[Closed] 6 year old attacked by dog.(pitbull)

There seems to have been an exponential increase in bull terrier type dogs where I live. I crap myself when they are off the lead in the park and I am there with our twins (3). Would be happy for them all to be destroyed.

Much as I would happily have a world where dogs don't exist; kids have been mauled by dogs of many breeds and it's not just pitbull's that have bad owners, so no. Plus there may be some practical issues to arranging such a cull.

iirc when the dangerous dogs act was introduced, figures from the RSPCA indicated that the most common breed in attacks was the labrador, and that when figures were equalised for numbers owned, collies was the breed deemed most likely to attack.

It's the owners, not the dogs, that are responsible.

That's probably true MSP. The thing that scares me most is that a terriers jaws are almost impossible to prise apart.

True nikk, but the op has proposed shooting both the dog and the owner. If we just take out the owner we would be left with a lot of pitbull's, just think of the possible cost to public funds looking after them.

Theres a difference between frequency or liklyhood of being attacked and how dangerous the attack.

maybe a collie attack more frequently, but which dog would you want to face off to, pitbull or collie?

Evey one of these dangerous dogs need culled and if you are caught with one you should be given 10 year min.

Modern society should not have to put up with these dogs.

Where in the article did it say anything about a pit bull?

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pitbull was in the bbc news this morning.

Don't blame the dogs - it is invariably the owners fault and TBH I'd be quite happy for some of the owners to be shot. The emphasis is on [b]some[/b], as most of these dogs I come into contact with are very friendly.

So OP, presuming your are seeking to make a serious point, how would you reduce tho risk of dog attacks?

Shooting an entire breed and all owners is of course ludicrous.

Just wondered if you actually had something constructive to say, rather than moan.

From BBC "The dog is thought to be a black and white bull terrier."

So not confirmed what kind of dog. If the attack wasn't sad enough the owner leaving the scene is disgraceful

The dog is thought to be a black and white bull terrier.

Were you starting a letter the the Daily Mail? Owner problem, not dog problem. Reactionary public problem as well.

culling an entire breed would be pointless as these irrisponcible owners will just latch on to another type of dog to train up.

i do beleive that dog licences should be brought back with mandatory chipping.

Isnt it time all dogs like this were shot along with their owners.

Were you starting a letter the the Daily Mail?

Owner problem, not dog problem.

What we need to consider is that when i were a lad it was rotties that were the problem now its bull breeds (which are less aggressive towards people than gsd dobberman etc) which to me shows its the bloody owners that need shooting first. Round our way its american bulldogs and crosses between them and staffies that al the ****wits own.
Tragic for the kid and must be horrific for the parents, hope the owner is caught and put to sleep.

If we just take out the owner we would be left with a lot of pitbull's, just think of the possible cost to public funds looking after them.

I don't think we're looking at all the angles here.. large marauding packs of feral pitbulls would have a very welcome effect on the drunk kids hanging out on street corners in the evenings..

I would vote for a law to be introduced to provide a 1 year amnesty for owners of any designated breed of dangerous dog to be put down (the dog not the owner)

After that if you are seen on the street/public place with a dog the police should arrest you resulting in an automatic 5 year mandatory prison sentence with no chance parole.

Yunki maybe i'm feeling a bit tired this am but that seems in very poor taste given what the threads about.

Who needs a pitbull?
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poor taste

I like kids but I couldn't eat a whole one..

Get rid of them, sooner the better.

Seeing as dogs have the potential to be a dangerous weapon maybe it's time for proper licensing, too expensive to implement I suppose but dogs are expensive things to own so probably OK to put this cost on the owner. Could have a scheme were it's a lot cheaper to have, say, a labrador than a pitbull.

Could have a scheme were it's a lot cheaper to have, say, a labrador than a pitbull.

not a good idea

Dog and owner left the scene!!
Surely thats got to be viewed legally like a hit and run or even worse.
Its amazing the scum that exists in this world.

Surely only the responsible owners would have their dog licensed and chipped. In any case how does licensing dogs prevent or minimise attacks? If an owner is irresponsible And the dog is capable of this then the dog being licensed will be of little consolation to the child.

just think, next time it could be a child's face!

