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Being a circumcised male with little sons who are not circumcised, I have no idea what sorts of things are 'normal' with respect to that area's specific hygiene.

The thing is, while my boys bathe frequently, they also seem to get infected easily. Right now, my 3 year old seems to have a fairly significant infection, which we are treating by putting him in the bath with baking soda.

So to you uncircumcised who know firsthand about these things: what must I get the little guys to do to cut down on infections beyond making sure they are clean? Does anyone else on here have (a) little one(s) who is vulnerable to infections?


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:34 pm
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i has several infections as a small boy, but these cleared up eventually... as far as i remember cleanliness is the key.... but the biggest thing with small boys is getting them to stop playing with it!!! this is what i remember the Dr saying to my mum when i was about 5, and even as a 5 year old it was fairly embarrassing!


 
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Keep it dry.. Tcp in a cup and stick the willy in. Make sure pants nice and loose. Don't use talc or anything like savlon. You want to keep the moisture out. I have 2 daughters but lots of problems with willy, I have no problems admitting it. Other thing that worked well for me is tea tree oil. Dilute it 10 to 1 and dip the old fella in. Don't and I repeat don't use any creams. They don't work. Good luck 🙂


 
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I wasn't hungry anyway.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:47 pm
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The whole "it's more hygenic" thing is a myth, unless you're prone to sandstorms in darkest suburbia.

Tcp in a cup and stick the willy in

You've gotta be frakking kidding me. 😯


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:49 pm
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Bloody hell dipping a young kids todger in TCP or Tea tree oil that'll make him scream.


 
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See your GP for advice James.
Cant say I have ever heard of non circumcised being more prone to infection - maybe the little fella has something else down there that requires further investigation.


 
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Reminds me of the 'wire brush and Dettol' joke.

Seriously, don't get hung up on circumcision as a cure-all. There are medical reasons for circumcision (I forget the name of it, but a mate of mine had it, it's when the foreskin is constricting its contents), but mostly it's done for traditional reasons (religion or 'we've always done it').

If he's got an infection, take him to a doctor.


 
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Just teach them to peel back and was it in the bath.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 6:55 pm
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(I forget the name of it, but a mate of mine had it, it's when the foreskin is constricting its contents

Too much meat in the banger.

I had that issue so had to have my pencil sharpened.


 
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[quote=Cougar said](I forget the name of it, but a mate of mine had it, it's when the foreskin is constricting its contents
Phimosis.

[quote=Drac said]
Too much meat in the banger.
I had that issue so had to have my pencil sharpened.

Currently considering my options with the pencil sharper, and at 34, it's kind of daunting!


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:03 pm
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Too much meat in the banger.
I had that issue so had to have my pencil sharpened.

Me too. Had it done when I was 11, but if a shock a week before Christmas, but ho hum...


 
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a shock a week before Christmas

All I want for Xmas is my two front teeth....


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:07 pm
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Just teach them to peel back and wash it in the bath

This - keeping everything under the foreskin clean means I've never had any issues.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:16 pm
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Just teach them to peel back and wash it in the bath

Yes this, I remember having a very sore todger after swimming when I was wee and learning to do this saved the day. It'll also make him more popular with the ladies when he is a grown up if he gets into the habit! I'd avoid circumcision unless there is a definite medical reason, I love my snood!


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 7:26 pm
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The foreskin of young boys is not meant to fully retract so don't force it!

Some guidance [url= http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/penis-health/Pages/how-to-wash-a-penis.aspx ]Here![/url]


 
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Cougar said » (I forget the name of it, but a mate of mine had it, it's when the foreskin is constricting its contents

Phimosis.
Drac said »
Too much meat in the banger.
I had that issue so had to have my pencil sharpened.
Currently considering my options with the pencil sharper, and at 34, it's kind of daunting!

Same here 🙁

To be honest I didn't know anything was wrong till recently, that's what you get for staying with one partner for 20 years, and its kind of daunting thinking about it as everything is in full working order, it just doesn't look right.


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 8:20 pm
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Me too. Had it done when I was 11, but if a shock a week before Christmas, but ho hum...

14 and week before Xmas.


 
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I had a bit of a rash and redness down there a while back after going to the clinic and given the all clear for stds etc. It turned out to be dry skin. I get dermatitis a bit elsewhere. Now use e45 emollient shower cream down there. Works for me.


 
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There are medical reasons for circumcision (I forget the name of it, but a mate of mine had it, it's when the foreskin is constricting its contents),

phimosis

or balanitis xerotica obliterans


 
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Had it done in my late 20's due to medical reasons and was rather sore for a few weeks but now in mid 40's and glad I had it done.


