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"A vicar has apologised for telling children at a school assembly that Father Christmas does not exist.
Some of the children, aged between 5 and 11,were in tears after the Rev Simon Tatton-Brown, 65, spoke at Charter Primary School in Chippenham, and parents have threatened to boycott Christmas services at his church.
Linzi Merritt, whose son Levi 9, was at the assembly, said: "We wouldn't just walk into the church during one of his services and tell everyone Jesus isn't real. Loads of kids went home crying - it has ruined Christmas for them.
"A lot of them are now questioning the existence of the tooth fairy as well. Who knows what else he has told them? He may even have been talking about Satan as well!"
My primary 4 teacher told all of us that Santa wasn't real.
I had sort of worked it out anyway, but the teacher ended up in hot water.
The irony of you using the word 'bless' in the title is the icing on the cake of yet another dreary anti-religion thread. Don't you ever get bored?
I believed in Santa until on Christmas when he came into our bedroom and my sister suddenly yelled out: "He's wearing Daddy's slippers!"
Never mind, "Captain". At least your contribution cheered it up, eh? 😆 😛
Strange how parents indoctrinate their kids with lies and tales about a man dressed in a red suit, wellies and bad breath who will bring them presnts if they sit on his knee, let him kiss the girls, on one day in december, yet for the rest of the year warn their same kids about talking,acepting gifts or even making eye contact with another adult male.
a very weird world some parents live in.
What an utter git.
My kids love Christmas as a magical winter festival. To have somebody come and ruin it for them would be terrible.
Once they are older they can make up their own mind the Christian aspect to it. But until then they should be allowed to be kids.
That was posted on my marvelously underappreciated [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-real-father-christmas#post-5593134 ]thread[/url] yesterday 😡
if they sit on his knee, let him kiss the girls
But they don't and he doesn't. It is the 1970s anymore, you do know that don't you?
DezB - MemberThat was posted on my marvelously underappreciated thread yesterday
Sorry Dez. Did the "Captain" tell YOU off as well? 🙄
Oh no, I didn't post the story, someone else did. I just linked to some fine pictures. Like this
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Is that Jimmy Page?
It's funny though - I never told my son he doesn't exist. He worked it out for himself. And now ruins it for all his mates!
A [b]vicar[/b] has apologised for telling children at a school assembly that Father Christmas does not exist.
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"A vicar has apologised for telling children at a school assembly that Father Christmas does not exist.
Was it on a video that no one was watching ?
No - it was in a newspaper that no one was reading.
Until now.
Love it, vicar tells kids not to believe in magical friendly old men with beards.
Maybe he should practice what he preaches.
"We wouldn't just walk into the church during one of his services and tell everyone Jesus isn't real."
That's just genius.
Yes, isn't it!
Don't you ever get bored?
He never bores of attention, he revels in it, as this thread will show
Yet he is naive enough to believe in god!
I think that in a way to many of us, Woppit is like a 21st century Jesus
Junkyard - lazarusDon't you ever get bored?
He never bores of attention, he revels in it, as this thread will show
Well I certainly find it easy to get yours, eh? What are you, some sort of fish?
Wait til you see my levitation act. Follow me (over a cliff)...
Was this about "getting attention"? I thought it was 'Here's a funny story'... but I am a thick idiot.
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but I am a thick idiot.
I feel your pain brother.
I'm not sure I want to actively persuade my kids that something really definitely exists when it we know it does not.
Kids can still enjoy the make believe without having to really believe it, can't they? My daughter doesn't really believe her toys talk to her for example.
Was this about "getting attention"? I thought it was 'Here's a funny story'
Well quite. You lot *really* need to chill out...
Well I certainly find it easy to get yours, eh?
I thought I replied to someone other than you but hey you claim its attention to you - if that does not counter my attention seeking claim then really what will 😉
TBH denying it would be like me denying I like arguing ...shall we indulge each others weakness then ? 😛
I'm not sure I want to actively persuade my kids that something really definitely exists when it we know it does not
But 'he' does exist. Maybe not in the specific guise of a single, tangible being that rides a flying sleigh and can cover millions of miles in a single night, and then do SFA for the rest of the year (he even employs elves to keep watch now, FFS). But as a feeling, a spirit of Christmas if you like, then he absolutely does exist. I'm not Father Christmas, but I am a little part of him when I fill my girls stockings on christmas eve and leave teethmarks in the mince pie. Just as my Dad was, and his Dad before him.
When my girls are old enough they too can be let in on the secret and also become part of being Father Christmas. Just because you can't see it or touch it doesn't mean it's not real - otherwise that means hope, friendship, love...... aren't real either?
And yes, you can easily rewrite the above replacing it with religion too. If that's what people need to believe in to live a fulfilled life, I've no issue with that either.
Thankfully, the man in the red suit hasn't instructed us that people who don't believe in him are stupid or wrong, or to be killed for not believing. Just don't be surprised if one day you don't get any presents, you old curmudgeons.
Santa. Jesus. It's all the same.
My parents would put out a potato for the reindeer and a sherry for santa each year. In the morning the potato would have bite marks in it and the sherry would be gone. Santa? No, my parents.
Same with Jesus. Feeding of the 5,000 - that wasn't Jesus, it was Mary and Joseph cashing in club card vouchers to make the grub go further.
Parents will do anything to make us believe......
theotherjonv - I like your sentiment. It made me feel good inside - we need more people like you around.
For me, I am loving the playfulness of having my kids excited about Christmas - we have an 'Elf on the Shelf' that they rush downstairs to find each morning and they are singing beautiful Carols all the time at the moment.
And yes, you can easily rewrite the above replacing it with religion too. If that's what people need to believe in to live a fulfilled life, I've no issue with that either.
Does Jebus like mince pies too?
In our house Santa liked a can of Best Bitter. Fortunately Dad liked that too, so we usually had plenty.
theotherjonv - I like your sentiment. It made me feel good inside - we need more people like you around.
Agreed.
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theotherjonv - amen to that 8)
But as a feeling, a spirit of Christmas if you like
Spirit of Chrismtas = Father Christmas
Man who comes down chimeny = Santa
But as I say, kids are generally smart enough to understand and enjoy the former without needing concrete belief in the latter.
Especially as chimneys are far too small to admit a fat bloke. And we don't even have one. And why does his handwriting look just like my mum's?
Santa has a magic key for those that don't have a chimney.
Well, seeing as (a) I've got bigger things to worry about than the over inflated opinions of a bitter twisted individual who uses any excuse he can to pour scorn on anyone who doesn't agree on his world view, (b) I don't spend as much time on here as I used to, and (c) I could do with the inevitable enforced rest, I'd just like to use this opportunity to say woppit, you're a ****. Happy Christmas!
My son still believes in Santa and loves the magic of Christmas.
I haven't destroyed that happiness by telling him Santa's not the real deal.
So am I not a poppet, Woppit?
This thread is what 😯 and 🙄 were invented for.
I can't take the credit, I'm paraphrasing something my wife read me on the subject of when the time comes to tell our eldest that Santa isn't 'real'. When she's old enough to understand that we're all Santa, and hopefully before some misery**** gets there first.
All zealots are boring
Do you have any children Mr Woppit?
theotherjonv is spot on. Beautifully put.
Santa has a magic key for those that don't have a chimney.
Seems improbable. Sceptical toddler is sceptical.
theotherjonv, paraphrasing or not, well said.