I wouldn't, would you?
I am no royalist, but I did think that public family spat was a bit too much on TV last night.
IMO
- she knew what she was getting in to
- she knew the family are a bit weird and racist (heck at one time you didnt even get to choose who you married)
- what planet are they on, feeding their 'rescued' chickens (at least she has done her bit and can sleep at night)
- I really just see that she wants her bombshell moment in history, and because no one is actually interested in her or Harry this was it.
Or am I being a little harsh?
Was wondering how long this thread would take.....
So you're that disinterested in their dirty laundry airing that you watched it and have started a thread on it?
**EDIT - and it's interesting that you refer to 'she' a lot, when there were two people being interviewed.
I've no interest whatsoever in any of it but I'll tell you the reason why they're doing it.
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Was wondering how long this thread would take…..
Oh come on everyone wants to though 🙂
So you’re that disinterested in their dirty laundry airing that you watched it and have started a thread on it?
No I said I wasn't interested in them before, I dont think many people were? She has certainly raised their profile
Went down stairs for some lunch ealier, though I'd put the news on. Bloody royals, Harry and Megan.... turned over and watched some nobs getting a free holiday for pretending to want to buy a house in the carribean.....
Working in my shop, In the rural Cotswolds, I seem to have two types of customer.
A:the daily mail/express or Telegraph reader, generally over the age of 50 who all start up a conversation in the last 48hrs with "which side of the Meghan/royal fence are you on?"
And B: everyone else who just gets on with life.
For me personally, they as a couple have little or no effect on me, my family or any other part of life, why should.i have an opinion on theirs? And also, why isn't Prince Andrew still on the front pages??!! His, alleged, pedophilic actions have much more of a baring on society and the institution than a couple leaving 'the family business'.....
That Irish times article is brilliant
Having a monarchy next door is a little like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and has daubed their house with clown murals, displays clown dolls in each window and has an insatiable desire to hear about and discuss clown-related news stories. More specifically, for the Irish, it’s like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and, also, your grandfather was murdered by a clown.
Number 2 item on TF1 news last night. Better than the soap on France 3 but less plausible.
Loved every second of it. 🙂
The couple's treatment in the media has been fairly abhorrent up to now & anyone who manages quite so successfully to rile up the gutter press and Internet gammons in releasing their statement is probably doing something right.
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Free MemberI’ve no interest whatsoever in any of it but I’ll tell you the reason why they’re doing it.
I’m pretty certain they’ve already said that themselves as they’ve been “cut-off”
Piers Morgan is looking pretty bad out of it - therefore it’s a good thing
And also, why isn’t Prince Andrew still on the front pages??!! His, alleged, pedophilic actions have much more of a baring on society and the institution than a couple leaving ‘the family business’
All amazingly convenient for the tabloids, the Palace and anyone else concerned to have all this H&M shit kicking off as a distraction isn't...
As the sort of thing that belongs only in Heat magazine for the perusal of the sorts of people who peruse Heat magazine for this sort of thing, in my opinion it belongs only in Heat magazine.
PS Is Heat magazine still a thing?
That Irish Times article almost makes the whole media frenzy worthwhile.
I have a feeling she probably had loads of advice from the Palace staff when she got engaged about what's expected of a 'Royal'. It's not a fun life.
But to continue with a lavish life style, I don't think a helicopter pilot earns quite enough.
It was quite obvious listening to a few of the rules, such as the british tax payer won't be paying for your security if you are living abroad permanently, your little lad isn't a prince just yet as he's too far removed from the throne !
We can easily guess where any racist remarks could be coming from, can't we Phil ?
This is what we know about Princess Michael of Kent:
In an ITV interview following the "go back to the colonies" controversy, the princess doubled-down on her denial, saying, "I even pretended years ago to be an African, a half-caste African, but because of my light eyes I did not get away with it, but I dyed my hair black." She also added of her trip to Africa, "I had this adventure with these absolutely adorable, special people and to call me racist: it's a knife through the heart because I really love these people."
As well as wearing a blackamoor badge to an event with MM and having two black sheep called Venus and Serena. Her father was an actual SS officer. Imagine what gets said in private by her and others in the family.
Never mind the overtly racist 'Straight Out of Compton' type stuff in our newspapers. I dunno the couple seem like relatively OK people to me as far as you can ever tell about these things.
That Irish times article is brilliant
That quote is wonderful.
– she knew what she was getting in to
– she knew the family are a bit weird and racist
I think, as it turns out, that the answer to both of those questions appears to be; she didn't. Apparently it came as a surprise to her that she'd have to curtsey to the Queen, even in private. Which is, when you think about it, bloody weird and more than a bit idiotic. More power to them, I think ultimately the days of the monarchy are numbered, the less parasites hell bent of continuing a massive and unending class war so they can live in luxury, the better.
