[Closed] Apple event tomorrow

@ben I find iPad very useful for work but most of what I do is email, document review and markup (eg with excellent iAnnotate), some report writing, custom secure apps for subscription news and data services. There where many occasions I would sit at my desk and use my iPad even with a desktop computer in front of me.

Aye, I used a keyboard with my iPad quite a bit, it wasn't half bad for that kind of thing. Until it came to trying to copy and paste something and the touch wasn't behaving, or an attachment wouldn't open and couldn't just save it to the hard drive or something like that.

As someone else said, if the iPro was running OSX it'd make more sense, running full versions of software at least instead of cut-down apps.

Just learning a bit about AirStrip on the Apple Watch. I will concede that it is quite impressive and very innovative. If that's a sign of where wearable technology is going the next few years could be very interesting. I can't see NHS Trusts buying them for all their Doctors just yet tho' 🙂

I should probably read up on airstrip in the morning when I'm more awake but I've just got about 5 buzzwords in every 50... but the remote monitoring stuff is up there now, the biggest part is platform agnostic in that though

As someone else said, if the iPro was running OSX it'd make more sense, running full versions of software at least instead of cut-down apps.

Impressed that some people claim to write reports etc. on one. Most use I could find for one in the enterprise *for what I do* is to display a pdf to one side of my laptop and external monitor. I could quite happily run dual 24inch monitors with full OS, preferably with one of those monitors rotatable between landscape and portrait.

just about everyone are running dual screens.

Only two?

TBF it could be useful for sales reps or creative ad types, but it ain't going to take over for those of us who have lots of programs open and big screens. Heck in the O&G industry in most offices (outside of the ones in the dark ages) just about everyone are running dual screens. Likewise same in a lot of Government offices.

im a designer and between my phone, pad, laptop and desktop, spend an awful lot of time with apple.

for me, i think that there is a whole lot of clever stuff going on but i secretly pine for things to get simpler and more striped back. just like the old 29/650b/26 discussions, its all about the same stuff being offered at different sizes with other 'features'. having recently upgraded my phone from a 5s to a 6, I'm reminded that my hands haven't actually got bigger, so why has my phone?

an apple pencil? I'm easily seduced but i like the 3d touch of a 2hb pencil on a daler rowney pad - old skool or what?

was very much an apple fan boy, perhaps I'm just getting older and grumpier.

I think calling it 'Pro' is a cynical ploy to crowed the Surface Pro market.

But the Surface Pro is more than just a bigger Surface, it has a 'Pro' OS for a start which means it can be networked in a work environment properly and you can have proper big, PC Processors - Intel i3, i5, and I7 processors, up to 8GB RAM and 256GB storage IS a replacement for a laptop - I share an office with 4 guys who've done exactly that, in the office, in it's cradle and used with a wireless keyboard / mouse and a monitor it's just as good to use as a desktop. On the road it's a beast of a mobile device and the flip down mat/keyboard is just enough to knock out something more than a game of Candy Crush. I wasn't a fan when I first saw them, but they are very good.

I haven't looked in detail at Apple TV, but what does it allow me to do my Smart TV or Xbox360 can't?

In my case, connect to Netflix, which my smart (?) TV refuses to do 🙁

The YouTube app is pretty appalling, especially the search.

It's much easier to search for videos on your phone/tablet and then just AirPlay them to the TV.

Or use a Bluetooth keyboard paired with your AppleTV.

yep, just highlights how average the tech is....

there isn't much out there that apple really excel at, unless you count being expensive

I'm no Apple fan but I don't get this complaint against the 6 being too big, it is fine IMO. The 6 plus maybe, but not the 6.

I don't get this complaint against the 6 being too big

I haven't looked in detail at Apple TV, but what does it allow me to do my Smart TV or Xbox360 can't?

It's a much more compelling sell if you already use Apple Music, iCloud Photo Library etc. As usual with Apple, the more you're in their ecosystem, the more their solutions appeal.

there isn't much out there that apple really excel at, unless you count being expensive

I think the stuff they're doing with Health Kit, AirStrip and all the other health related stuff has potential to be really game-changing. The most innovative stuff they're doing is actually not for the consumer, for whom the fact something is "new" is enough for them to part with their cash.

