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I'm glad your are doing so well kimbers and have so little to worry about.
best serviced countries in the world
health
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html
education
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4073753.stm
quality of life
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4020523.stm
what else?
so we are 20th out of 200 countries for health, seems good to me
What's a traffic womble?
Its just the usual little englander alf garnet style bigoted rubbish from him with not a truthful word in it.
I agree kimbers, backhander, those figures have cheered me up no end, take THAT Germany!
For what it's worth. Read that article in the paper a few weeks back and it's trademark usual Clarkson populist, chattering classes nonsense. It amazes me that someone that's benefited financially so much from this country and his privileged position within it can have so much disdain for it at the same time. Mind you I think that if millions were starving but he had a clear run to work in his Merc he'd be infinitely happier about the 'state' of this country.
I know many people agree with his 'politics' although this is an abuse of an already dirty word. He appeals to people that may actually be suffering from the mismanagement of the country, because for all his posturing, complaining and big words, he doesn't have a clue what he's bl**dy talking about.
My tuppence.
Si C
What's a traffic womble?
Pretend Police for the motorways, they're the guys who close motorways in order to move a cone, they exist because its too expensive to use real Traffic Police these days, what with the 45 million days H&S training they need, on top of the training needed to cover every farcical new piece of legislation or community policing project introduced, and the fact they spend 90% of their time doing paperwork so they don't have time to actually sit on the motorway network and catch people speeding. Mind you these people only speed becuase it takes 45 million years to get anywhere in this country, becuase sucessive goverments have done nothing to put in place any real alternative to the road network infrastructure, so it is consequently groaning at the seams, and everyone needs to be 3 different places at the same time to stop their companies going bust and their houses being repossessed so some greedy barstards can buy new porsches.
you lot do know that clarkson earns over 2million a year from the bbc as he has a stake in topgear from the worldwide sales
so we pay him to make a tv show which we then sell through bbc worldwide and he receives millions more form the franchise including over 300 000 from merchandising alone
so while the times were good under labour he was happy to take as much money as he could off us
http://www.****/tvshowbiz/article-1052704/Jeremy-Clarkson-rakes-ANOTHER-300-000-Top-Gear.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jun/10/jeremy-clarkson-terry-wogan-pay-cuts
he can **** right off imho
Ahh I see thak you.
you lot do know that clarkson earns over 2million a year from the bbc as he has a stake in topgear from the worldwide sales
Good for him, he's lucky. Just becuase he's doing well dosn't mean he can't use his celebrity to highlight what he sees as undesirable in this country, and good on him for doing it, too many round here are content to rest on their laurels.
I have a secure job, a decent wage, a 3% pay rise each year, a good bonus and our company is relatively recession proof. I'm still livid with the way the country is being run, hardworking friends with young families have had their companies go under, been made redundant, all sorts, all becuase self aggrandising muppets can't find their arse with their elbow. That isn't fair and they shouldn't have to pay for it.
Thus while I dislike Mr Clarkson, I identify with the grain of truth in his arguments and complaints. The fact that he can write well and he gives me a chortle every now and again merits reward.
ADH - what grain of truth in his arguments. There isn't a single one.
so your hes worth 2million of your license fee?
sounds worse than any benefit scrounger i know of
Ah but there is Teej.
The Police spend too much time paperworking, and not enough Policing. mandelson is craven. Unis are being forced into state school selective intakes, Congestion charge (tax) only necessary becuase the goverment has provided/developed no alternative.
so your hes worth 2million of your license fee?
Hey, I'm, no market is god kinda guy, but yeah, OK, fine. If nobody watched Top Gear and the programme didn't earn the corporation loads of wonga, they wouldn't pay him 2 mil, seemples. I don't really care what he earns, I don't begrudge him doing well in life. I support public broadcasting, better than the pay per view model which seems to trend to populist tat. I don't actually own a TV, so I don't pay him anything, but even if I did the funds are not ringfenced, so its hardly direct. I do buy the Sunday Times, which is a more direct input to his pocket I suppose and I enjoy his droll, thought prokoking comments on life in the UK.
