“Running a pub (I’ve had mates who have done in the past, and good mates who still do) is the only job where if you make your boss – the PubCo – more money through your successful management, you then get punished by them for it with increased rent and decreased beer prices”
Its all about the retro
12 Santa's will be in our local spoons tomorrow morning at 8am for our annual Christmas ride, brekkie and a pint and then 34ish miles.
And as for the comment about JDW selling it for less than it costs a free house to buy , guess what. Total BS . I can run the numbers , but i can assure you its a total fabrication.
Wind it in old boy, I never said free house, I simply said proper pubs, and I stand by my comment for I can also "run the numbers".
But for clarification to those who don't know the business, a large chain free house like 'spoons can buy a barrel at less than half the price your friendly tied landlord can.
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Has this been done?
It seems someone is also not adverse to running a few stories about Spoons that parody the owners, Erm, liberal interpretation of the truth.😆
07:59... nearly there...
Every jdw pub also has the cleanest and tidiest cellars. They are usually large . Well lit. At the correct temperature,spotless,with all the casks labeled for stock control. As opposed to the majority of pubs where the cellar is in a complete mess. There are puddle s of mouldy beer over the floor, keg caps and other rubbish blocking the sump pump, the cellar smells of acetic vinegar and the casks have no spiles in them.thenyou get a flat duff pint as the stinky air. Is sucked into the cask with every pint dispense d
And it the majority unfortunately
A group of chaps, all aged 40, discussed where they should meet for a reunion lunch. Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because all the waitresses had big breasts and wore very short skirts.
Ten years later, at age 50, the friends once again discussed where they should meet for lunch. Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because the food and service was good and the beer selection was excellent.
Ten years later, at age 60, the friends again discussed where they should meet for lunch. Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because there was plenty of parking, they could dine in peace and quiet, and it was goodvalue for money.
Ten years later, at age 70, the friends discussed where they should meet for lunch. Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because the restaurant was wheelchair accessible and had a toilet for the disabled.
Ten years later, at age 80, the friends discussed where they should meet for lunch. Finally it was agreed that they would meet at Wetherspoons in Uxbridge because they had never been there before.
And where did they choose at age 90?
And where did they choose at age 90?
Witherspoons?
The (sadly no longer with us) comedienne Linda Smith summed up Wetherspoons perfectly as "reeking of oven chips and disappointment".
I don't get the Whole Wetherspoons bashing at all, they are actually a decent company (Brexit owner aside). The pubs are kept in good condition and usually put in a building that was derelict (old cinema, closed pub etc). As in my work I get to see a lot of the rear ends of businesses I can happily say that what singletrackmind says about their cellars and stock conditions is 100% accurate, always good as they get bollocked if it's not. Same for they all have 5* food hygiene ratings and the food is always of a good quality. Prices are good too.
As for the OP's point about 8am drinking Wetherspoons get that as they are one of the few places open serving at that time of the morning, if they weren't the pissheads would be somewhere else that opens earlier. The problem is the UK#s culture with regards to alcohol, something I'm massively more aware of since I went teetotal 7 years ago. It's available everywhere for cheap, at the supermarket, corner shop, petrol station etc. Same as with fast food, chocolate, crisps and gambling. Everything that we as a country have problems with is available everywhere, anytime for not too much money. How we fix it I don't know but the problem is complex.
They get bashed because they're owned by a tit, they're the McDonald's of pubs, and because they're uncool.
Meanwhile, I was in one yesterday and noticed that the Brexit propaganda was posted "back of house" too. So it's not just the punters that are getting the gammon messaging, it's the workers too.
Never trust a man whos face is too small for his head.
Never trust a man whos face is too small for his head.
LOL! I don't think Sajid Javid MP should be trusted either!
As opposed to the majority of pubs
You must be the first person I've known that has visited the cellars of the majority of pubs.
I haven't visited the majority of pubs, but thankfully singletrackmind's description is far from the truth of my experience.
I have no idea why he or she would find barrels with no spiles in (bar the ever more common vertical extraction), it is again the opposite of my experience.
I will reiterate that I have only worked in a few pubs, not the majority like others(!), but every pub I have worked in has had full marks from cask marque and been featured in the good beer guide.
Plus our chips are made from potato.
Nowt wrong with a gammon breakfast.
There doesn't seem to be the same Brexit paraphernalia on show in the spoons north of the border, maybe only in the 'gammon belt' counties in the south?.
I like Wetherspoons. I've just been booking accommodation for a leisurely Lands End to John o Groats next year. I'll possibly be getting my evening meal along with a couple of pints in Wetherspoons every night as far as Penrith.
I know the beer will be cheap and decent quality and the food acceptable with decent portions
In my local area there are some good alternative pubs to Wetherspoons. There's also pubs where you'll pay a god bit more for no better food or beer. Hard to beat a Spoons for cheap food and beer in a place you don't know.
depends what you call "the south" ?
Carlisle was where I saw the brexshit propaganda, which is positively north 😉
Mibbe the gammon belt is bigger than first thought Andy!
Maybe he doesn't think the northerners need much convincing
Those of us in 'the actual north' are well aware of how we voted, twas you southerners that 'didn't need convincing' 🤣