I love dogs. However, I don't believe that any breed has an inherent right to exist. After all, all dogs are the same species - we don't need to protect genetic diversity unless the breed is truely wild. Pit bulls are essentially poodles with powerful jaws and necks which have been optimised by man for fighting. Why retain these traits if they are no longer needed? It is possible to breed a dog that logs like a pit bull but with the docile personality of a Labrador. Bad dog owners undoubtedly contribute to the aggressive nature of any dog of any breed through neglect. In Germany dog owners need to do a practical test and get a licence to own dogs. I don't want this to be imposed in the UK because of a small minority of people with a fetish for niche breed.

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a dogs personality is a "reflection" of the owners.

In my experience of these dogs, my partner's chavvy brother and various inbred types near where we live all seem to love staffies, they're usually great with people but an absolute nightmare around other dogs to the point where its impossible to walk them off the lead if theres another dog within half a mile.

I now carry a 5 cell maglite when I take my dog out after being attacked by one a few months back. Luckily the owner grabbed it before it got hold but its not a nice experience.

Personally cant see the point in a keeping a dog like this, seems like a lot of hassle and potential trouble just to look like a hard man. Then again I'm not a chav so have no desire for a status symbol dog.

Surely only the responsible owners would have their dog licensed and chipped

You attach draconian penalties to unlicensed/unchipped dogs/owners. Random stop checks and some high profile cases to make examples of people.

Only licensed people can walk dogs. All dogs must be chipped with a corresponding DNA record. All costs covered by the dog licensing tariff. Transfers of ownership to be formalised like it is with cars.

Dogs on leads mandatory in public places where children are likely to be. All dogs liable to bite must be muzzled when in public or around children.

Owner is ultimately responsible for their dogs actions, whether they are present or not. This would mean of a dog rips a childs face off, they are tried as if they had personally done it.

6 month amnesty to become compliant.

Sorry if this offends, but recent personal experiences have left me feeling that something significant needs to be done. I know it punishes responsible folk, but so does the insurance industry and many other things we put up with.

Edit: I should add that I would hope the high penalties and initial costs would put off the numpties and that the eventual costs would be within a reasonable bracket.

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Owner is ultimately responsible for their dogs actions, whether they are present or not. This would mean of a dog rips a childs face off, they are tried as if they had personally done it.

this sounds like a good idea.. I'd vote for that

the concept of people using dogs as weapons in abhorrent.

society could aspire to a more dignified level of humanity if people were just tooled up with baseball bats instead.

Don't blame the dogs - it is invariably the owners fault

Some doga are dangerous and some owners are dangerous

I assume we would like dog attacks to never happen but I see no easy solution to this problem

We has a boxer /american pit bull cross outside our ofice doors and no one would leave so i went out [ no one else would] and it went mental as soon as I appeared...wagging its tail and whimpering for attention it fair licked me to death when I went over to it....evil evil dog and its owner was unemployed and in a shell suit...go figure eh....should i wrtie to the Daily mail with my real life horror story ?

There's more jerking knees here than at the knee jerking convention at knee jerk city, in knee jerk county USA...
Put em all down..yeah right 🙄 more are killed by bikes, crush em all?
We don't need new rules or laws, enforcing the ones we have would do...

i have nothing constructive to say

Even for STW, this is about as daily mail as it can get.

I'm not jerking any knees. The sentiment has been building for years.

I imagine the problem is much worse in some areas than others, and I guess the cultural shift that's needed is that dog ownership shouldn't be entered in to lightly.

I'm not jerking any knees.

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I think threads like this should be banned and the owner of the keyboard that started should have some kind of training and undergo some form of psychological testing as these threads serve no useful purpose except in the form of trolling and allowing others people with extremist views to pollute the interweb with their intolerance and ignorance. If all keyboard users had some form of licence I feel the forum could be free of these intellectually challenged knee jerkers.
Saludos.

What on earth gives you that idea to make such an idiotic statement? I was quoting the BBC as that is the only evidence that the make of dog is not known

It wasn't your thread title but the sentence in your post:

Isnt it time all dogs like this were shot along with their owners.

which clearly stands out as a potential 'letter-to-Daily-Mail'-esque idiotic statement.

Practically every time someone is attacked by a dog and its in the news they say its a Pitbull. There have been times they have said that and it wasn't even a terrier, let alone a Pitbull.