 
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I had it done as a kid for medical reasons, so did not know what my boys should have been doing.

Luckily my wife is a urological nurse so she was able to offer advice and as a couple have said above it needs to be pulled back and cleaned when in the bath/shower. My youngest was a bit lax and had some problems like you have described but he 'gets it' now and keeps it clean.


 
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Don't get the little fella to trap his, erm... little fella in his zip...

that's one sure fire way to get it infected (not recent - did it at 6 years old!!)


 
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UP WITH THE ANTEATERS! DOWN WITH THE LEATHERHEADS!


 
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Snapped my banjo during an intimate moment, had my pencil sharpened 2 weeks before my finals!

Learned to tape a dressing (like a cone of shame) around the join (and its 18 stitches 😯 ) to prevent pleasant dreams drawing blood...

The whole "it's more hygenic" thing is a myth
unless the skin is so tight you can't retract it and develop the dreaded 'ring of cheese'

Also

Male circumcision is associated with
a reduced risk of penile HPV infection and, in the case
of men with a history of multiple sexual partners, a
reduced risk of cervical cancer in their current female
partners. (N Engl J Med 2002;346:1105-12.)


 
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Male circumcision is associated with
a reduced risk of penile HPV infection

If that study is the one I'm thinking of, it's bollocks. Aside from being poorly conducted with too small a sample size, the reason that there was a reduced risk of STDs is because they'd just had surgery on their nobs and weren't for sticking it anywhere grubby for a while.


 
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Seems it isn't the one I'm thinking of, but it's still bollocks.

http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/cancer/letters10-31-02/#travis

This surface is dry on circumcised penises but moist on intact penises, increasing the likelihood of detection of HPV regardless of the actual rate of infection.

From a review [url= http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/cancer/hill3/ ]here[/url].


 
Posted : 16/09/2014 9:02 pm
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1913 couples used for the study and samples taken with a wet swab from inside the urethra as well as the surface of the glans. Obviously still bollocks though...

Either way I like my two tone knob 🙂


 
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This thread is useless without pictures.......maybe not.


 
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uncircumcised here. Never had a problem. Get a bit of cheese if it's seeing a lot of action. Rest of the time, meh.

Obviously I'm a better lover but you all knew uncircumcised guys were anyway.


 
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Had mine done at about 26 due to tightness pulling the hood back.
Hurt like hell.
Heavy petting got a bit carried away one afternoon, & ripped half the stitches out. Was like a bloodbath.


 
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Don't let them use soap to clean it, just warm bath water is fine. A lot of the soreness is caused by dryness, and soap makes it worse.

My Doctor told me he might have to circumcise me. Ah well, its no skin off my nose......


 
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Due to an 'injury out in the field of action' had mine done at the tender age of 25. In pain for a few weeks afterwards but now I love it, wouldn't go back to how it was before even if I had the choice. No difference in how it performs or feels and the ladies seem to prefer it this way to the way it previously was. Nothing to worry about at all.


 
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I'd miss mine. I'm really quite attached to it.


 
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I'd miss mine. I'm really quite attached to it.

Streamlined is the way forward though, a lower drag co-efficient can do wonders for performance.


 
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I heard a neurologist on R4 say that the bit of skin removed by circumcision contains c 30,000 nerve endings. I personally see this operation for religious/cultural reasons as a form of abuse.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:10 am
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little boys quite often get the end of their penis's a bit red which is more than likey just down to irritation eg dribbling in their pants. To get an infection I would assume it being down to poor cleaning or damage to the skin.

as said above the forskin won't retract till they get older and only when it becomes too tight to they go infor surgery. if it seems a bit tight then get them to gently pull the forskin back in the bath and that should help stretch it.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 10:30 am
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I'm 34 and have been recommended for an entire penile skin graft. To be sure, I'm not looking forward to it 🙁


 
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i had mine done when i was about 8 or 9 years old. i remember it being done in a hospital and when i returned to school a couple of weeks later...i got whacked right on the helmet by a ball!!

we had our eldest son done when he was 2, but for my younger son we'll be looking to get him done before he is 1.

but yes, i would have thought that rolling back the foreskin and giving it a wash when in the bath would suffice

I have 2 daughters but lots of problems with willy,

huh?!


 
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I heard a neurologist on R4 say that the bit of skin removed by circumcision contains c 30,000 nerve endings. I personally see this operation for religious/cultural reasons as a form of abuse.

To be honest 'whilst stirring the red paint pot' I can't feel any real difference before or after mine so I wouldn't say it has any great impact. Guess the only way to be sure is to give it a go so to speak.


