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Do you have a shower every time you use the bog?
Or fart?
And you don't sweat?
They always have at least one on the MBUK editorial team. ๐
Zak Tempest, anyone?
People wash jeans?
I wear the same pair of jeans all day, every day. They usually get washed every 3 or 4 months, but I did go 11 months once.
He's worked for 3 fairly major magazines in the UK, he extols the virtues of being a good dad, he's trying to do something with his life. Good luck to the guy
This.
If you buy your jeans from Asda or Matalan, the magazine's probably not for you.
Eeeeeeeeeeew.
Sings - 'Mike T smells of wee, smells of wee, smells of wee....'
His little bit on motorcycling is good and I'm sure he's a great dad.
Bet he can't fold his jeans even with a cricket bat though.
Denim's not like hair - it doesn't self clean if you leave it long enough.
I had a flatmate who didn't clean his clothes.
Ever.
He stank.
Denim's not like hair - it doesn't self clean if you leave it long enough.
Hair doesn't self clean, just the level of grease stabilises. You still need to wash muck out of it eg pour a pint of soup on your head and you'll smell of soup several hours later...
You know what I mean.
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If you don't wash your jeans for 6 months, they'll still be filthy.
No matter how many tins of soup you pour on your own head.
I don't use deodorant or anti-antiperspirant either. But, I shower every day, manage to go to the loo without pissing on myself, and can eat without spilling ๐
Ultraviolet light is anti-bacterial, so hanging them out in the sun to air off will kill the bacteria. Lots of people who don't wash jeans stick them in a freezer, inside a plastic bag, for 24 hours to kill off bacteria too.
You don't sweat then?
Ultraviolet light is anti-bacterial, so hanging them out in the sun to air off will kill the bacteria.
Well, that's that sorted then.
[b]DESTROY NINETY-NINE PERCENT OF KNOWN BACTERIA WITH PRE-SLICED, RUSTPROOF, EASY-TO-HANDLE, LOW CALORIE SIMPSON'S INDIVIDUAL EMPEROR SUN-ETTES, FREE FROM ARTIFICIAL COLORING, AS USED IN HOSPITALS![/b]
Denim is anti-bacterial, 12month old jeans are just as hygenic as new. So there's no need to wash untill they get grubby
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sounds like someone is desperately trying to justify spending a stupid amount of money on some cotton trousers
Why would you choose not to wash your jeans? Either I'm missing some kind of point here, or one of us is a bit weird. And as for lots of people sticking their jeans in the freezer - really?
As far as beardy mcaxerson is concerned, I'm not disputing the fact that he's a good dad or otherwise, I'm simply stating that he comes across as a bit of a cockmonkey, what with all the method living nonsense.
Tell you what.
Buy a white pair of jeans and try wearing them for six months without washing them.
See how you feel then.
*SPITS ON HANKY*
Come here you scruffy 'apeth.
[i] them in a freezer, inside a plastic bag, for 24 hours to kill off bacteria too. [/i]
I thought freezers just stopped bacteria multiplying rather than killed them?
So your jeans would be just as mank coming out but no more than they were when they went in?
Ultraviolet light is anti-bacterial, so hanging them out in the sun to air off will kill the bacteria. Lots of people who don't wash jeans stick them in a freezer, inside a plastic bag, for 24 hours to kill off bacteria too.
Or you could wash them once in while. ๐
Wouldn't life be boring if we were all the same?
It'd smell nicer, that's for sure.
So why don't you wash them?
How can you wear something regularly for 6 months and not get them grubby
There is research on this and what is showed was that after about a week the jeans got no more manky...it did not show that 6 month unwashed etc were clean.
Ultraviolet light is anti-bacterial, so hanging them out in the sun to air off will kill the bacteria.
As we live on planet earth sprayed daily [ ok sometimes] with ultraviolet light I am wondering why we still have germs.
Do you think a turd left out in the sun is bacteria free?
As for freezing them - its no more trouble to wash them IMHO
I thought freezers just stopped bacteria multiplying rather than killed them?
Nope: bacteria contain water and water expands when frozen. It's not effective as a form of sterilization, but it does prevent niffs.
How often do the "OMG, must wash jeans" crowd sterilize their shoes?
As we live on planet earth sprayed daily [ ok sometimes] with ultraviolet light I am wondering why we still have germs.
A quick Google tells me sunlight will kill bacteria, provided the clothes completely dry out.
Do you think a turd left out in the sun is bacteria free?
If it's completely dried out, and all parts are exposed. (You'd presumably need to grind it up to a powder.)
As for freezing them - its no more trouble to wash them IMHO
It's not about avoiding the trouble of washing.
Straw man we are talking about washing not sterilising.
Ps take some rancid meat free of bacteria- freeze it - you really want to argue its bacteria/contamination free?
take some rancid meat free of bacteria- freeze it - you really want to argue its bacteria/contamination free?
Straw man: we're talking about fabric used to enclose legs, not to be ingested.
I am not you claimed it killed bacteria so it would be bacteria free like your jeans.
What you do with it is irrelevant the fact is it either exits the freezer free or not. .
Perhpas freezing ONLY kills bacteria on jeans or things you wont ingest ๐
A quick Google
Well if we have gone this high brow and scientific I am out ๐
I love that people care so much about whether other people wash their jeans.
So why don't you wash them?
Go on, tell us.
Is it like the Hell's Angels?
