I've very little interest in this either, but I do notice that if someone doesn't like Meghan, they are almost always the sort of person I wouldn't like too.
Saves time.
For the nth time via many people, they haven’t been paid.
Maybe not, but they will be able to make money on the back of it if they choose to do so.
Maybe not, but they will be able to make money on the back of it if they choose to do so.
Hold judgment till then,erm, then?
Hold judgment till then,erm, then?
Also maybe withold judgement until you hear both sides of the story.
How else are they supposed to get their side of the story over without an interview like this?
Go to the tabloids... oh wait
Issue statements that definitely absolutely won't be intentionally misconstrued.... Hang on
Speak to 'the firm' about a PR campaign to highlight the charity works they've been doing and in no way be compared to Diana... Nearly there
I honestly couldn't give two f's about the royals, what I do give a serious f about is racism, hypocrisy, ignorance (especially willful ignorance) and the distinct lack of nuance and empathy floating around at the moment.
Absolutely spot on SpawnofYorkshire
No sympathy for them at all. They should have stood up and told the rest of the royals to eff off and done so loudly, publicly and earlier.
sorry they are two parasites complaining tough. People actually have it hard in this world not these overerprivileged spolit idiots
That Irish times article is brilliant
Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news stories. More specifically, for the Irish, it’s like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and, also, your grandfather was murdered by a clown.
Clown Catholic
Bye 🙂
With your profession and comments on mental health in the past I would have expected a more educated contribution TBH.
Why should I have sympathy for these overpriveledged spoilt idiots?
Yes her pain is real but its tiny compared to what many folk go thru. Try living with serious mental health issues when you are unemployed and have no money? Try living the life of a poor black person in the UK or the US.
try living a life of disability on the pittance the UK state provides.
My sympathy got all used up on people who deserve it.
Just because they have more money than some doesn't excuse racism and mental abuse / negligence TJ.
Why should I have sympathy for these overpriveledged spoilt idiots?
1 - they're not asking you for sympathy
2 - because they're still human beings
I dont think its a bad gig, open a hospital wing, meet some random african president, have some nice dinners. Get a chauffeur, house, marry a multi multi millionaire. But it didnt work out
I totally hear that in the voice of Nessa from Gavin And Stacey.
No it does not and I did not say it did. The point still stands - they are massively overpriveledged and have no sympathy from me as that has gone to people who are in much worse situations. Its only from their position of massive previledge they thein they are hard done to.
Now lets compare them to the Windrush generation? wrongly deported to a country they never knew and dying in penury - now thats racism affecting someones life. Thats people with mentqal health difficulties
they are parasites and I simply have no effs left to give them
edit - and they are asking for sympathy - thats what the interview was about - creating a narrative of how hard done by they are. Its bollox
Isn't one of the underlining factors of mental health issues that they're basically 'none discriminatory'? I'm no expert (other than most of my adult life suffering from anything from mild anxiety to fairly severe depression) but anxiety/depression don't really care how rich/privileged you are......having a **** tonne of money doesn't help you not feel depressed/anxious.
TJ these posts seem fairly uncharacteristic of you?!
I'm as anti monarchy/anti royalist as you can get. I do however have some sympathy and empathy towards them.
This situation doesn't even need a debate....the reason that they were hounded and demonized in the press is because she's a bit too brown for the liking of your average boomer royalist.
Surprised at your posts TJ. I've got a lot of respect for you, but feel you've been very harsh here
they are demanding and getting special treatment because of their hugely privileged lives and while what happened to them is not right by any manner of means its is incomparably tiny to the issues facing millions of people in this country.
I have zero effs to give to people like them. There are millions of people much more deserving.
I think the fawning over them from many on here is quite sickening in its servility
Look - its just an opinion and that is mine.
Why should I have sympathy for these overpriveledged spoilt idiots?
Just standard human decency? I would agree that they have vastly more options than many people but being rich/privileged doesn't automatically equal happiness.
Whataboutery isn't really helpful.
Why? I do not know them. they have a lives of huge privilege and I have spent far too much time dealing with people in much worse situations for me to give a stuff about them.