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 1:31 pm
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had our eldest son done when he was 2, but for my younger son we'll be looking to get him done before he is 1.

What the actual ****?
Why do that, whats the point? Have a wash it'll be fine.


 
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I had mine done for medical reasons as several above when I was about 8. I can't speak about what I never knew but I don't think it's done me any harm.

Just as a "funny" aside, my grandad ended up circumcised after a relatively highspeed todger/stem interaction when he was about 20. He reckoned that hurt.


 
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I managed to dodge potential circumcision @30

I'd never had a single problem prior to this and came totalyl out fo the blue, I spent an incredibly uncomfortable 2-3 weeks with problems down there, resulting in the doubly uncomfortable combination of both a swollen, red, itchy dry foreskin, but also temporary phimosis due to the problem, meaning it was a bugger to keep clean and since it had lost all elasticity the surface of the skin split and cracked (!) when trying to retract to clean and apply ointment.

What made it even worse was that at the end of the second week I had to race 24hr solo at Bontrager 24/12 while suffering the above!

Since had it diagnosed as some kind of Balanitis (I forget the exact type/name) which means it could happen again, had a course of treatment and it all cleared up thankfully!

Decent hygiene seems to be keeping it in check as it's fine now and has been for over 18 months so happy days 🙂

The things you admit on STW eh!


 
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Fascinating reading. 😆


 
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An old one - What happened to the short-sighted surgeon performing a circumcision?
Got the sack.


 
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Reminds me of another joke about the urologist, who collected all the foreskins he'd removed during his illustrious career, and on retirement gave them to a tailor and asked him to make him something from them to remind him of his time as a surgeon.

2 weeks later his tailor presents him with a wallet. 'A wallet! out of all the foreskins i gave you!?'

'Yes, but give it a rub and it turns into a set of suitcases'


 
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My 3 year old, now 4, also suffered with a few reactions on his manhood. As he also suffers from eczema we put it down to this but the mrs got that worried once she took him the docs.

Doctor prescribed some antibiotics and it cleared up. Funnily enough he hasn't had any more since.

Job done, simple as that. Also as was previously said, do not force it back at such a young age. They'll play with it enough at that age it'll all happen naturally.


 
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Why do that, whats the point?

was done for religious reasons, but that aside it will in the long term avoid the issues the OP has.
our eldest son had his done in a private clinic and the youngest will be going to the same place to have his done. its easier to have it done at an early age.


 
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Why in the name of all thats holy mutilate your kids...


 
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Male circumcision isn't that bad. In the US it is the is still the norm but I don't think the rate is as high now as it was in the 70s when it was 90% of new born males.


 
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Its still utterly pointless in most cases


 
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it will in the long term avoid the issues the OP has.

Why not have appendix out whilst he's there?


 
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Silently different levels of risk...


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 5:12 pm
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Why not have appendix out whilst he's there?

Why stop there? There's all kinds of stuff you could have removed to eliminate the zillion-to-one risk that there'll be a problem at some point in your kids' lives.


 
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Teeth are often a great source of pain


 
Posted : 17/09/2014 5:37 pm
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I'll throw my experience in , i went through the cut when i was 19 just at the age when you could live without having your knob bandaged up.

Apparently it was touch and go as to whether i should of had it done as an infant ,oh how i wish i'd had it done then.

For balance after experiencing it with and without its crash hat on i feel no difference infact the cleanliness aspect is now much better.


 
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Had it done when I was 11, bit if a shock a week before Christmas

It'd be an especially bad time to find out you were Jewish, and also that you couldn't even have a Hanukkah hand shandy.


 
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I had mine done as a kid after a few UTIs. Not sure whether id get any future kids done by default but if a Dr offered it as an option it be a no brainer to accept.

Why in the name of all thats holy mutilate your kids...

Why stop at soapboxing about this, haircuts are barbaric!


 
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It's 2014!


 
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It's 2014
precicely, we've developed far more effective ways of stopping the little fella getting frostbite than the flap of frequently infected skin it came with.


 
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My eyes are watering. Glad I was 'only' ten when I became a roundhead.


 
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back to the op, our doctor told us to avoid perfumed gels and soaps when washing, and not use bubble bath on a regular basis. have had this advice for two of them, plus antibiotics to clear up the one off infections.


 
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Not 'trimmed', and I've only ever had one infection 'down there' and that caused a fair degree of awkwardness with the G/F I caught it from.
NSU, and it took quite some explaining to help her understand that it rarely presents obvious symptoms in women and it wasn't her fault.
Very embarrassing for both of us, at the time.
Otherwise, never had any kind of infection issues, thankfully.


