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From work I just got a Magic Mouse 2 and a Magic Keyboard. Do people really like these things or what? The keyboard feels cramped, but I guess it's because it's the small one, but it definitely doesn't feel like £80 worth. The mouse does, but the click action is heavy and the touch vertical scrolling is really vague - if you have any other fingers on it it interferes with the scrolling - makes it slow down or end up going sideways. It's also not that comfortable a shape.
The other gestures are good though - the switching between full screen apps/workspaces, and bring up the launchpad.
I'm going to say 7/10 for Apple.
The magic mouse which came with our iMac has very poor connectivity (even with new batteries), so now using a wired microsoft mouse....
Keyboard seems ok.
I hated the magic mouse. Magic Touchpad though, that's awesome.
mouses / mice seem to have been left behind a bit now that gestures as more a part of the experience than pointing and clicking - we use a keyboard and a touch pad on our desktop - keeps the same familiar gestures between that and laptops, phones etc. Keyboard seems fine - but again its what we're used to - fairly similar size / layout to laptops so has the same muscle memory
I only use a mouse on the old PC that powers my CNC machine now - along with a really filthy old Mac keyboard. It seems they just work - even when they are full of swarf 🙂
Well, it's true that the experience overall with the laptop is good, possibly better than mouse except that the movement to move from keyb to touchpad isn't great. But a desktop touchpad would solve that, when using a separate keyboard.
That Apple have never made a mass market all in one keyboard and trackpad for their iMacs & MacMinis (see the 20th Anniversary Mac) shows how they can be weak in playing to their strengths. Their mice have all been horribly flawed since the original iMac onwards, and the stand alone trackpad works well, but is always in the wrong place.
I really like the magic mouse on my home mac, but several keys stopped working recently on my keyboard. Couldn't justify the cost of a new Apple replacement, and a £10 Chinese looky-likey is 90% as good for 15% of the price
the magic mouse is amazing
keyboard is fine but I wouldn't pay £80 for it
i use Logic Pro a lot on the Mac and the ability to scroll so easily (especially L/R) on the magic mouse was a total gamechanger. Now trying to use Logic without one is like trying to write with the wrong hand.
I use a wirless 2 button pc mouse on macs, and I've got a full size keyboards that I use, one of the thin silver laptop style apple keyboards, but it's the full version with num pad for a few years ago, pretty decent.
not with mine... I can have all my fingers resting on it, and use any one of them for scrolling, works fine.The mouse does, but the click action is heavy and the touch vertical scrolling is really vague – if you have any other fingers on it it interferes with the scrolling
Do you hands look like this?
I agree about the keyboard though, much prefer the bigger, wired version!
not with mine… I can have all my fingers resting on it, and use any one of them for scrolling, works fine.
It works, it just doesn't work as well. It's as if a tiny movement from any of the other fingers cancels the vertical scroll or something. And it doesn't momentum-scroll if any of the other fingers are there.
I hated the magic mouse. Magic Touchpad though, that’s awesome.
This. I like the keyboard - the lack of numberpad means you can sit the trackpad closer which stopped the shoulder probelms i used to get reaching out to the side with a 'full size' keyboard'.
Touchpad is great (newest, larger one even better than the old). Can't use the mouse for any time at all without getting pain in my hands. horrible thing.
Best configuration of all for me is a macbook sitting in front of a decent external display so you get two screens adn the trackpad in front of the keyboard
Spilled juice on our wireless keyboard so replaced it with a cabled one that has the numeric keys and prefer it. As for the mouse I can’t stand it, trackpad for me, the wife on the other hand hates the pad and loves the mouse!
No problem with me. Keyboard is fine...no smaller than a typical laptop keyboard. Being able to touch-type helps I guess (good old Mavis Beacon! 60wpm thanks to her!) and the Magic Mouse is great. Touchpad is great also. As with anything Apple if you're transitioning from MS or other system it takes some learning and change of mindset...the Apple intuitiveness is different to the MS intuitiveness or any other system, but once you're dialled in its all very slick.
I have no issues at all with connectivity though...and battery life is great.
You are paying for the apple premium. I personally found the peripherals( and cables) to be very inferior to pc alternatives and also less durable than their MacBooks. £80 gets you on mechanical keyboard territory and £66 will get you almost any mouse which will be several times more comfortable to use. They are still much better than the standard peripherals that come with the usual i5 leased computers...
I'm not paying for it, work is.
I'm warming to the mouse, but I just found out the caps lock LED on the keyboard is green. FFS Apple, is it 1985 again? What's next? Flickery coloured lights under clear plastic knobs?
I just found out the caps lock LED on the keyboard is green. FFS Apple, is it 1985 again?
wait til you hear about Stranger Things 😉
Molgrips, I really like the keyboard and the Magic Mouse (mine is the original that takes AAs), but I was not going to chime in as I know apple stuff is divisive...
However, on your comment:
It works, it just doesn’t work as well. It’s as if a tiny movement from any of the other fingers cancels the vertical scroll or something. And it doesn’t momentum-scroll if any of the other fingers are there.
I just can't replicate that issue - I can rest all 4 fingers on top (not that I usually would but I was intrigued by your issue) and still scroll, momentum scroll etc. I even tried moving the other three fingers around whilst scrolling with my index finger and it works fine.
Is there not some settings that can be buggered about with to make it work properly? Are you using a Mac?
(The one thing I did was to use a terminal hack to speed up the mouse beyond the usual settings, but I doubt that will help you)
It's a Macbook Pro 2015.
The issue I think is with momentum scrolling. So if I flick my finger, the screen continues to scroll - and it turns out I rely on that a lot. If however one other finger imperceptibly brushes the surface of the mouse, it stops.
TBH I'm getting used to it. The only strangeness now is that the gestures to bring up say, the overview of open windows are different to what they are on the touchpad.