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It wasn't your thread title but the sentence in your post:Isnt it time all dogs like this were shot along with their owners.
Exactly when did I make that comment please? 🙄
The owner of the dog is described as a white male, aged approximately 38 to 40 years old, with cropped blond hair.They had left the scene when the Metropolitan Police and London Ambulance arrived.
Responsible dog owner that!
Exactly when did I make that comment please?
Indeed. You didn't. Your post was perfectly reasonable. I don't know why it was attacked and misquoted. Perhaps an untrained poster.
Quite DD. 😀
do you mean yappy and annoying? 😀
Yeah probably Junky - anyway not worth adding insult to idiocy. Previous post edited
The owner of the dog is described as a white male, aged approximately 38 to 40 years old, with cropped blond hair.
Just about a description of me, no mention of tattoos though, so I'm off the hook. 😀
I may not like dogs, but the issue is not the dogs themselves, it is the sort of person who chooses certain breeds of dog.
Around here i see a lot of bull terriers with the chavs, i also see a fair few malamutes although the owners tend to be wealthier, neither of them are dogs i really want to be near, but i could expand that to Collies, Alsatians, Dobermans, Rotties, etc etc. Basically any dog that i know the owner can only control through respect.
The owner may be in control, just i know there are too many people who can't.
don simon - Member
these threads serve no useful purpose except in the form of trolling and allowing others people with extremist views to pollute the interweb with their intolerance and ignorance.
What you mean just like you, pmsl oh the hypocrisy.
What you mean just like you, pmsl oh the hypocrisy.
Where's the hypocrisy? Is that a synonym of pointing the finger and laughing?
No just the usual pish trotted out when someone dosnt like a thread topic of a view expressed in one.
After all you have to remember its just a mountain bike forum not a UN debating chamber. i.e. its hardly serious or important.
No just the usual pish trotted out when someone dosnt like a thread topic of a view expressed in one.
The definition of pish;
Isnt it time all dogs like this were shot along with their owners.
No just the usual pish trotted out when someone dosnt like a thread topic of a view expressed in one.
I do worry that people think that views like this...
Isnt it time all dogs like this were shot along with their owners.
Are not only normal and acceptable but that anyone who criticises them is somehow made to feel to be the odd one. I tend to feel that anyone who would want the mass killing of a group as being somewhat extreme.
I would also consider a dangerous dog attack on a 6 year old child as being both serious and important.
But hey, each to their own I suppose.
I still haven't been told where my hypocrisy is... Hang on it's pish and not hypocrisy. I hope that you're lucky enough not to be on the receiving end of illogical and badly thought out prejudices.
So perhaps the idea of shooting the dogs and their owneres is a bit ott. Even the doggy mob cant object to licences surely? £50 say, adhere to certain standards, no licence no dog.
Less children attacked and probably less chavs carrying knives to protect themselves from chavs hanging on to dogs.
I hope that you're lucky enough not to be on the receiving end of illogical and badly thought out prejudices
yes there is nothing worse
Like you I prefer the well thought out and logical prejudices like ......erm like....erm ...erm ....
All Dogs worrying children will be shot!
A 12 year old girl in the states suggested a compulsory DNA database for dogs to reduce fouling. She was ignored.
Now some mayors round the world are considering it.
Combined with an incentive scheme where owners get paid to register and placement of sheperds with rifles and some sheep in urban parks, I reckon this could be a good incentive and deterrent.
Even the doggy mob cant object to licences surely?
I personally have no problem with licences or background checks, I do have problems with baseless generalisations and jerking knees. I assume that we could have licences in other areas of life too for things that cause me problems loud noise, tail gaters and particularly loud and tasteless shirts.
Like you I prefer the well thought out and logical prejudices like ......erm like....erm ...erm ....
😆 😉
You know what? People get run over by cars, they fall off ladders and cliffs and roofs, scald themselves with kettles and baths, burn themselves while ironing, get crushed by falling trees, squashed at football matches, bitten by dogs, shot by others, shot by themselves, injure themselves with DIY tools, drown while swimming, drown in ferry accidents... the point is, bad things happen, that's life. You can't ban everything and you can't keep making laws (because lots of laws encourage people to abdicate responsibility for their own actions).
How many dogs are there in this country? I don't know - millions I expect. Every now and then there's an accident. I am very very sorry about the little girl, a very bad thing to happen, but accidents do happen. I bet you dog biting accidents are very low as a percentage of how many dogs there are.
Also, when do we get to hear about the good dogs do? Ah, no, that doesn't sell papers. We never hear how dogs help depressed people back to health or how autistic children respond to dogs where they cannot respond to other humans, what about assistance dogs? or companion dogs? Nope, we never hear about all that.
Shouldn't we be examining society to see why some members feel they need to project their hostility/rage/violence through their dogs? In any event, this should be dealt with individually, not with a scatter-gun, let's shoot 'em all strategy.
I blame the personification of dumb animals
Karinfonine- could not put it better myself.
An owner problem not a dog problem? Like gun violence in America is an owner problem not a gun problem? Take away the dogs, take away this particular problem.
Then shoot the owners.
Whats p1sses me off most is these fekwits (& you can see them coming, all macho posturing etc) think having a dog like a pitbull et al makes them more of a man. Frankly I feel sorry for the dimwitted twits.
I wouldn't describe a child being bitten by a dog as an accident.
if she'd tripped and fallen into it's mouth, that might be an accident.
but a dog biting a child is not an accident.
dog = accident waiting to happen..?
