room, not a foot away. It's the same ppi as a the iPhone 4s from 2011 and about what you'd expect from a phone costing under £150.
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IIRC they always claimed this wasn't the case, it was a technical issue relating to the network being able to handle eSIMs.EE had a time limited UK exclusive on the Watch, ’till just about now,
I have a 6S in a massive Otterbox case (which makes it bigger than an XR & probably the same size as an XR in a slim case) in my Troy Lee Skylines right now. It is absolutely fine. Maybe stop wearing your sister's jeans? 😂pocket size
It’s the same ppi as a the iPhone 4s from 2011
Maybe that's got something to do with any more ppi than that isn't really worth it and is just a battery killer?
Why do you all need a bigger battery?
My 6s lasts a couple of days, if used heavily at least a day and a half.
I'd suggest your version of "used heavily" differs from some others 🙂
"Mrs K has a 6s though and its her 40th next year so I’m saving to get her an inscribed X as my present to her."
Hopefully Mrs K doesn't read the forum like my Mrs does then!
Maybe that’s got something to do with any more ppi than that isn’t really worth it and is just a battery killer?
Assuming that were true, why is it £750?
My 6s lasts a couple of days, if used heavily at least a day and a half.
Mine barely lasts a day (6s too). I was in London recently and I had it set to 'low power' mode - went out around 9am and by 6pm I was nursing it heavily. We did most of the Google Maps directions using my wife's 6 in that time. I have no idea why mine is so bad (I had the battery replaced in March in the free replacement scheme too). I can get through 30% of the battery on the train (30 minutes) listening to music and browsing Guardian, BBC, Facebook etc.
^^^ That is my experience too tbh. Can you not plug it in on the train though? I guess the better & more useful smartphones get, the more we'll use them so it's always gonna kill the battery!
Mrs K has a 6s though and its her 40th next year so I’m saving to get her an inscribed X as my present to her.
Just remember that phones aren't like jewellery, posh watches etc where you'll plan to hand them down to your next of kin. They have a relatively short shelf-life and even a good one will be almost completely obsolete within 5 years. Inscribing it is cute, but I'd be tempted to not do this and plan to upgrade it after 2-3 years instead. It'll be much easier to do this if you don't have a personal message on the back, which will only make it harder for her to part with and diminishing its value to others.
Cold I know, but maybe worth considering.
How long have we got until they release an iOS that the SE won’t run?
That question was asked on here just the other day. Given that they just stopped selling the SE yesterday I think it is not unreasonable to expect about two years worth of iOS updates.
I think you're underestimating how long Apple typically support phones for.
The newest phone to 'drop off' the support list for iOS12 is the 5. That was deprecated in 2013 so 4 years of OS updates from the time last sold (though actually it wouldnt run 10 so maybe 3 years).
Can you not plug it in on the train though?
This was in London - I had it fully charged when I left the hotel and I had annoyingly forgotten to pack my power bank.
Just remember that phones aren’t like jewellery, posh watches etc where you’ll plan to hand them down to your next of kin. They have a relatively short shelf-life and even a good one will be almost completely obsolete within 5 years.
This too - I was gifted an iPod by my wife as an engagement present with a message on the back. It's now sat in a drawer, broken, but I can't throw it away.
Want to buy a £160 bike? You can if you want.
Hardly the same comparison....
1) More like £1000 bike vs £6000 bike
2) I'm free to take the bits off either bike and fit them to another make
3) My bike doesn't force me to update... just to keep basic functionality
Assuming that were true, why is it £750?
Because that's the price the market will bear.
@stevextc - but nobody plays the 'good enough for me' game for any consumer goods...
How many people really need a i5/i7/i9 laptop with a terabbyte of storage for their emails and browsing when an i3 with 256GB would be just fine?
How many programs does your washing machine/dishwasher have, how many get used?
How many modes does your oven/microwave have, how many get used?
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Up until this point, I've had the flagship model of each iPhone release and for the first time, </span>there is absolutely no functional benefit to me having the latest phone. I have an X and the Xs is seemingly identical bar the processor (which is still lightning fast) and the waterproofing.
No new iPhone for me.
I’ve just looked at the X and it’s a pretty looking device.
Best deal £939... how long before they are discounted to make way for the Xs?
Hmmmm.
So have they thrown out the standard phones' cadence; 6, 6S, 7, 7S, 8, or whatever? Is this what the XR is now. I'm a tad confused.
I've been running my 6S out of contract for a year and its FUBAR (and I've not negotiated the tarrif or gone sim only, stupidly), so I'm gonna need to upgrade soon but was expecting the 8S?
Would also be in the queue for a souped up SE. Better battery, processor, camera and waterproof would do it. Can’t stand these massive brick sized phones.
My bike doesn’t force me to update… just to keep basic functionality
My iPhone doesn't either.
Here, the important thing is - when the X came out we were told it was called the "Ten". Now the new one is ExAr. I'm a bit upset by that.
"So we've designed this electronic tag. It tracks the wearer in real time and gives a historic track of exactly where they have been and when, whilst also listening to their conversation and reporting back. Any information missed and thousands more data points will be added manually by the user, including multiple photo's of the user"
"Thats brilliant but obviously equipping all our subjects with one of these will create a huge backlash from them and also won't it be very expensive?"
"Oh don't worry - they will pay for them themselves and..really there won't be a backlash, at least not for a while.."
"they sound complicated - what if they break?"
"we'll force them to upgrade every 2 years"
"you sir are a genius"
"I haven't told you the best bit yet......It will make us more money then we can eat"
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jimdubleyou
Assuming that were true, why is it £750?
Because that’s the price the market will bear.
Yep, Apple know their clientele.
The daily mash beat me to it, but basically high phones are pretty much the same, the decision is IOS and Android.
I have the choice at work and I've just got a S9, (android these days mostly for back-country navigator) as my son dropped my S8 and smashed the screen and back in the nanosecond it was out of the case. It was the least excited I have been at getting a high-end device, as the changes are so incremental these days.
I remember getting the first Galaxy Note a few days after my son was born and I'm not sure which I was more excited about.
I know it's what the market wants but who the hell thinks that making a phone out entirely out of glass is sensible. Let's find the slippiest most fragile material and build a £1000 device that you are inevitably going to drop out of it. If I had a choice I'd like a rugged phone with the insides of the high-end device. I can't get one so I have to stick the S9 in a rugged case which defeats the object of having a shiny glass body.
Yep, Apple know their clientele.
As do Samsung (S9, £740), Google (pixel, £640) LG (V35, £800ish).
High-end phones costing a fortune is not the sole preserve of Apple...