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Here you go Mr Brexiteer i give you 100 pennies, one penny is a magic "fish" penny now this magic penny is worth much more than 40 "EU" pennies.. so i will keep the 40 worthless pennies and you can have your magic penny.
Brilliant, but accurate.
Looks like Barnier is playing a blinder (for the EU).
Explanation for the simpletons please?
We are cutting our nose off to spite our face over fishing?
Or we are fighting tooth and nail for a very small bit of GDP (magic penny)that we actually sell most of that GDP to the EU then letting the big GDP disappear
It simply confirms how retarded this country is.
Every fish penny comes with a magic unicorn
...and a blue passport!
They must be laughing their collective arses off at our fish obsession.
My favourite analogy was the stock broker who gave up his job to enable him to give his son a lift on a paper round.
Posted a few weeks ago on t'other brexit thread...
UK exports about 80% of it's fish catch to the EU; most of the fish eaten in the UK is imported from the EU.
This is the hill on which a trade deal will fall; complete lunacy; absolute ****g madness.
UK exports about 80% of it’s fish catch to the EU; most of the fish eaten in the UK is imported from the EU.
Is this some sort of take back cod troll?
Is this some sort of take back cod troll?
Lolz. First plaice prize for that!
Shhhhh.... Don't break the spell.
That magic penny will be touted (trouted?) as being the be all and end all and *totally* worth it to cult members.
Shhhhhh....
Is this some sort of take back cod troll?
Brill joke.
Eel go far.
Cod almighty.
I'm a beginner, be nice
Whale I'm still whiting for a sole advantage of Brexit to appear.
The UK is never going to be the plaice Brexiteers want it to be if we get fishy delas like this.
UK definitely floundering in the negotiations; time to turbo(t) charge them.
Stuck between a rock salmon and a hard plaice
UK exports about 80% of it’s fish catch to the EU; most of the fish eaten in the UK is imported from the EU.
So why don’t we just eat the fish we catch?
So why don’t we just eat the fish we catch?
Apparently it's the wrong type of fish.
The stuff the French like to eat lives in our sea, and the stuff we like to eat lives in theirs.
We mainly eat white fish, daftly mackerel being food of the gods. They eat all sorts and like frozen.
Cos we're peasants who pretty much only eat cod, 'addock and plaice.
Ie the stuff that Johnny foreigner catches.
Mackerel and sardines are volume catches in UK waters but the great british public don't much like them; the french do so we export.
Are those figures for fish caught in UK waters or fish landed at UK ports?
Fishy data:
Deep fishy data:
https://www.seafish.org/insight-and-research/market-supply-data-and-insight/
(I would guess that it is catches landed in the UK, but not certain without digging into the second link - which I don't have the appetite for!)
Edit - FrankConway's link is better.
I’m a beginner, be nice
Don’t you worry, everyone here loves boobs.
greyspoke - here's a link for you which provides headline numbers; if you then click on the full report Section 4 provides detail on the trade in fish - showing imports/exports by type and country.
We are a net importer (no pun intended) of cod but we also export some; same applies to other types.
At face value that seems ridiculous but I'm sure there's a (good) reason.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fishing-industry-in-2019-statistics-published
johnx2
Free MemberWe mainly eat white fish, daftly mackerel being food of the gods.
Testify! Though, it does mean that mackerel's often cheaper, we've got a fish van dude that comes round every friday and my mackerel's always cheaper than the haddock. And unsmoked haddock is just white mush that tastes of nothing, unless you coat it in breadcrumbs in which case it's white mush that tastes of breadcrumbs.
It seems that both sides are being rather petty and shellfish
Thanks for the links @frank. According to the detailed report:
A smallish amount of UK landed fish comes from foreign registered boats (mainly Norwegian). And UK boats land fish abroad (mainly mackerel and herring to Norway). So those would count as imports and exports respectively.
There is a breakdown by where caught but that is not according to territorial waters. So for example the North Sea is divided into Northern and Southern parts, both of which would include UK and non-UK waters. But it looks like UK territorial fish are the major part of the catch.
