[Closed] AIBU - neighbour issues take 37.

So... shonky structures on garages... 😆

I'm the least judgemental person you'll ever meet. I've friends who are variously white, Asian, Afro-Caribbean, gay, lesbian, bi, confused, trans, and one who thinks he's a wolf and has the outfit and everything.

"Some of my best friends are darkies and pooftahs" 😉

[i]*For the benefit of the hard of thinking, that was an ironic joke[/i]

And yeah, that was the point.

It's kind of a lazy stereotype sure, but if an old retired Yorkshire farmer had erected a pigeon coop in his allotment, it wouldn't particularly be out of the ordinary. For a family who I've only ever seen in traditional Muslim dress, are you telling me that's not a little unusual?

Hence the question, is this merely unusual or is there some significance that I'm missing? Will his mates at the local Mosque also be going "mate, WTF is that?" or is it commonplace in other areas and I've just never tripped over it before? I mean, livestock I could understand, if they'd put chickens in there or something. But pigeons?

Maybe I should ask if they've got snowboards.

That photo is racist, his shirt says "blackberry" on it and is therefore offensive to berries of other colours.

[i]I'm the least judgemental person you'll ever meet. I've friends who are variously white, Asian, Afro-Caribbean, gay, lesbian[/i]

I only know my friends by the colour of their shorts.

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Good grief.

That photo is racist, his shirt says "blackberry" on it and is therefore offensive to berries of other colours.

I think you are being racist by assuming that the colour of the berry has anything to do with its essential berriness.

That photo is racist,

Yep, appropriating the cultural symbols of Mother Russia for his own commercial ends.

Shame on you Lewis!

Cougar - can the garage actually house a car cos I can't even see an opening? Are you able to speculate on what the garage is being used for? Any signs of piping, wiring etc ?

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"Some of my best friends are darkies and pooftahs"

One of the others was ill but he's all right Nowoooooooooooohhhoowwwwoooowwww

*facepalm*
Why is it threads on here which make reference to someone's ethnic type by way of setting the scene always degrade into finger pointing and perceived racial slurrs?
Its very easy to spot racists, their posts always begin "im not a racist, but...".

Get back to the question of planning blight FFS!

If I tried to do anything for more than five minutes on my garage roof I'd probably just fall through, let alone live on top of it.

Planning is probably the most effective department to speak to about this rather than building regs.

I think it's a fairly sensible discussion that might help Cougar move with the times. People from all around the world like all kinds a shizzle.

Agreed, lazy stereotyping. a very quick google came up with this, so now you can see that brown people like pigeons too :0) http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/world/asia/china-xinjiang-uighur-pigeons.html?_r=0

Cougar - can the garage actually house a car cos I can't even see an opening?

If it is anything like my terraced street (and it looks pretty similar from the photos) the outbuildings are probably the old outside bog (netty) and the coal shed.

Cougar - can the garage actually house a car cos I can't even see an opening? Are you able to speculate on what the garage is being used for? Any signs of piping, wiring etc ?

That's a good point. I can't really see much beyond what you can in the photo, but next door had a similar "conversion" a few years ago. The old probably-asbestos garage was demolished and a new breeze-block affair build in its place. There's a back door and a side door, and I think there's two rooms inside. I found out the purpose of one of these rooms only relatively recently.

I found a kid's coat in my back yard, I figured it might've blown off the neighbour's washing line. Spotted the block next door sitting in the garage so shouted over the garden wall, "is this yours?" "No" he replied, so I hung it on the back wall in case its owner happened by again. A little while later I thought, hang on a minute, and went back out for a closer look; sure enough, through the open door I can see a toilet. I'd just had a chat to the neighbour whilst he was having a poo. 😯

The very fact it's a flimsy flamible structure 12ft in the air and is not a fence - despite being made of fence

Just send those photos to planning. It'll have a remove notice quickly

lazy stereotyping. a very quick google came up with this, so now you can see that brown people like pigeons too

No brown people in that article and my neighbours aren't Chinese. Big place, Asia.

You're learning

You're patronising.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war with neighbours," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against an IT geek when planning permission is on the line!"

Paraphrasing a bit.... 😀

see also.

Hello, my name is Cougar. You ruined my view. Prepare to be grassed to the planning authorities

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😆

He's not racist, he's just outdated 😀

Sorry.. thought we were having a light-hearted chit chat. You did kinda deliberately miss the other points of the article so I think a little harsh to get feisty.

I don't think you should be surprised that people like all kinds of stuff.
As you were.

What a fowl thing to doo, they're avian a laugh.

Cripes, who is "theocb"?

I betcha he's the bloke whose building the muckybubblesexshed on the aforementioned garage roof.

And, well after, that date in June, it's ok to be racist. 51% voted for it.

HTHs

Paraphrasing a bit...

Inconceivable!

Inconceivable!

😆

A little while later I thought, hang on a minute, and went back out for a closer look; sure enough, through the open door I can see a toilet. I'd just had a chat to the neighbour whilst he was having a poo.

Its pretty clear you were asking if asians typically keep pigeons.