Just a mild sidetrack if I may...
ernie_lynch - Member,No one cares what you think.
Ah - so I'm not alone... ๐
too many round here are content to rest on their laurels.
Jeremy closes his macbook pro with a self-satisfation exhalation of hot-air.
"I just can't stand the way this countries being pi$$ed up the wall" he mutters to himself as he removes his ermine robe and sinks his soft, unworked body into the bubbling marble jacuzzi he's recently had installed in his study.
"Someone's got to do something about it" he softly mutters as the air jets pulsate his waxen thighs and milky white crotch.
"You won't see me resting on my laure.."
But before he finishes his self-righteous sentence he drifts off into a deep slumber and dreams of all the hardships he imagines he might have had to endure if he wasn't enourmously, unbelievably, incredibly priviliged.
Good ole Clarkson, man of the people.
P.S. That actually happened.
TJ, more grains of truth than your avererage trollings/oppinions.
Good ole Clarkson, man of the people.
Gosh Damn! You're Right! Get the chunt down the mines this instant! That'll learn him a hard days graft!
That's more like it!
Down with Clarkson!
Down with Clarkson!
Come on everyone!
Do you earn more than me per hour? YOUR OPINIONS ARE INVALID ๐
Unless you are actually a Chinese coal miner, probably not.
Clarkson's opinions aren't invalid because he earns a lot, they're invalid because he's a bigoted, ill informed populist d|ckhead.
you lot do know that clarkson earns over 2million a year from the bbc as he has a stake in topgear from the worldwide sales
Good for him, he's worth every penny.
Unlike half the civil servants, 90% of MPs and all MEPs.
anotherdeadhero - MemberAh but there is Teej.
The Police spend too much time paperworking, and not enough Policing.
And you have evidence to back this up? Its a favourite of the daily wail brigade but there is nothing to back it up at all. The paperwork is essential to serve the ends of justice. What paperwork do you suggest is not essential?
mandelson is craven.
A slimeball for sure but craven? craven could be aimed at others in govenement and politics generally but not mandelson. Craven me3ans cowardly does it not?
Unis are being forced into state school selective intakes,
Evidence? Universities are being asked to ensure the intakes are fair which they have not been in the past
Congestion charge (tax) only necessary becuase the goverment has provided/developed no alternative.
Congestion charge - what alternatives are there? Its a damn fine idea that has worked well.
This is all accepting the lies from the neocon propaganda machine. Not one word of that is true. The right wing press have repeated lies until folk believe them
Man, it's happening again, all these threads, always get into some kind of 'discussion' about some 'facts' or another. Can we please just stay on topic in agreeing that Jeremy Clarkson is a massive c0ck?
I agree with Wiredchops.......clarkson is a C0ck!
Exactly! That's the spirit. This left/right 'debate' has been raging on this forum since its inception (mostly thanks to TJ ๐ ) I say we focus our energies into a tangible goal. 100% agreement on the sheer C0ckness of Clarkson. Who's in!?
Hooray!
I thought the main thrust of the thread intially was that he isn't a c*ck, is he a c*ck or isn't he? Can I keep watching Top Gear and enjoying it while totally disagreeing with half the things the c*ck says or not? This is confusing... ๐ฏ
ddmonkey, don't worry, I have thought Clarkson was a C0ck since I was twelve. Yet I have continued to watch Top gear and read all of his articles just to cement my opinion and increase my feeling of self-righteousness.
Mr Woppit - MemberAh - so I'm not alone..
Excellent ! I look forward to you not commenting on any of my posts in the future 8)
So Woppit, when you asked me to give you an explanation yesterday on your "atheist crusade" thread, you weren't really interested in my reply..............you little tease you ๐
I think its the fact that he is a c*ck that makes Top Gear so much fun. If he wasn't it would be a pretty dull programme.
ddmonkey, if you ask me, it's the secret to his unfathomable success ๐
And another thing, not only do I think that JC is sometimes controversial on purpose, I also think that some of the things that happen in their escapades are a little bit contrived! No really! ๐
Oh JC is undeniably a huge c0ck, but I kinda like him for it.