We can easily guess where any racist remarks could be coming from, can’t we Phil ?
No, Harry said it wasn't Uncle Phil. I reckon it was the paedophile trying to change the subject
The Daily Mash has been on top form:
Their dilemma is being a not-a-little-bit vacuous whilst needing to stimulate press interest by being salacious. You can be amused by many subtexts in this, it's real family entertainment.
Or am I being a little harsh?
No.
Peering into my Mystic Meg[han] ball I see a future Harry who's been ditched by his needy, publicity hungry wife and he's left out in the cold after burning his bridges [because he was told to]
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I’ve no interest whatsoever in any of it but I’ll tell you the reason why they’re doing it.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
I'd just consider it as "right to reply". The press in general seemed to give them a very hard time. Even if you doubt that their story warrants 2 hours of TV time, then all you have to do is not watch it (I didn't watch it, and I've barely seen it on the news today) and just enjoy the Express, mail, Piers, that guy representing the tabloid editors on the BBC this morning, all trying to justify why their position wasn't racist.
Certainly feels like the general direction of any 'backlash' has been against parts of the media rather than Meggan and Harry.
That Irish Times article is indeed great
Beyond this, it’s the stuff of children’s stories. Having a queen as head of state is like having a pirate or a mermaid or Ewok as head of state. What’s the logic? Bees have queens, but the queen bee lays all of the eggs in the hive. The queen of the Britons has laid just four British eggs, and one of those is the sweatless creep Prince Andrew, so it’s hardly deserving of applause
Being honest I don’t like to see or hear about this sort of nonsense. To me it just allows for real news to be hidden or glossed over.
I have no respect or allegiance to the monarchy, but if you decide you want nothing to do with your family, your family wealth etc, then you should expect to get no financial support. I can’t see any point in a one sided, tell all (but not actually telling anything) gossip show. Actually apart from the $$$ as mentioned above.
I’d have a lot more respect if the gossip show was about how Harry had to now knuckle down and do real work providing a real income, as opposed to how he has had to live of his inheritance.
More specifically, for the Irish, it’s like having a neighbour who’s really into clowns and, also, your grandfather was murdered by a clown.
Amazing writing. Love it.
As for the $$$$$$ comments... I don't think so... it's all about sticking the middle finger up to people (newspapers, family, employees of the business) who have been complicit in flicking shit at them for years now... and telling them to shut up and not publicly defend themselves. Well, now they've moved to having their say in public... and why shouldn't they? A daily drip drip of poison has been sent their way... they aren't prepared to be the quiet victims... they can lay out their case as publicly as they want. It's in the public space that they've been under near constant attack, after all.
+1 to woodster
Although me & Mrs Db did imagine certain members of the Royal household wishing prince Philip would chose now to pop his clogs
...it’s all about sticking the middle finger up to people (newspapers, family, employees of the business) who have been complicit in flicking shit at them for years now… and telling them to shut up and not publicly defend themselves. Well, now they’ve moved to having their say in public… and why shouldn’t they?
This. And fair play to them.
Ah, good to see a thread where we can impartially judge why Meghan is a money-grabbing publicity hound and should just be quiet...
The side by side comparisons of her treatment and Kate Middleton's treatment by the press make for disturbing reading, and it's obscenely naive - or incredibly disingenuous - to pretend there isn't a racial element to that. There are also lashings, of course, of prejudice against Americans and divorcees in the whole "she's not good enough for *our* royal family" narrative, but race is a large part of it.
The rough story seems to be that Harry brought home an actress who thought that life as a royal would be dead simple and she could continue to do things her way. They made clear that she couldn't and she became persona non grata. And it escalated from there - Harry and Meghan figured they could move and be the US franchise of the royal family, and they were cut off. As a man who's never had to work for a salary, it's got to be tough for him; and her job opportunities will be limited. So it's possible to feel a degree of sympathy for them and the extent to which the royal family and press have hung them out to dry as cover for other things, even while thinking the whole situation is an utter irrelevance in the modern world.
Meh.
The Royals are a weird lot - you’d have to be a bit weird yourself to even think about getting involved with one.
I wouldn’t - not for all the tea in China..
Bloody image posting
As a man who’s never had to work for a salary
True. But he has worked. In the military. And not just played at it.
her job opportunities will be limited
Nonsense. She'll be turning down TV series offers.
There are two sides to every story.