Sorry.. thought we were having a light-hearted chit chat.

I mistook your tone, apologies.

You did kinda deliberately miss the other points of the article

I didn't read it as it didn't appear relevant.

I don't think you should be surprised that people like all kinds of stuff.

I'm well aware that "people like all kinds of stuff," but as far as I'm aware it's unusual (again, hence the question). How many people of Middle Eastern descent do you know with a pigeon collection?

It was a simple, innocent question. The neighbours have built something I've never seen anywhere else in town. Ergo, it is unusual, by definition. Is there some sort of significance to pigeons that I'm not aware of (eg, are they considered sacred or something, are they likely to being bred for food, is there a long proud history of the Annual Great ****stani Racing Pigeons competition) or do I simply happen to have a neighbour with a pigeon fetish? That's it, it wasn't a loaded question. Christ, I wish I'd never asked.

Christ, I wish I'd never asked.

Other deities are available.

I did add smileys and everyfink. :0) but tone noted, I certainly wasn't attempting to be offensive or having a go as I said in my first post (perhaps a bit cheeky :0)

Isn't that the problem of lazy stereotyping though, I don't personally know anyone who keeps pigeons but why would I assume that any of my friends might enjoy it more or less because of their ethnicity or religion. You seem to be highlighting their country or continent as if it is relevant to whether your neighbour likes pigeons.

Crazy world out there. Looksy here, another very quick google http://www.npr.org/2014/10/14/356177229/in-****stan-pigeon-racing-is-more-than-a-hobby

Crazy world out there. Looksy here, another very quick google

So there you go then. The answer to my (badly worded) original question is "actually, pigeon racing is very popular in ****stan." If someone had said that in the first place we could've saved three pages of handwringing.

Thanks for the pics.
Looks like a dwelling to me. Wind will have it.
Or....
Glamping site?
&Have you checked you street on air b&b?

I don't think there a tinge of racism intended or otherwise in the posts.

The only thing that would have made it 100% pc is to say "of asian descent" rather than "asian"

I'd just had a chat to the neighbour whilst he was having a poo.

Not necessarily. Some cultures sit down to do wees. I don't know if [s]darkies[/s] sorry, people of asian descent do, but assuming he was pooing because he was sat down is dangerous stereotyping.

Unless of course you also saw him straining at the same time?

Raciest pigeon...?

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But seriously, if it does go ahead as a starting grid you could always take up falconry. And name him Xerxes...

Unless of course you also saw him straining at the same time?

One still couldn't be certain that the subject wasn't trying to pass a stone...

I've just thought. Maybe he has issues with IBS that culturally he finds it awkward to let on to. So, he's constructed an outside netty, only to find that every time he goes down there to enjoy some privacy, his busybody neighbour strikes up conversation. Hence he's now been forced to construct an elaborate pigeon loft ruse, so as he makes a sound like a flock of starlings taking off, he can cover it up with the sound of a flock of pigeons taking off. Soon you'll come to associate the sound with him starting another race, when really he'll finally be unloading in privacy and comfort.

Are you really going to deny him that by grassing him up to the planning office?

every time he goes down there to enjoy some privacy, his busybody neighbour strikes up conversation.

There's a fantastic invention which fixes that, it's called a "door."

Hence he's now been forced to construct an elaborate pigeon loft ruse

Different neighbour. But funny. (-:

Different neighbour.

It is an elaborate ruse. How does pigeon neighbour know when to let the birds go to cover the sound of IBS neighbour's defecatory disorders? Now I see that's what CG was suggesting when she asked if there were pipes or wires; a closed circuit phone system, or maybe it's just a simple 'tap on the pipe with a tin mug as the enemy reaches the gates'

These people of asian origin really are close knit communities aren't they!

So there you go then. The answer to my (badly worded) original question is "actually, pigeon racing is very popular in ****stan." If someone had said that in the first place we could've saved three pages of handwringing.

No, it wouldn't but it would have dealt with the question.

But gosh! yes how surprising! ****stanis like pigeons! Who would have thunk it!

Surely it is OK to mention that, oh, I don't know, more glider pilots are likely to be white. They are, not exclusively, but the majority are as there is a greater uptake in the predominantly white populations of predominantly white nations.

How would that be raciest? Surely it's a comment on the facts.
If I said 'White people make better glider pilots because of how their brain works' I could see a point, but even then only partially.

only partially? You're not really saying that black people and white people's brains are different are you?

After all, Africans (of certain areas) seem to make very good long distance runners. Is that raciest

But gosh! yes how surprising! ****stanis like pigeons! Who would have thunk it!

You're just trying to wind me up now aren't you.

For all I knew, there might not have even [i]been[/i] pigeons in the Middle East. How do you find things out other than by asking questions and discussing stuff? Might as well shut the forum and replace it with a redirect to google.

Honestly, you get berated on STW for being insular when you're ignorant of another demographic (and I'm not just talking about race here) and then when you try to find out something about it you get berated for that an' all. Can't bloody win.

For all I knew, there might not have even been pigeons in the Middle East

And there are no stray dogs in Vietnam.

Makes you think.