Hence, the only way to crack this cycle is to raise awareness, to increase public pressure on the authorities.
By making unfounded accusations against people?
Witch Hunt!
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hence, the only way to crack this cycle is to [b]raise awareness[/b], to increase public pressure on the authorities.
If you actually believe that's what you are doing.
You are more deluded than I thought 😐
A witch hunt generally involved pitchforks, dunking and fire... none of that is being suggested.
At the end of the day, Politicians are supposed to work for us, but as it stands, they hide behind laws they've crafted in their own interests and use power and influence to erode the justice and nobility which they preach.
There are plenty of good un's but a number of VERY bad apples who need to be removed...
Errr the Mccarthy witch hunts didn't involve pitch forks and fire last time I checked the history books?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavender_Scare
Why do I picture you in a padded cell, wearing a straight jacket frantically typing out your posts with your big toe of one foot while gripping your phone with your other, only stopping momentarily to look left then right before returning to it.
Please tell me you do spend time doing normal stuff too because the constant conspiracy theories can not be good for your health.
Not even remotely similar...
This regards abuse of power in the darkest manner possible, within a network of a select few
Why do I picture you in a padded cell, wearing a straight jacket frantically typing out your posts with your big toe of one foot while gripping your phone with your other, only stopping momentarily to look left then right before returning to it.Please tell me you do spend time doing normal stuff too because the constant conspiracy theories can not be good for your health.
Thanks for your concern dude, I'm all good in tha hood
You're saying witch hunts are justified then? That wrongfully accusing or using unfounded rumors of someone being gay for your political agenda in the 1950's isn't comparable with doing the same in the the 21st century?
Paying my taxes does not in any way sanction what a government I never voted for, using a millitary force in a way I abhor, not make their actions 'in my name'. As I have no choice but to pay taxes.
Yes you do, you can not pay them and go to prison if you're self employed. 😆
P.S. I know a musician who used to do this back in the late '70s.
You are Call me Dave and I claim my untold millions stashed in Tax Havens the world over:
I in no way condone witch hunts, but certainly advocate justice for victims of people who have thus far proved to be beyond the law...
proved to be beyond the law...
Probably because there's no evidence against them. But that won't be enough for you will it?
For though ours is a godless age, it is the very opposite of irreligious. The true believer is everywhere on the march, and both by converting and antagonizing he is shaping the world in his own image. And whether we are to line up with him or against him, it is well that we should know all we can concerning his nature and potentialities. - E. Hoffer
You're witch hunting me about wanting a witch hunt that I don't want...
But I still want justice for victims who have ample evidence, that has been continually cast aside over a huge period of time.
And with that, I bid you good night sir... 8)
Paying my taxes does not in any way sanction what a government I never voted for, using a millitary force in a way I abhor, not make their actions 'in my name'. As I have no choice but to pay taxes. AndI haven't voluntarly signed up to become part of that imperialist military machine. So no; it's not happening in my name.
I do hope you never voted for Blair, because if you did it would make you a massive hypocrite.......
When do the schools go back? 🙄
this thread has taken a serious dive since yesterday
It's all gone a bit 'David Icke' this thread. Any mention of lizards yet?
let's talk about bikes instead
this thread has taken a serious dive since yesterday
i kind of agree with that
When do the schools go back?
1st of September for my offspring
let's talk about bikes instead
good idea...i'm going BPW this weekend...what you doing?
I'm organising a multi religion downhill event down Mount Hermon. Event pack includes flak jacket and Glock 22
I reckon you'll need maxxis ignitors for that.
Minions would also come in handy...
and Bombers obviously
Event pack includes flak jacket and Glock 22
a glock?! i'd want a Desert Eagle at least...or an AK-47
Agree on the AK47 but I wouldn't fancy your chances of hitting a barn door with a desert eagle
I wouldn't fancy your chances of hitting a barn door with a desert eagle
doesn't matter....it would look good though....we could all pretend to be Vinny Jones! 🙂
Nice one binners, quality clip that
good idea...i'm going BPW this weekend...what you doing?
I am either being a stooge for a guiding company photoshoot, or assembling my daughter's new play house.
Lucky we all are.
I just read up on what I missed in this thread ,turns out mr head chopper man is from SE England , who was saying it might never happen here? It's only a step away , going to another country to have a warm up.
Yes, everybody hide under the pillow in quivering fear, or better still, run all these dirty immigrants from our shores!! 🙄
Brings back memories of Lee Rigby and the minimal mainstream media coverage of mysterious Mi5/Mi6 involvement:
Imagine if nearly all terror plots had intelligence service involvement...
Oh, hang on:
With the constant streaming news, we have our emotions manipulated on a regular basis...The U.S. had known about Foley's abduction for some time...
Certainly, James Foley's death was barbaric, but so were the 4 men beheaded by Saudi Arabia (U.S. Allies and alleged ISIS funders) for smuggling drugs.
As for the death count in Gaza yesterday; reports are mixed, but as I understand, there's been at least 20, not to mention injuries; if Israel are using flechette shells as reported, then these are likely to be horrific.
The overall daily death toll in Syria averages out around 60.
So, just why is it that this one life is so worthy of such dedicated press coverage, if not for manipulation of not only the general populace, but also the press themselves, who will naturally want revenge...