I think the stuff they're doing with Health Kit, AirStrip

http://www.airstrip.com/airstrip-partners

Microsoft is on the list though

^probably because they were only allowed to announce it yesterday and haven't got a huge team of web developers ready to roll out a new site like Apple do after these events 😆

So it's been announced and it's not up?
Pinning yourself to minority hardware isn't that clever. Making something that works on all devices much better.

Maybe apple spent a long time telling people that they made the perfect sized phone and that big phones were wrong that now they made a bigger one people have been convinced/brainwashed into thinking that

Or maybe, just maybe people are basing it on experience of using one.

Joking Drac, imagine a world where you can choose what size phone you want

Strange Airstrip don't mention apple as a partner

You're right. Probably Apple were lying.

No .... wait ...

http://automation.airstrip.com/9-9-15-event-landing-page2.html

... maybe mike was just stretching a bit in his usual crusade against Apple.

So unless there is another airstrip in HC
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they already have massive partners in Micrsoft and Samsung?
Not exclusive is it, not on their main page of partners

Your point being, beyond the usual "whatever Apple do is automatically wrong"?

my point being as stated they don't mention apple as a partner, they might be mentioned in a sales pitch but they are in bed with windows and samsung, hardly a massive kill for apple. If I was working with them I'd have had it all over the site 15s after the announcement. One of their big claims is being platform agnostic which means they are clever and will ride whatever is going - best plan, don't pin yourself on a specific hardware especially where competitive tender is involved.

But anyway as I said airship don't mention apple as a partner on their list of partners they said

AirStrip was on the main stage at #AppleEvent in
San Francisco on September 9, 2015

What does that actually mean?

I suppose it means that their product was demo'ed being used on Apple Watch at the Apple event in San Francisco on September 9, 2015. But hey, maybe it means something completely different?

I must admit I'm with Mike here. Either AirStrip have dropped the ball by not updating their website or there's something they/Apple aren't telling us.

If I was working with them I'd have had it all over the site 15s after the announcement.

Me too

ah so their stuff works on something, but they are also working with lots of other tech people, not exactly a massive exclusive is it
Considering they are pitching multi platform I'm amazed apple wasn't on the list of original partners
http://www.airstrip.com/mobile-interoperability
Why the secrecy? Unless they were waiting till apply caught up on tech that they needed?

Just skimmed the thread, have I missed the frothing over the ipad pro prices?

Starting at £650 for the 32gb, up to £900 for the cell one, then £70 for the pencil....

(and yes, I know that's not the $-£ rate, apple list prices without sales tax and we pay 20% in the uk)

explain to me, why the home user, with 600 quid to spend on a laptop, would now buy a laptop?

So now that the iPad has gotten bigger and comes with a £100 stylus, no one will want laptops any more? I suppose we should also mourn the passing of the desk, office chair and un-turfed office?

There are so many reasons but here are my top 5:

1) Laptop screens stand upright on their own. Useful!
2) Multiple displays.
3) Keyboards. Touch keyboards are just awful.
4) Compatibility. On my laptop I can run windows, Android emulators, linux, pretty much anything in fact. iPad == walled garden so stuff that.
5) No ?!%*&"$ finger prints on my ?!%*&"$ screen.

ah so their stuff works on something, but they are also working with lots of other tech people, not exactly a massive exclusive is it

Ummm ... did someone claim it was exclusive? They demo'ed their product working on an Apple Watch, and doing some stuff that I could imagine is useful in a medical environment. Maybe you can do the same thing on a Samsung watch, or a Microsoft watch or who knows, a Tudor watch, but since it was a sales pitch for Apple Watch I don't really see the relevance?

I must admit I'm with Mike here. Either AirStrip have dropped the ball by not updating their website or there's something they/Apple aren't telling us.

You are JHJ and I claim my 5 pounds.