This is all accepting the lies from the neocon propaganda machine. Not one word of that is true. The right wing press have repeated lies until folk believe them
Hey, I don't believe it for one minute, but I think there is a grain of truth in it, its def important enough to warrant discussion, and in the abscence of sufficient transparency to reveal meaningful 'facts' or 'proof' one way or the other, thats just what I'll do thanks, such is my perogative as a free citizen of the world.
anotherdeadhero, I doff my cap to you, and with a tear in my eye walk into the setting sun knowing that through the universal c0ckness of Clarkson, those who would otherwise disagree are joined in a universal truth, which no 'logic' or 'reason' can ever extinguish.
Kind of like one of Clarkson's articles!
Hang on, there is logic abroad?
*sharpens scythe*
*writes letter to daily wail*
*oppresses albanian immigrants*
A couple of things.
1. Clarkson aims to get a rise out of people - thats his style, dont take it so seriously.
2. Mandy is a cock & sometimes JC can be one too..However I know which one Id rather have a beer with - at least JC would drink a pint rather than Mandy who would probably have some kind of spritzer!
3. The country is on its @rse & no mistake. How come we are the ONLY European country STILL in recession??? FFS Italy is ahead of us now..
4. 50% taxes looming & dont think that wont affect you, its just the begining of higher taxation.
5. Currency is in the poo - 1.11 vs the Euro..
6. Inflation on the up.
7. Interest rates shot.
8. BOE to continue printing money.
9. If you dont think we are in the sh1t then I want some of what your smoking!
How come we are the ONLY European country STILL in recession???
Not everyone agrees :
[url= http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/56227,business,bank-of-england-wise-man-says-that-the-uk-recession-is-over ]In a speech at Royal Holloway College, University of London, Dr Sentance, a former chief economist at British Airways, said that evidence "suggests the UK economy has moved on to a recovery track and growth has resumed in the second half of this year".[/url]
6. Inflation on the up.
Isn't that good .........or do you want deflation ?
7. Interest rates shot.
You want high interest rates, even though inflation is low ?
I like clarkson when he does his car show, it's funny in a juvenile way. As for his opinions on other stuff, irrelevant.
It does show that those here who support the "opinions" of a car journalist, must be quite devoid of any opinions of their own.
You give 2 statisticians the same set of numbers - they will prove 2 different things..
Rising inflation hasnt done Zimbabwe any good..And yes I wouldnt mind interest rates being a little higher as Im the kind of person who has saved his money over the years.
It does show that those here who support the "opinions" of a car journalist, must be quite devoid of any opinions of their own.
Oh yes, thats definatly what it means. Without a doubt. I reckon that Adolf Hitler was a misunderstood chap, but what do I know? I'm just a regular guy, not a facist dictator. Who said Godwin?
a former chief economist at British Airways
So, our debt is less than many comparable countries, our taxes are lower than our neighbours, crime is down, inflation is low, and our health system is rather better than that enjoyed by 40 million Americans.
But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a rich person having a moan in order to make himself richer?
I find Clarkson reasonably entertaining and don't mind watching Top Gear, but if you seriously think his opinions on politics are worth listening to then you're a moron. Sorry.
Would he prefer it back in the non-politically correct times when women stayed in the kitchen and weren't allowed proper jobs, and you could happily abuse ethnic minorities in the street?
You give 2 statisticians the same set of numbers - they will prove 2 different things..
I won't dispute that.
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You are obviously wholly unimpressed by Dr Andrew Sentance who is a member of the Monetary Policy Committee at the the Bank of England and has a PhD in economics anotherdeadhero ?
Maybe you're right ...... perhaps we should take Jeremy Clarkson more seriously on such matters ?