Used to knock about with a couple of Angels from the midlands, Bod & Scuzz (I kid you not), who said as an initiation ceremony their jeans were subject to being soaked with every kind of bodily secretion known to man.
They were not allowed to wash them afterwards.
You don't strike me as the type to join t'Angels though Mike.
So why don't you wash them?
If you wear untreated jeans for a decent length of time, you get nice, personalised wear patterns when you do wash them for the first time.
Some interesting numbers/facts on bacteria and smells in this article: [url= http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/01/19/not-washing-jeans-for-15-months-ok-healthwise-at-least-study/ ]Not washing jeans for 15 months OK, health-wise at least: study[/url]
But I get the same effect by wearing prewashed jeans until they develop wear.
What's the difference?
Serious question.
It's not the same.
Some nice examples here: http://www.rawrdenim.com/special/fade-friday/
I suppose it's like the nice patination that furniture develops over time. You could go to a shop and buy a dining table that's been deliberately bashed about with a bag of nails, or you could buy a good quality wooden table and use it for years as it gradually shows signs of wear.
Fake "shabby chic" bought in John Lewis vs some old furniture bought at auction or at a fair
Buying a brand new cafe racer motorbike vs making one yourself
Radio 2 vs 6 Music ๐
All you're doing is exaggerating the wear pattern that would develop anyway?
Is that it?
This thread has made me feel dirty, and not in the good way
All you're doing is exaggerating the wear pattern that would develop anyway?
Kind of. A better defined wear pattern?
Ok, fair enough. ๐
At least you didn't buy the preworn ones.
I hate those.
And relic'd guitars.
Surely cheating a bit though?
Wouldn't a prewashed pair look the same eventually?
Take longer, but the satisfaction would be greater 'cos you'd put more effort in.
Be even more 'authentic and personal' too.
All my jeans look like the ones on that site, the difference is that mine are 15 or so years old. I'm sure there's some kind of irony present in the way urban hipster types strive so hard for authenticity that they turn into caricatures.
As for Beardy McAxerson (super name!), he's got it all going on, the finger tats, the slicked back shaved hair, the beard. Trying so hard, bless him.
Interesting website Mike. ๐
Slubbiness is an excellent word.
I'll see if I can slip it into post pancake conversation later.
Might even try a pair of sweaty jeans myself.
Mike - going on 2 no wash now : )
I looked at the site and thought it was a masterful, extremely knowing satire on pretentious middle-aged men with a denim fetish.
But on further examination it seems to be for real, and I feel disappointed.
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In a similar vein: there is a shop near me called "Bike, Book and Hatchet" - is there a more STW shop in existence?
Guys, I've got to admit that reading this thread has been astonishing.
Firstly, it starts off by completely missing what I'm actually attempting to do, and instead focusses on my tiny blog through which I've been trying out a few things to hone my idea.
There then ensues plenty of half-cocked, knee-jerk reactions.
Secondly, the irony was not lost on me that a lot of focus was brought to bear on a post about my jeans (which I do love), which a lot of you apparently hated and thought was a waste of time, only to then have a massive chat all on your own about the merits of washing jeans or not, which is pretty much why I decided to not wash my jeans in the first place.
And then thirdly, you resorted to making up inane nicknames for me so you could laugh at what a loser I am.
Honestly, this is the sort of ignorance you don't get to experience in many places.
I would advise that before disparaging me or my magazine idea, that you at least wait until I launch it on Thursday, read everything I've got to say, and then make your minds up.
If after that you think it's all rubbish, then fair enough.
Thanks again for the support.
Lots of love,
Beardy McAxerson aka Cockmonkey
is there a more STW shop in existence?
An Audi dealership with a personality disorder and a sideline in pretentious overpriced watches?
Hello Beardy McAxerson aka Cockmonkey ( ๐ )
Apart from the non washing of jeans thing (which wasn't really you, it was mike the dirty norverner) that makes my legs itch and the being a father thing, it sounds quite interesting and shall look out for your mag. Good luck!
(Really don't think the average stw'er is going to be your target audience though so don't be surprised at their comments!)
Thanks mate!
I just can't believe people can go around with such a blinkered vision of the world...
Jamie
I haven't actually met any STWers but I imagine most of them to be similar to Jeremy Clarkson in both outlook and dress sense. So don't pay them much mind. Good luck with the mag.
I have a pair of selvedge Edwins I bought in 2008 that I have still to wash btw.
Jamie.
Not laughing at you personally, just the whole idea of not washing your pants for 6 months.
It is a bit odd really, isn't it?
I've looked at your blog but I still don't quite get what you're trying to do?
Or why you don't wash your jeans, but that other site explains that.
I think.
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Good luck with the mag, hope it works for you.
BTW, if this thread has upset you, have a look at the recent Top Gear threads.
A bit of insider knowledge would be interesting.
and if youโve got anything to say, good or bad, then please get in touch, or tweet @jamiehibbard. Thanks for stopping by!
... but don't say anything not nice? ๐
Get a grip lad; if you're blogging and publishing, people might like it, or might not.
Honestly, this is the sort of ignorance you don't get to experience in many places.
This is what makes STW so great ๐
Get a grip lad; if you're blogging and publishing, people might like it, or might not.
He's obviously new to this internet thing and thinks everyone will love him....
[i]I just can't believe people can go around with such a blinkered vision of the world... [/i]
you're new here so we'll forgive you that ๐
I'm sure you'll find a lot of people are prepared to wait and see.
It's different and new that causes a knee jerk reaction around here, people calm down after a bit and start to think rationally.