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I love that people care so much about whether other people wash their jeans.

I do if I have to sit next to you...


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 2:37 pm
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Unwashed, I hope!

#strangest

Ironically, yes.

Worn about six times - I figured the new owner could have the pleasure of that first wash. 😉

Have to admit, I thought Beards and Axes was going to be a niche porn mag...


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 2:41 pm
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Ironically, yes.

Worn about six times - I figured the new owner could have the pleasure of that first wash

Oooooh, [b][i]indulgent[/i][/b]!

😉

(We all know what really happened....You bought 32x32 and now you've turned in to a bit of a biffer and can't fit in to them any more!)


 
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(We all know what really happened....You bought 32x32 and now you've turned in to a bit of a biffer and can't fit in to them any more!)

😆

There's an element of truth to that! I bought them, wore them a few times to break them in (they're very stiff from new) but quite low - my middle-age handles d'amour were making a bid for freedom whenever I pulled them up. Gone back to Howies higher-cut jeans until I can shed a little bit of beer muscle.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 2:47 pm
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I should add - good luck Jamie, looks like an interesting venture. Not sure the picky gits on here are the right market, but I do think there is one for the mag out there.

And yes, I also remember you in MBUK. Worryingly it was after I stopped buying it... 😯


 
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Thanks guys, it's all going shockingly well so far! Although I don't like to jinx, so I'm not counting my chickens just yet as we're only five hours in.

Cheers,
Beardy McAxerson


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 4:57 pm
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Hey, Beardy,

And although I got into rather a lot of trouble in those early teenage years - hampering sending issues to press and so on, laughing too much at the wrong moments - generally, I grabbed it and ran.

Tell us some good/funny stories about your time on MBUK and I might back you 🙂

How's that for positive?


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:09 pm
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Umm, you are aware that the definition of "Beta Male" isn't exactly something to put your face to?

"An unremarkable, careful man who avoids risk and confrontation"

Was it "Male 2.0" that you were going for?


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:18 pm
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Tell us some good/funny stories about your time on MBUK and I might back you

How's that for positive?

😀


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:19 pm
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Yeah but my whole thing is that I want to change the definition of it, that's kind of the point behind what I'm up to.

And mbuk stories? I was so long ago I can't remember too much, but anything to do with Warner always stressed me the hell out. He broke too much stuff all the time.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:20 pm
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Cheers,
Beardy McAxerson

For that alone, you deserve to succeed! 😀


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:22 pm
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I wish you the best of luck with that. It's a fairly ingrained definition and the whole alpha/beta crops up a lot on Reddit and other forums.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:22 pm
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I have to admit, I was disappointed in the title.

Mainly because I thought Beards & Axes was oddly brilliant 🙂


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:23 pm
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This thread has made me laugh lots, however I do feel a little excluded 🙁


 
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[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfs_(Discworld)#Sergeant_Cheery_Littlebottom ]Of course, the blog title is really about....[/url]


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:30 pm
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Quite right. Go and start your own 'Slummy mummy' mag 😉


 
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I have to admit, I was disappointed in the title.

Mainly because I thought Beards & Axes was oddly brilliant

+1


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:34 pm
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Nah, beards and axes came from observing some of the wildlife on here though it probably needed to mention antiquated razors and wood burners. 😉


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:37 pm
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I could build a reader profile around a Beta Male though, and a cause to fight for, whereas Beards & Axes is too loose and too flash in the pan.

However saying that, I plan to have Beards & Axes as the name of my publishing house(!).


 
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Out of interest, are you specifically trying to exclude 'alpha males' which I'd have though a lot of people who might otherwise be your demographic like to think they are whether they actually are or not?


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:44 pm
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I'm really not sure how I feel about the whole Beta Male thing, but this made me chuckle...


Pledge £500 or more
You'll get a full page, just for yourself, to do whatever you want with, as designed by us, in collaboration with you, unless we deem otherwise. You will get interviewed for a feature in the magazine about the funding process, plus you'll get a photo in there too (full details to be arranged nearer the time). Limited Edition full print version (RRP £9.99) of the issue with exclusive alternate cover with minimal coverlines (alternate to the one sold online/Apple Newsstand). You'll get a headshot and your name on the contributors' page within the magazine too (we can't specify a size of the images at this stage unfortunately, as that depends on how many contribs we get!).

As a freelance writer I expect people to pay me when I write a full page of content, and I've never got £500 for a single page. Oh, and I also usually get a copy of the magazine free too.

I guess I'm missing a trick here. Anybody interested in kickstart funding a magazine for grumpy b*stards that have a cynical outlook on life?


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:45 pm
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Hmm, great thread. I have to confess that I took one, brief, look and thought of my all-time favourite cycling website:
[url= http://internationale.teamjva.com/ ]Jahvahaah[/url]

But then, I am not your target market. I am, hangs head and lowers voice to whisper, a girl. Sorry.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:45 pm
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I'm not trying to not appeal to people who might consider themselves an alpha male, but I am very deliberately trying to distance this magazine from the trappings and goals of people who would consider themselves an alpha male in the Wolf of Wall Street sense. Those people have enough magazines.