Anyhoo, back to the UK:
Still as likely to be killed by a bee as by a 'terrorist'... almost 10 times more likely to be directly killed by a television, and the sedentary lifestyle promoted by TV is exponentially more dangerous in the long term than the strangely hyped terrorist threat...
[b]
Propaganda is good for selling weapons and plundering resources though.[/b]
Oops, I made a boob; my death by television figures were from the USA...
however, using UK figures:
you are over 300 times more likely to be killed in a Road Traffic Accident than by a terrorist
or
over 3000 more times more likely to be killed by a general accident (falling from a ladder, drowning in the bathtub, DEATH BY COCONUT) than by a terrorist.
I'll stop being a smartarse for now, but you get the idea (hopefully not the idea that I'm a smartarse 😳 )
I see the UKSF are being readied to grab/kill the British Jidhadist, I wonder if the best way to deal with the returning Jihadist problem is to just draw up a list, give no quarter and mercilessly hunt them down abroad using special forces and drones before they get a chance to come back to the UK. No need for a trial, no need for prison time, no need for constant surveillance when they get out and no need for introducing a law giving the government the right to revoke peoples citizenship's on the grounds of terrorism. A power that will be open to abuse.
Basically, let's take a lesson from mossad.
As Britain never comments on special forces and surprise is the number one advantage in battle, I'd have to question your accuracy there.
It's just been stated by the head of MI6 that they are being sent once they have a positive ID. TBF, I'm surprised he said it.
Well if that's true then the head of Mi6 is a dickhead or is playing mind games. I suspect the latter as they are pretty good at what they do.
If a jihadist was foreign born but became a brittish citizen,we can revoke there passport and refuse entry.
If a jihadist has dual nationality we can revoke their british passport and refuse entry .
If a jihadist is british we can't revoke their passport and refuse them entry.
Because you cannot leave someone with out nationality and effectively lumber someone else with our trash.
Imagine if we had a yorkshire ripper type charecter who happened to be French. He served his time in our prisons then on release we rightly moved to send him home to France, and the French turned round and said "sorry he is no longer French, so not our problem. You can have him".
If a jihadist was foreign born but became a brittish citizen,we can revoke there passport and refuse entry.
If a jihadist has dual nationality we can revoke their british passport and refuse entry .If a jihadist is british we can't revoke their passport and refuse them entry.
Because you cannot leave someone with out nationality and effectively lumber someone else with our trash.Imagine if we had yorkshire ripper type charecter who happened to be French. He served his time in our prisons then on release we rightly moved to send him home to France, and the French turned round and said "sorry he is no longer French, so not our problem. You can have him".
Your point being?
I see the UKSF are being readied to grab/kill the British Jidhadist, I wonder if the best way to deal with the returning Jihadist problem is to just draw up a list, give no quarter and mercilessly hunt them down abroad using special forces and drones before they get a chance to come back to the UK. No need for a trial, no need for prison time, no need for constant surveillance when they get out and no need for introducing a law giving the government the right to revoke peoples citizenship's on the grounds of terrorism. A power that will be open to abuse.
WITCH-HUNT!! 😉
If a jihadist is british we can't revoke their passport and refuse them entry.
Because you cannot leave someone with out nationality and effectively lumber someone else with our trash.
If May get's her way she will be able to do exactly this.
WITCH-HUNT!!
Okay, individuals of whom we have evidence are carrying out terrorist attacks. So we don't end up bombing humanitarian doctors etc.
If a jihadist was foreign born but became a brittish citizen,we can revoke there passport and refuse entry.
If a jihadist has dual nationality we can revoke their british passport and refuse entry .
If by "jihadist" you mean terrorist then I suggest something a tad more appropriate to the crime than taking their passport away.
Ok, this is just a theoretical exercise...
If a British 'jihadist' has been in the combat zone, but only killed armed men who were attacking an already held position
And a British IDF volunteer had killed unarmed women and children, who were in their homes.
Who is worse?
no need for prison time, no need for constant surveillance when they get out and no need for introducing a law giving the government the right to revoke peoples citizenship's on the grounds of terrorism. A power that will be open to abuse.
You cannot stop a British jihadist from returning to this country.
Once they return, if you can prove charges against them, arrest them, try them, put them in prison .
If not they will have to be kept under surveillance.
That is a lot of people watching a lot of people.
And there will be acts of terror in this country, No two ways about it.
If May get's her way she will be able to do exactly this.
Not as long as we are part of Europe we can't, it would be against European law.
Ok, this is just a theoretical exercise...If a British 'jihadist' has been in the combat zone, but only killed armed men who were attacking an already held position
And a British IDF volunteer had killed unarmed women and children, who were in their homes.
Who is worse?
Pointless discussion, we have no reason for killing IDF volunteers where as we have a completely valid utilitarian reason for killing ISIS members.
They would be the same. Murderers.
Pointless discussion, we have no reason for killing IDF volunteers where as we have a completely valid utilitarian reason for killing ISIS members.
Is oil the reason?
I jest...
I was talking more about the return to the UK situation...
But hey, if you're knee-jerk kill happy, but not pursue pervy politicians who sold the weapons that caused this mess in the 1st place happy, that's your perogative