JHJ

Who?

I never understand this "oh they haven't invented anything exciting this time" comment that people make each time any manufacturer releases a new phone.

They've made incremental improvements to virtually all parts of the phone! The camera is better, the materials are better, the user interaction is (arguably) better with forced touch etc ...

What more do you want (apart from better battery life)? No one ever complains when the new Ford Feista still has 4 wheels and can't fly. No company can make revolutionary products every year.

Hi, sorry, I don't overly care and I CBA to read five pages of discussion, but I've been gaining some of this info by osmosis over the last day or two.

Could someone summarise the announcement for me please? Far as I've been able to glean from snippets of conversations, Apple have invented the Microsoft Surface and a stylus, and I think there's a new Macbook as well. Is that about right, or is there more to it?

(Genuine question, I'm not trolling. Just curious, but not curious enough to put any actual effort into finding out. 🙂 )

Or instead of going to the effort of writing all that, you could have just typed

www.apple.com/uk

And that would have told you all you need

😉

I think they've also managed to mate an Apple TV with a Wii.

No one ever complains when the new Ford Feista still has 4 wheels and can't fly.

Ford don't claim to have reinvented said wheel. I give you - once more - exhibit A from Apple's iPhone 6S launch:

The only thing that’s changed is everything

They've made some good - evolutionary - improvements, but this kind of marketing just comes across as self-parody to me.

Back to the Phone thingy for a second, the 5s is a great piece of kit. Right size, shape, weight, look, feel, use. For some unknown reason Apple go and copy the Samsung S series and go all competitive and feel the need to bump up the size and align the shape too. You can apply that logic to the iPadPro too... So in reality all Apple seem to have done with their recent releases is.. erm... copy the designs of competitors..

The 5s I don't think can be beaten. The 6 I have now is bigger in size yet performs (in my real world) no different. Now, now then if Apple could have just bumped the size of screen on the 5 then I think they'd corner the market up.. as is, well they're just pitching a facsimile of the S series phone/drone.

The 5s I don't think can be beaten. The 6 I have now is bigger in size yet performs (in my real world) no different.

Sales figures don't agree with you though, the 6 has outsold every other model of iPhone, their most popular yet.

I'm with the "too big" crowd there. It is one of the reasons I've stuck with my old 4S till now.

It's a nice size that I can have in the front or back pocket of my jeans without castrating myself (or bending it in half) when I sit down. And I can mount it on my handlebars without it looking like I've put a spoiler on my bike.

Wife has a 5 and I could just about tolerate that at a push, but the 6 feels way too big for me. If I wanted to use something that big I'd pick up the iPad.

Yup, too big.

What @footflaps says, the 6 is the best selling iPhone ever. From my time in Asia I can see that the larger format phones are very popular there. For many the main reason they had a Samsung is they wanted the larger screen. Apple recently launched in China so Asian market preferences are going to be very important

I don't get the desire for large screen phones either, I can still fit my 4s in my pocket which to me is fairly important in a phone. My guess is a lot of the younger demographic phone market want a big screen for keeping up with the Jones' type reasons or because it's their only computing device. Possibly also the people who prefer smaller phones don't upgrade as much (or don't see enough of a reason to upgrade once you take screen size out of the equation).
Sadly it seems they're currently selling so many phones they'll probably ignore the smaller screen size market until sales start to decline and they look for other markets.

You all wearing skinny jeans or something? I can easily fit a iphone6 sized phone in my jeans pocket sitting down at my work desk. Mind it doesn't help that Apples obsession with finger print sensors and being thinnest means that other phones have smaller height and width dimensions for the same screen size.

I don't know about Aisa but in the Middle East they want big phones, so all the makers are going to have big phones to cater for that market.

@Fuzzy I cannot read a web page on a 4S without my glasses. I can on a 6. The 6 is far better for reading web content, apps and looking at pictures as it has a larger higher quality screen. The larger screens appeal to all demographics

I can still fit my 4s in my pocket which to me is fairly important in a phone

I can fit my 6 in my pocket.