I ask you - why do you feel anything for these people who you do not know and who inhabit circles of extreme wealth and privilege?
Ever thought you have been taken for a ride? Who killed bambi?
its is incomparably tiny to the issues facing millions of people in this country.
So are many peoples issues in comparison, but it doesn't stop the personal hurt and pain anyone is feeling when affected, nor does it deny anyone the right to compassion and help. Mental health and racism is not limited to nor lessened by class, finance, society or culture, race or gender.
Finally someone putting this into context, thank you TJ, completely agree with your sentiment.
Meh. Quite like them and the bit about Meghan having her passport removed from her so she couldn’t leave made the whole interview really bleak - even if they are privileged.
Would go into battle with Harry just for getting rid of Piers Morgan.
Anyway, here in the Netherlands everyone thinks the British are really ****ed up in the head now after watching that interview - this shit apparently seems normal to uk families.
I ask you – why do you feel anything for these people who you do not know and who inhabit circles of extreme wealth and privilege?
Ever thought you have been taken for a ride? Who killed bambi?
I don't especially, but you of all people TJ should see that there is a concerted effort by 'the establishment' in this country to discredit them which is pretty creepy. In the last few days stories have come out that she was supposedly being investigated for bullying staff, irregularities at a charity they set up, and for wearing earrings that might have come from the leader of Saudi (who our government sell billions of pounds of weapons to, but that's fine apparently).
Frankly anyone who does anything to bring down the popularity of the ludicrous feudal system we still have in this country is ok with me.
Good retort there grum.
I have spent far too much time dealing with people in much worse situations for me to give a stuff about them.
Do you tell the ones who are struggling with less severe issues to stop whingeing because other people go through worse?
Anyway, here in the Netherlands everyone thinks the British are really **** up in the head now after watching that interview – this shit apparently seems normal to uk families.
It's actually quite scary to see how many people in the UK just go along with what their lizard overlords tell them to think.
I quite agree Kryton - I am sure it hurts. I still do now see why I should care one jot? why its worth an hour on Oprah and why its worth a thread on here with some real sycophancy going on
their enormous wealth and privilege will shelter them from a lot of the ill effects. A racist morther inlaw will not lead to them sleeping on the streets. they have not been arrested and deported wrongly. they have not had unfair benefit sanctions leaving them to starve.
its bread and circuses. Its who killed bambi.
True Grum - and i still do not care one jot about them.
Yes, they do have massive wealth, but some context is required. I find it hard to understand how people can’t have some compassion for a guy who lost his mother at a young age, in terrible circumstances, whilst being watched by the world. Ignoring the debate about how much the actions of the palace may have led to his mother’s death, he then grows up, gets married and then sees his wife being hung out to dry by the very people who should be looking out for him and his family. This is his chance to put the record straight, bypassing the media who make his life so difficult. He was born into the royal family, he didn’t choose that life. I’m not a royalist at all, I just have compassion for the guy (and his new family)
I don’t think it’s bread and circuses, from outside the uk that interview seems like a damning insight into the British national psyche
True Grum – and i still do not care one jot about them.
Yes as you've said repeatedly, you care so little you've had to make several posts in this thread just to reiterate how little you care.
I have never been impressed by anything any royal has ever done. Until Harry and Meghan decided to walk away, that is.
Good for them, taking control of their lives. Why put up with the crap if you can take another option?
It’s not context. They aren’t complaining they are skint as don’t have money to fly business class, in the same context of a family who are skint and can’t afford Netflix.
They are highlighting racism, for the most part.
Quoted in the Mirror:
A senior royal source said....
"Quite frankly there are far more important things going in the world rather than the circus going on round a television interview."
Maybe the first time a senior royal source agrees with TJ?
Also maybe withold judgement until you hear both sides of the story.
Is there another side to the story regarding being paid for the interview?
Hey, fantastic news from this anyway. Scumbag Piers has been sacked from ITV 😀
With remembering that there are various "sides" to take on this. Reminding myself too.
Anti Royal.
Anti Royal but pro Meg/Harry.
Pro Royal.
Pro Royal but anti Meg/ Harry.
