Anyone trying to boycott US products?

Posted by: somafunk

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Angus Hanton has an excellent book (released last year) on the subject of American ownership of everything in Britain, see interview with him below

 

Nah....usual forum **** ups, can't embed link to YouTube, if you are at all interested then check out Angus Hanton Novara media interview

 

edit - this took 12 seconds to post....with no link.

 

well done stw....do you employ doge as your web devs?

Don't worry, pretty sure that video is in my first post 🙂

Some of us can only dream of 12 seconds🤣

Rhe sale of strategically important company Cobham was a fine example of it being raised as being unacceptable by defence experts... only for the American-resident-to-be-near-billionaire-Sunak Prime Minister's Gov to wave it through with a few hollow 'assurances' (which had zero legal standing) that Blighty wouldn't be shafted. 

Sold down the sewage-infested river once more.

Posted by: tjagain

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So go to them direct.

You can in some cases, but lots of the bookshops that i tend to use (dull academic stuff) haven't got direct selling web sites - because why reproduce something that gets no traffic when Amazon will do all that stuff for you?

WWSTWD ?

I have a little dilemma.

I'm in the 'not American when possible' camp (as per earlier posts).

I now find my few-years-old Garmin GPS watch on the wane.  I use it outdoors, swimming, biking, and Triathlon. So a 'Smart Watch' eg from Samsung just doesn't cut the mustard in terms of battery life (im not a world class 8-hour ironman guy... not unless you cancel the marathon!), swim metrics etc.

The choices seem to boil down to 

- Garmin. American owned, made in Taiwan.

- Polar. Finnish owned, made in China.  

- Suunto. Now Chinese owned (not Finnish) some high end Ti  models made in Finland still.  Rest in China. Best mapping.

I'm not vested in any ecosystem (yes I have other Garmin devices, but the Connect app is poor and I'm most certainly not paying a monthly premium).  Polar's Flow site is infinitely better.  Suunto's looks OK too.

So WWSTD ? 

Posted by: nickc

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Posted by: tjagain

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So go to them direct.

You can in some cases, but lots of the bookshops that i tend to use (dull academic stuff) haven't got direct selling web sites - because why reproduce something that gets no traffic when Amazon will do all that stuff for you?

Phone them?

Convenience does not trump morals in my book

Posted by: robertajobb

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I'm not vested in any ecosystem (yes I have other Garmin devices, but the Connect app is poor and I'm most certainly not paying a monthly premium).  Polar's Flow site is infinitely better.  Suunto's looks OK too.

So WWSTD ? 

Go second hand?

(Stealth ad) I'm about to advertise a Fenix 6 Pro for a very sensible price.  Still get 13 days battery life in smart watch mode. Screen protector fitted since new so the screen is immaculate and there's very few other marks on it.

I needed to replace my WTB tyre and I've ordered a Pirelli instead. I don't generally buy a lot of kit so I'm rarely looking at obviously American brands. Like I said elsewhere though I'm doing this at a fairly superficial level - so I wouldn't buy e.g. Reese's peanut butter chocolate but I'm not checking the labels on other stuff and looking up who ultimately owns the brand. 

I have unwittingly bought something else from an American brand though - some JBL earbuds. I'd just assumed they were from the Far East but no.  

Posted by: MrSalmon

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I have unwittingly bought something else from an American brand though - some JBL earbuds. I'd just assumed they were from the Far East but no.  

JBL is owned by Harman which is American and is a subsidiary of Samsung which is South Korean 

Posted by: boriselbrus

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Posted by: robertajobb

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I'm not vested in any ecosystem (yes I have other Garmin devices, but the Connect app is poor and I'm most certainly not paying a monthly premium).  Polar's Flow site is infinitely better.  Suunto's looks OK too.

So WWSTD ? 

Go second hand?

(Stealth ad) I'm about to advertise a Fenix 6 Pro for a very sensible price.  Still get 13 days battery life in smart watch mode. Screen protector fitted since new so the screen is immaculate and there's very few other marks on it.

Thanks.  I will respefully decline - i need a full 2 year warranty as I repeatedly kill the barometric alti on Garmin watches.  Who'd thunk that a triathlon watch will be fine? Unless of course you do any  swim training 🤔. Or that swimming pools contain chemicals 🤔. Obviously not Garmin that's for sure. I went through 3 or maybe even 4 910XTs  for that under warranty or exchange. A 920XT too.  Current one is the only one that made it past the warranty- and mainly I suspect because of not swimming indoors during the Covid years and little since ( Open water or a spring fed pool mainly instead, and that doesn't seem to cause the same problem). It's a known problem that's never been properly designedout. 

Posted by: somafunk

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Posted by: MrSalmon

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I have unwittingly bought something else from an American brand though - some JBL earbuds. I'd just assumed they were from the Far East but no.  

 

JBL is owned by Harman which is American and is a subsidiary of Samsung which is South Korean 

 

 

 

Take a look at Flare.  English. 

Posted by: somafunk

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Posted by: MrSalmon

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I have unwittingly bought something else from an American brand though - some JBL earbuds. I'd just assumed they were from the Far East but no.  

 

JBL is owned by Harman which is American and is a subsidiary of Samsung which is South Korean 

 

Ha, ended up in the right place after all

Posted by: robertajobb

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Thanks.  I will respefully decline - i need a full 2 year warranty as I repeatedly kill the barometric alti on Garmin watches.  Who'd thunk that a triathlon watch will be fine? Unless of course you do any  swim training 🤔. Or that swimming pools contain chemicals 🤔. Obviously not Garmin that's for sure. I went through 3 or maybe even 4 910XTs  for that under warranty or exchange. A 920XT too.  Current one is the only one that made it past the warranty- and mainly I suspect because of not swimming indoors during the Covid years and little since ( Open water or a spring fed pool mainly instead, and that doesn't seem to cause the same problem). It's a known problem that's never been properly designedout. 

No worries!

You could go second hand from CEX - they offer a 5 year warranty.

However - am I the only one avoiding American culture? I'm not watching obviously American TV (not so much where its are made or who is doing the acting, but American themes or lifestyles) or films and avoid American books.

Not so much avoiding but it does seem suddenly irrelevant. White Lotus for example. Who gives a carp about some rich Americans on vacation?

I reckon he's a forum regular...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/apr/19/this-unamerican-life-can-you-really-divest-yourself-of-everything-from-the-us

Until reading that I hadn't heard the name Dailymotion in about 10 years. So I get the site up and search for stuff I'd be interested in. Sure enough most of the videos are about 10 years old.