 
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err, it's not usually Jesus-ites that circumcise for religious reasons!

but if you really want something to save pitchforks about, consider the religious sect that have their boys circumcised at home by religious practitioners that kiss the fresh wound and sometimes infect the children with herpes as a result: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/nyregion/regulation-of-circumcision-method-divides-some-jews-in-new-york.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


 
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Did you hear the one about the blind circumcised, he missed and got the sack.


 
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stopping the little fella getting frostbite

Is that what you think it's for?


 
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Why stop at soapboxing about this, haircuts are barbaric!

Because of course, haircuts are directly comparable to unnecessary genital surgery on non-consenting infants without anaesthetic.

Maybe I wasn't clear before. The bottom line is, there is no practical reason to routinely circumcise children. None, zero, nada, despite whatever old wives' tales you've been led to believe. There is, of course, very good reason to do it in very specific circumstances (such as if you're suffering from phimosis as mentioned earlier), but aside from actually having a condition the only reason to do it to your children (other than out of ignorance or misinformation) is religious / traditional.

And frankly, if your belief system demands that you surgically modify your children's genitals, at the very least you should be waiting until they're old enough to make that decision for themselves. Barbarians.


 
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Circumcision is a religious or cultural ritual for many Jewish and Islamic families, as well as certain aboriginal tribes in Africa and Australia. Circumcision can also be a matter of family tradition, personal hygiene or preventive health care. Sometimes there's a medical need for circumcision, such as when the foreskin is too tight to be pulled back (retracted) over the glans. In other cases, particularly in certain parts of Africa, circumcision is recommended for older boys or men to reduce the risk of certain sexually transmitted infections.

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) says the benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks. However, the AAP doesn't recommend routine circumcision for all male newborns. The AAP leaves the circumcision decision up to parents — and supports use of anesthetics for infants who have the procedure.

Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:

Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. Washing beneath the foreskin of an uncircumcised penis is generally easy, however.
Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The overall risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later on.
Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.
Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
Circumcision might not be an option if certain blood-clotting disorders are present. In addition, circumcision might not be appropriate for premature babies who still require medical care in the hospital nursery.

Circumcision doesn't affect fertility, nor is circumcision generally thought to enhance or detract from sexual pleasure for men or their partners.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/circumcision/basics/why-its-done/prc-20013585


 
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Because of course, haircuts are directly comparable to unnecessary genital surgery on non-consenting infants without anaesthetic.

Well youre definately wrong on one point, I was knocked out for mine.


 
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gonzy - what point do you think you're making?


 
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err, it's not usually Jesus-ites that circumcise for religious reasons!

Whatever, that was the picture that came up first. Just swap out 'Jesus' for Buddha/King David/The Honey Monster/Mohammadahamed/Chakka Khan/David Icke.


 
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For gonzy

As with all types of surgery, circumcision has some risks. However, complications from circumcisions carried out for medical reasons are rare in England.

Bleeding and infection are the most common problems associated with circumcision.

Other complications can include:

a decrease in sensation in the penis, particularly during sexdamage to the tube that carries urine inside the penis (urethra), causing it to narrow and making it hard to pass urineremoval of too much of the foreskinaccidental amputation of the head of the penis, which is very rarea blood infection or blood poisoning (septicaemia)


 
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what point do you think you're making?

not trying to make a point...just stating that there are medical benefits to having the procedure done and from experience it is generally easier to carry out the procedure at an early age.

As with all types of surgery, circumcision has some risks. However, complications from circumcisions carried out for medical reasons are rare in England.
Bleeding and infection are the most common problems associated with circumcision.

Other complications can include:

a decrease in sensation in the penis, particularly during sexdamage to the tube that carries urine inside the penis (urethra), causing it to narrow and making it hard to pass urineremoval of too much of the foreskinaccidental amputation of the head of the penis, which is very rarea blood infection or blood poisoning (septicaemia)

thats a fair point...there are risks but then again many medical procedures have risks...my father in law had a swollen knee joint drained last summer...he nearly died of septicaemia in hospital


 
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accidental amputation of the head of the penis,

😯

That's a pretty m'f'ing big accident in my opinion. Unless a cleaver is the surgical instrument of choice.


 
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Circumcision [b]might[/b] have various health benefits, including

The key is in the word 'might'. I '[b]might[/b]' grow an extra set of arms so I can play multiplayer Destiny by myself but it is unlikely to happen.

I wouldn't mutilate a child on the off-chance that something may happen in the future. If it was that prevalent then half of Europe would be in trouble. For religious reasons I would let the child grow up and decide for themselves if they wanted to chop a bit of themselves off.

And I say that as someone who had it done about 6 years ago for medical reasons.


 
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