Pro Meg/ Harry but pointing out they have a lot of wealth to overcome adversity such as racism/ mental health unlike most others.
Ambivalence to Meg/ Harry but uncomfortable with the targeted media attention from right wing press.
Total "couldn't give a damn about any of them".
I'm sure I've missed tonnes of perspectives too.
If STW has taught me anything it's two lessons.
1 Almost nothing in life is binary and certainly judging a forum member based on their opinion on a single topic is almost certainly doing then an injustice.
2 For your own sanity, when it's a good time to "do a Piers" and flounce.😁 Not a single opinion will be changed in this thread and there really are bigger concerns these days.
(By the very definition of flouncing/ Piersing I reserve the right to un-flounce in a day or so.😁)
@tjagain how wealthy does someone have to be before it's okay to be racist towards them?
How wealthy do you have to be before you no longer have a right to call out racism?
How wealthy do you have to be before you no longer have mental health issues taken seriously?
You do realise that's pretty much your argument?
By all means dislike them for whatever personal slight they have caused you but don't confuse empathy for sycophancy.
Squirrelking
that is not my arguement at all as you could tell if you thought rather than a knee jeck attack.
Its simply I do not care about these people I do not know. they have a life of enormous wealth and privilege. Yes they have been ion the receiving end of some unpleasant behaviour they claim and the press have been pretty nasty
But to have people on here making all that fuss about it all? to get on Oprah? attitudes on here are decidedly sycophantic in that if this was joe Bloggs no one would care? Look at windrush and how the poor chap who was wrongly deported and died in penury? did he get on Oprah?
No - I reserve my sympathy for those who I know and who are in need. NOt for these parasites who while enduring nasty behaviour still have no idea what life really is like for the citizens of this country and who still live a life of enormous wealth and privelge
If a couple with a net worth of $50 million need to go on TV and whine about how bad their life was to promote whatever shit show of a life they desire then i suggest that just maybe they need to consider what dignity means and at a time in history when so many poor people are dying indicates to me what their priorities are (chickens apparently)
Its plainly evident that Megan was disappointed by Royal lifestyle and the restrictions it brought, its plainly evident that Harry has tried to fix that and expects it all to be underwritten by an extension of the public purse.
Cromwell had it all sorted (for a while) fundamentally they are all to a degree an expensive liability.
... then i suggest that just maybe they need to consider what dignity means....
I think that's pretty much their argument - I don't see them "whinging" about money or asking for sympathy, what I see are two people relentlessly hounded by a toxic and openly aggressive press and given zero support (and in some cases racism and fairly open hostility) from the family and very network that's literally there to help them, who decided to step away from their roles to minimise the heat and found it got turned up to 11. Compare and contrast with sickly-sweet portrayal of Kate - that's not her fault, but for an example the press spoke lovingly of her healthy avocado morning sickness cure and tear the arse out of Meghan for destroying the environment for eating avocados. No-one was telling their side, so they went "f***it, we'll do it ourselves".
People can be anti-monarchy and that's fine, people can bitch about the privileged and whilst I think that's not unfounded, it still ignores them as human beings.
Jesus, what a way to start the morning. 🙁
Lordy tjagain you do manage to tie yourself in knots sometimes. On the sauce last night?
Because it really is the most important thing in the world at the moment, isn’t it?
Why You Shouldn't Be Distracted By The Royal Circus | Prof John Ashton:
its is incomparably tiny to the issues facing millions of people in this country.
I can't imagine your reaction to someone concerned about what tyres to use!!
If a couple with a net worth of $50 million need to go on TV and whine about how bad their life was to promote whatever shit show of a life they desire then i suggest that just maybe they need to consider what dignity means and at a time in history when so many poor people are dying indicates to me what their priorities are (chickens apparently)
Its plainly evident that Megan was disappointed by Royal lifestyle and the restrictions it brought, its plainly evident that Harry has tried to fix that and expects it all to be underwritten by an extension of the public purse.
Your key word is your first; “If”. Well, they didn’t do anything that followed which basically means you wasted your time and display of ignorance typing that out.