An owner problem not a dog problem? Like gun violence in America is an owner problem not a gun problem? Take away the dogs, take away this particular problem.
As guns are banned in the UK, the people have knives. As knives are being banned the people have [i]dangerous[/i] dogs. Banning the dogs sounds like a great idea. I just wonder what will be used as the next measure of machismo.
Perhaps I need to think this one through a bit more carefully...
Blimey stevewhyte goes quiet when he's challenged..at least he accepts his views are unimportant.
I bet you dog biting accidents are very low as a percentage of how many dogs there are.
Did the dog bite the person by accident or did it do it on purpose?
There are no examples of someone being bitten by accident by a dog to the extent they nearly loose an ear and require plastic surgery. That is not an accident it is an attack with multiple injuries sustained.
FFS a young child requires plastic surgery and you call it an accident.
Dogs are great but not them all or all their owners.
Status on internet forums, it's for sure the next big thing...As guns are banned in the UK, the people have knives. As knives are being banned the people have dangerous dogs. Banning the dogs sounds like a great idea. I just wonder what will be used as the next measure of machismo
Anyhow, shouldn't the guns be banned here? The knives? Why not the dogs too?
And then, yeah, some kind of control of big hitters too 😉
Why not the dogs too?
Because the people who are responsible for this violence will just find another weapon?
Apart from the police saying it was "unprovoked", does anyone have more details of this particular attack before we slaughter innocent animals?
And then, yeah, some kind of control of big hitters too
I don't think he's seen the thread yet, but it won't be long before we get the [i]dogs must be under sufficient control to pacify me and my dislike of dogs[/i] speech. 😛
dont you think its time these pitbulls were made to wear a lead permanently / i hope a new law comes into force for this type of dog ...
ive said time and time again "dog owners just dont understand the mind of a dog = 'people are people' and 'dogs are dogs' thats it, if dogs have tthe sudden instinct to attack = they will.. reguardless if the owners think thier dog is normal and well behaved at home...many dog owners i come across always say 'oh my dog is friendly-he wont hurt you or your dog..
cough cough ( a dog is always hunting ! thats what they do....
im not saying all dogs are like this : but your dog has a different brain to humans (im just saying (YOU CANT THINK FOR YOUR DOG).... dogs will be dogs ... 😉
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And that means that people shouldn't be banned from carrying weapons? Just because they'll find another?Because the people who are responsible for this violence will just find another weapon?
Apart from the police saying it was "unprovoked", does anyone have more details of this particular attack before we slaughter innocent animals?
And that means that people shouldn't be banned from carrying weapons? Just because they'll find another?
Only insomuch as treating the symptoms rather than looking for a cure is seen as being acceptable and by some a solution. It simply demonstrates that people are the problem and not the weapons that they choose. Fine ban dogs, what will we ban next? A plastic knife, I think you will agree in its current state is quite harmless, in the wrong hangs... Fine let's ban them!!! Where would you like to stop?
dont you think its time these pitbulls were made to wear a lead permanently
they are supposed to be muzzled when in public at all times, we have a law that should deal with the problem of the breeds labelled dangerous. Problem is proving whats a pit bull or part pitbull. Another law would seem to me to be not the answer if we already have one that isnt working.
Collies are nippers - not excusing what they do, but they very rarely savage another animal. I've been bitten by a collie after I wound it up but never attacked by one. Pit bulls are bred to fight and kill.
Pit bulls are bred to fight and kill.
And fortunately there are very few around.
Pit bulls are bred to fight and kill... other dogs
Its what I dont get, if I wanted a protection dog, I'd have a GSD, even the most friendly and well trained ones you really wouldnt want to start pushing the owners around.
A lot of people are using dogs instead of knives.
I tried it and ended up with hair all over my toast.
There is a problem with some dogs and some owners but not all dogs and not all owners
I dont see why we would not wish to consider something appropriate and proportional to further reduce the risks of such occurrences
Muzzle dogs in public?
Separate areas for dogs only in public areas?
Licences?
Vet checks?
register of approved owners??
A N other suggestion
I suspect there is something between shooting the owners and the "accident" view and we could perhaps do something appropriate.
I dont see why we would not wish to consider something appropriate and proportional to further reduce the risks of such occurrences
Enforce current laws I would suggest.
Karinofnine - there should be a 'like' button for contributions like yours! Well said 😉
As a confirmed dog, and dog-owner hater I reckon the owners of these sort of dogs should be treated by the courts in the same way as if they'd taken a knife the kiddies face....
Karineofnine
A dog bite is not an accident.
monkeyboyjc - Member
i do beleive that dog licences should be brought back with mandatory chipping.
gingerss - Member
You attach draconian penalties to unlicensed/unchipped dogs/owners. Random stop checks and some high profile cases to make examples of people...
Owner is ultimately responsible for their dogs actions, whether they are present or not. This would mean of a dog rips a childs face off, they are tried as if they had personally done it.
I would add that it should be the owners responsibilty to demonstrate that their dog is not a dangerous breed (or crossbreed of one) to be registered.
The quotes above were mentioned on the first page and make total sense, especially if combined and funded through a license fee.
The technology for chipping must be more affordable now than when licenses were last required in '87.
Responsible dog owners would not object to paying the fee if it could be demonstrated that removing dangerous breeds would make their dog-walks safer. Most dangerous dogs are vicious towards other dogs aswell as (or even more than) people, and it is responsible dog owners that would benefit most.