And 500 quid for a page is a thinly disguised way of selling ads - you're not allowed by KS rules to offer rewards with a monetary value, so I've just offered a page 'to do whatever you want with'.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:51 pm
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So do you reckon you can avoid the pitfall of pretentious method-living type writing? You've listed a lot of prospective content (most of which sounds like it has potential) but no actual writing. Basically, are £200 jeans you don't wash for months going to be indicative of the content?

(and clover wins the internet today for introducing me to that brilliant site 🙂 I particularly liked the sponsors and travel sections)


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:57 pm
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I have have a history of making poor investment* choices, so you'll be disappointed to know I've pledged some money. Sorry for spoiling it like that...

Good luck. And why the hell not. Do what you love!

*gambling - I always lose. Even if I bet to lose, I'd win (and thus lose)


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 5:59 pm
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Haha 'method living' was my trying to explain how I find it helps you to achieve something if you put your mind in that headspace. With mountain biking or motorbikes or cars or whatever, I've always thrown myself totally at something, and 'living it' helps me to achieve whatever it is.

There will definitely be some content about nice jeans that you don't wash yes, but lots more besides.

And thanks for the pledge - I hope your jinx has worn off!


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 6:02 pm
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Alright, I'll put it another way as I don't think I'm phrasing myself well (which is probably why I'll never try to start a mag 🙂 ).

Is it going to be a mag that reviews £200 jeans and discusses not washing them but comes across as looking down at those that 'don't get it'. That's the bit that I reckon a lot of people would have issue with. As I said, it all seems a bit silly to me but then bikes are too so I have no fundamental problem with that so long as there's self-awareness to go with it. If there is then a look into other people's interests no matter how silly can actually be interesting.

Basically, if I found your jeans and washed them while you weren't looking, would you be jumping off a bridge after hacking me to pieces (with an axe presumably) or just be mildly hacked off? 😉


 
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For what it's worth, I now feel a creeping sense of guilt. I did, however, come up with 'Beardy McAxerson' so I figure we're about equal now. Anyhow, good luck with the mag, despite it being something I'm not at all likely to buy in to.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 6:10 pm
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Honestly, if I was not washing my jeans and you stole them and washed them for me then I'd be pretty furious yes!

But at the same time I can completely understand why that sort of obsession seems crazy to some people so I'd never look down on someone who didn't get it.

Pretty much everything that I've ever been into loads of people haven't got. From bikes and F1 to jeans and beards. Makes the world go round that sort of thing. I love peoples' niche obsessions.


 
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Beardy McAxerson is great, I think I'm going to put it on a t-shirt (I might sell Beta Male 'Beardy McAxerson' t-shirts in a kind of huge twist of irony!).

Cockmonkey though, I wasn't so chuffed with that. It was a little uncalled for. Well, a lot uncalled for.


 
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I'm sure that you'll get called worse than that over the years if you're running a business 🙂

Makes the world go round that sort of thing. I love peoples' niche obsessions.

Actually, I agree, it can be hugely interesting. Might even stretch to giving you some backing to see if you can manage it...


 
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Well that would be awfully kind, thank you 🙂


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 6:45 pm
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I love peoples' niche obsessions.

I bet you do, you filthy little (big?) man.


 
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The thing is, I take the piss, as do a lot of people on here. As somebody already said, it's banter. If my cockmonkey comment upset you, then I'm sorry. Still can't get my head round method living though, but as I'm sure you realise, I'm not part of your target demographic. I no longer have a beard, I don't own an axe, and I wash my jeans (just boring levis I'm afraid) whenever they get mucky. With regard to you being interested in buying a sportster, I'd try one first. They're a bit small and skinny, and if you really want a Harley, big twins is where it's at baby!


 
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I think I want a small skinny bike first to be honest, big and heavy gives me the fear right now. Really not very big as a human.


 
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You'd be fine with one of the bigger Harleys as all the weight's low down. I loved my sportster when I first got it, as I'd wanted a Harley for years, but I quickly got fed up with the fact that it was so skinny and always felt a bit too cramped. Also got bored with the 'it's a girl's bike' comments from other Harley owners. I think the streetbob is not a lot more expensive than the sportster iron, and to be honest, you'd be getting a lot more bang for your buck.


 
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I can't claim to be interested in beards, axes or jeans (2nd hand older-type Levis 758s for me, every time)... but I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I [i]always[/i] used to mis-read your surname, and I simply assumed that you were related to the great Sally Hibberd. 😀

[img] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=241387 [/img]

my all-time favourite cycling website

@Clover - that site is a thing of beauty, ta for linking.


 
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Yeah she's my mum. I changed the spelling so people wouldn't always go 'oh Sally is your mum'.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 7:12 pm
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Yeah she's my mum

Every day is a [s]school[/s] [i]MBUK[/i] day.


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 7:18 pm
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[b]oh Sally is your mum[/b]


 
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Ha she's not really! People used to think that anyway mind.


 
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Paul Smith is your dad though, right?


 
Posted : 06/03/2014 7:23 pm
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Ha she's not really! People used to think that anyway mind.

I preferred you when you insulted us and looked like you might flounce 😛


 
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Smiff isn't old enough to be my dad! He is possibly my truest friend in all the world though. An amazingly cool, clever man.

I'll come back and flounce tomorrow.


 
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An amazingly cool, clever man.

[img] http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=107433 [/img]

No words needed. 😉


 
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