We eat Tuna, Prawns and Salmon (not Scottish), and you don't see them in the north sea. Jeez, I hope one day someone is held to account for all of this.
For cods hake.... I can't take the puns
Once upon a time...and everyone lived happily ever after - in the 27 EU states.
Couldn’t the boats meet up in no mans land (sic) and just swap catches?
God, this is easy. Next!
Just don't ask why the shops have New Zealand lamb in...
Back on track...
They must be laughing their collective arses off at our fish obsession.
I'm sure they would if it didn't mean that they're going to sell less Audi's/mountain bikes/wood burners etc etc etc as the prices will all shoot up due to WTO tariff rules.
It's bloody madness. A more pragmatic approach would be to nationalise the whole industry, scuttle the boats and retire the fishermen on decent pensions, even the young ones! But no, we'll screw the whole economy for an industry worth fractions of a percent of GDP.
But Blue Passports! ****ing idiots.
Bonkers, utterly bonkers. Cornwall last summer, boat off loading a shed load of crabs (spider and brown) and lobster, asked if they're going to the local fishmongers, answer; no mate most of this lot if off to France and Spain. WTAF!! Fantastic produce, bugger all food miles and we're export it.
Just to catch up on puns can you put that in whiting I am a bit hard of herring.
Meanwhile I was listening to R4 last night Is Britain Ready for Brexit?
One of the many things that didn't make sense was over fishing. The concern was that road transport delays at Dover would mean the cargo of fish bound for Europe would go off and be ruined.
It appears we catch fish in the Channel land it in UK put it on a lorry and send it to France.
Lets assume the French do likewise. Is it too simplistic to suggest the fishing boat fishing the Channel lands it in France and ditto the French boats here?
I know this is a bit late in the day as we are about to abandon the single market but has fish been excluded from the single market or is it run by M&M Enterprises buy?
We eat Tuna, Prawns and Salmon (not Scottish), and you don’t see them in the north sea. Jeez, I hope one day someone is held to account for all of this.
Loads of prawn trawlers in the north sea, every salmon that makes it's way up river has came from the sea, and the only reason you don't see Tuna off Yorkshire* is cos it was fished to extinction in the last century.
*Though there has been a fair few reports of them coming back.
https://www.theguardianbrexit-fishing-gamble-suggests-no-10-forgot-its-economics-homework
About sums it up.
Essentially we are going to make a huge issue out of something that is of very little concern to most of us, in order to appease a tiny minority.
A bit like Brexit
I do think there's a potential for a sea change though.
When the restaurant trade died on it's arse in Spring, obviously demand completely dropped off at my local fish market, one of the local boats decided to change tack and now bypasses the market, sell straight to the public. They sell out in 3 hours every time they rock up at the harbour, take card payment, online orders, it's brilliant. Here's their list from last week -
Large Prawns - £10/Kg
🦐 Prawn Tails - £6/Kg
🦞Lobster - £10/kg
🦞Cooked Lobster - £9/kg
🐟 Whole Monkfish - £6.50/Kg
🐟 Whole Cod - £5/Kg
🐟 Lemon sole - £7/kg
🐟 whole Haddock - £4/kg
🐟 Haddock Fillets - £1.50 per fillet
🐟 Smoked Haddock Fillets - £2 per fillet
🐚 Shucked Scallops - £8 for 5
🐙 Octopus - £4/kg
🦑 Squid - £7/kg
Brexit negotiations are starting to remind me of the history of WW1. Incompetent aristocracy in charge. A million lives lost, 400 yards gained.
🐙 Octopus – £4/kg
^^^^
That's a deal!
Spent some time in Thesaloniki, going out with a girl who lived near a cafe that did take away battered octopus and chips. New cultural experiences eh...
We're going to end up eating lot more shellfish. I'm alright with that, I do wonder what battered lobster will taste like with my chips...
Hope they remove the shell first...
Even The Guardian's resident Brexiter is having second thoughts:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/03/boris-johnson-fishing-brexit-deal-eu-britain
And let's look at what he said in 2016...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/06/brexit-britain-property-bubble