I guess its the sign of the times. It goes on all the time in the media with z-list celebs. My kids know all the ins and outs of various people I've never heard of who all look the same and seem to have the same lives. Just let them crack on. Its sad alot of people are often more interested and attentive to the lives of media celebs than their own and that of their family. I guess we've been far too interested in the royal family for too long but I guess we pay for them so at least in this case we're entitled.
I didn't watch it but i's been impossible to avoid the aftermath so might as well have. Don't think they've done themselves any favours and will probably backfire on them. At least this side of the pond. The yanks will lap it up.
she became persona non grata. And it escalated from there – Harry and Meghan figured they could move and be the US franchise of the royal family, and they were cut off. As a man who’s never had to work for a salary, it’s got to be tough for him
To be fair to him, he served in the Marines in Afganistan without anyone knowing until the press outed him and it became a liability.
They then said they were leaving, were told there would be no support, and they said they were leaving anyway because that wasn't the point.
I know there are always two sides to the story and the truth might bear little or no resemblance to one, the other or either. But your's does sound like the version peddled by the royal press secretary and the Daily Express, so I think it's wrong to then condemn them for giving an interview that's not fitting in with that narrative.
I accidentally pressed the wrong channel on my TV remote control.
Ended up with 3 seconds of the interview, yuck!
Quickly switched channel.
Much more enjoyable watching Agatha Christie's Poirot & a good S.Korean movie after that ...
She certainly seemed a bit naïve going into things but, assuming it's true, there's no excuse for the racism or there not being more done about the tabloid bollocks. Can't say I blame them really for trying to get their side across now that they're somewhat free from 'the firm'.
+1 with W00dster
none of my business, so I don't care.
the only thing I would comment on is the "side by side comparisons of her treatment and Kate Middleton". I remember - before they were hitched - the press ripped into her and her parents for years. "Waitey Katey", "Doors to Manual" etc. So she's not had a particularly easy time of it either. Ditto Camilla. Ditto Edward's wife, or Fergie. Etc.
Course, it shouldn't happen for any of them (and I'm not saying it's not worse for DoS). Unfortunately - as mentioned - it's a Heat style thing. They are - for good or bad - celebrities now. And celebrity sells. The royals are just the UK equivalent of Keeping up with the Kardashians or whatever. The Kardashians have to be dramatic to keep relevant (and keep money coming in). The royals do not; civil list etc. The Sussexes will now have to keep in the news to keep the money coming in; this may be the first of many exclusives.
Get rid of all salacious gossip over people you don't know (royal or not), and the world is a better place. But anyone watching it, or buying a paper over it is complicit in it.
Sorry, personal opinion.
a good S.Korean movie after that … Parasite ? Tis good isnt it.
That Irish Times article is superb. Honestly can’t believe you have to curtsy or bow to the Queen in private, madness. I’d love to meet a Royal just so that I could freak them out by going in for a handshake or hug. The whole Monarchy thing just seems like a part of the past that needs to piss off tbh.
Ex-pat and wife do TV interview, 6 of the top 10 news articles on the BBC.
I can only assume the government have quietly passed some law that is reprehensible, and are burying the lead.
I’d love to meet a Royal just so that I could freak them out by going in for a handshake or hug.
Oh, er... actually, not that hand, I had a wazz just before coming in 😀
But anyone watching it, or buying a paper over it is complicit in it.
Or talking about it on an internet forum.
The thing for me is, as superbly pointed out in that Irish Times piece, the royals do provide a bit of a Rorschach test of who we are/want to be as a society.
And yes I remember Kate getting stick, but this is showing the hierarchy of our society pretty clearly: rich white aristocratic people are at the top, then significantly below them it's less rich white people with more ordinary names, then significantly below them rich black and brown people.
All I can say on the matter is, I'm just going to eat biscuits. Or I would if I had some. Guess I'll crack into the dark cooking chocolate, again, instead.
I haven't been on STW in a while, might give it another swerve after reading this thread.
Nice to see the gammon 'heavy hitters' are still congregating on here. Lots of loaded language on this thread denying someone's right to reply after being vilified by the press.
There's a distinct lack of empathy or understanding of unconscious bias.
Couple of other points - they had their security removed after they had moved to Canada and the daily mail published their address, and without advanced warning leaving them exposed. They moved to the US as they were offered santuary and security by Tyler Perry whilst they got settled
Harry was an Army Captain for a number of years, flew combat missions as lead pilot in Apache's and only left Afgan after being outed by the tabloids. Hundreds of our services knew he was out there and alongside him and didn't out him because he flew into danger with them. Think that counts as a job.
They are still in high risk and have to pay for their own security, that won't be cheap so if they monetise this story then fine.
Finally there we're some important points about mental health and suicidal thoughts in the interview that are being dismissed, which is toxic AF. Have a word with yourselves and look up the definition of compassion
