What's consensus on this when you want to go straight across (30 cars waiting) the roundabout and the turn right lane is empty, thus saving time? Indicate right and keep on indicating right until you reach your desired exit (the 6th out of 4 540º and not 180º, for example).
Nobbish and completely against everything good about this country.
I would also do this, intelligent driving innit 🙂
So there we have it folks.
You can close the thread now mods. 😛
It's selfish.
I do it, but I have a white van.
I'd probably do this, but I'd be pretending to myself, for the benefit of those psychicly reading me from the left hand lane queue, that I didn't really know which way I was going until it was too late, and by then, I just had to go with it.
And as this is definitely going to get argumentative, I'm going to wade in now and say it's no different to changing lanes in slow moving motorway traffic.
I do it all the time, not nobbish at all. I view it the same as driving past all those queuing at a petrol station to get a pump the same side as their filler cap
My mad Aunt does this, though not for reasons of queue jumping, she does it just for fun.
It also helps with her poor sense of direction: a few laps to recce the situation gives her time to make sure she's got the right exit.
So if you see a Barbie-pink Citroen 2CV with leopard-print upholstery emitting a dense fug of Benson & Hedges smoke doing several laps of a roundabout, give her a wave.
Reminds me of the where the M67 ends at the roundabout, everyone waiting to go straight on towards Mottram, some people turn right and then come right round the roundabout, pretending they've just driven up from Stockport etc...
Assuming you're in the UK, we're generally a nation of polite non-queuejumpers. Except some people in cars. Which winds up other people in their cars and is bad for everybody on the road. So don't.
two lane entry, one lane exit - forget the extra 360 deg & barge your way in like every other dick
I used to do 450 at the top of a slip road (a3 Burpham if anyone cares) as I wanted to turn left and 99% of the queuing traffic was going straight on. But I don't do the 540 on my current commute (Yateley roundabout on the A30) as the queue is never that long, so saved time vs nobbishness doesn't pay off. Plenty just ignore the right turn only arrows and go straight on, but I give them a righteous tutting. That'll learn em.
roundabouts are weird, twin roundabouts on A413 near great missenden, going south all straight ahead traffic queues in the right lane but going north all straight ahead traffic queues in the left lane, seems to be nothing more than tradition so I just pick the route with the shortest queue 🙂
Agreed its pretty nobbish, but have been known to indulge in the odd 630° when i really need to get somewhere in a hurry.
Folks doing it on a regular basis probably need castrating before they pass said behaviour onto any offspring.
Agreed its pretty nobbish, but have been known to indulge in the odd 630° when i really need to get somewhere in a hurry.
When i'm really in a hurry I do a full 7,735,383,990°
I do it all the time, not nobbish at all. I view it the same as driving past all those queuing at a petrol station to get a pump the same side as their filler cap
No, quite different. That's making using of unused capacity. If everyone did it, the queues would be shorter.
Doing a circuit of the roundabout is just queue jumping. As you complete your 360, you prevent someone who was in front of you from entering the roundabout, and you've also used up more of the junction's capacity by being on it for longer. If everyone did it, queues on all approaches would be longer.
I like to just drive round & round so fast that no ****er can get on at all 8)
I've always been pretty shit at maths and the whole circle degrees thing so I just sit in the queue so as not to get confused and turn too early or too late.
's probably an education thing...
If it's a spiral roundabout you end up getting fired into orbit
If everyone did it, queues on all approaches would be longer.
Let's think about that one for a while...
It's fine, it's the sensible thing to do
Ps I drive a BMW,but I do indicate correctly all the way round
Right lane and filter in. My car isn't very smart looking.
Back home, double roundabout at top of a hill, everyone queues up at the right roundabout to go right. Left roundabout 270 to butt in on the right due to the way traffic flows. Steep hill to queue on in a fully loaded van. Left roundabout method was quite an accomplishment if towing the 18'trailer too.
I wonder what the percentage of people who think this is ok are also tories.
Reminds me of the end of the M67 as well discjockey. We just don't travel that way when it's going to be bad nowadays.
Diskjocky ..M67
The ammount of times i could murder people on Mottram moor is untrue , im looking at around 1000 life sentences atm.
I love the ones who try it right at the lights normally resulting in my seatbelt being removed and a 20 foot walk !
What about turning right in the left hand lane at a roundabout to beat the queue? 😡
I did that once when I was younger, became confused and took the wrong exit onto a dual carriageway. Miles until next roundabout. Haven't tried it since!
Common sense I would say, not much of that about these days though.
I think about doing it occasionally then I can't be bothered, I'm never in that much of a hurry to get anywhere
It may be better than the Kier roundabout in Dunblane, where again tonight, locals were doing a 320* turn (exit 4 of 5 roads in) from the shorter queue in left hand lane....
It may be better than the Kier roundabout in Dunblane, where again tonight, locals were doing a 320* turn (exit 4 of 5 roads in) from the shorter queue in left hand lane....
Yes, I've seen that one. I was in a large van going straight through onto the A9 when a car in the inside lane went across my nose doing a right turn from the LH lane. Sooner or later that maneuver isn't going to end well.
At the roundabout leaving Dumbarton on the A82 bypass road I've stopped using lane 2 (of 3) for going straight on as twice I've had to brake when drivers thought using the LH of 3 lanes to go right was a good idea.
Maximises traffic flow. Thumbs up
Why would you do 1.5 laps? I don't get it.
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If everyone did it, queues on all approaches would be longer.
Let's think about that one for a while...
I've thought about it and can't decide if you're being picky or simply don't understand how junction capacity works.
It's the only way of getting out of Barnstaple.
It's a duck move because of how it affects all the other roundabout entrants.
I've thought about it and can't decide if you're being picky or simply don't understand how junction capacity works.
This may be my misunderstanding and I'm prepared to be corrected but if there is: -
1). A fixed volume of vehicles entering a junction
2). A fixed capacity of vehicles able to leave the junction via a selected exit
3). A fixed capacity of the junction for vehicles within it
How can it be a negative impact if some vehicles enter that junction via a left lane or a right lane? Surely if a vehicle travels down an empty right lane then waits in the right lane before entering the junction and travels 540 degrees before exiting - all it does is shorten the queue in the left hand lane for moment....? It doesn't reduce the capacity of the junction, or the exit?
It removes a turn for the people using the roundabout correctly - so slows them slightly ie its a queue jump as folk that were infront would now be behind.
Failed my first test for not going around again so I'm conditioned to do it. Saves time too!
Traffic going round the roundabout has priority over traffic joining it. A car going 540º instead of 180º is spending 3 times as long blocking other cars from getting onto the roundabout.How can it be a negative impact if some vehicles enter that junction via a left lane or a right lane? Surely if a vehicle travels down an empty right lane then waits in the right lane before entering the junction and travels 540 degrees before exiting - all it does is shorten the queue in the left hand lane for moment....? It doesn't reduce the capacity of the junction, or the exit?
Nothing wrong with it at all, compared to texting, using a laptop, reading and all the other dim witted actions I see on the road every day in the 40 k miles I do a year I've Been known to do it if I can be arsed. I'm pretty sure the majority of commuters won't even notice it's happened.
I would do it.
HTH.
[quote=jamj1974 ]It doesn't reduce the capacity of the junction, or the exit?
Well the nobber's car spends approximately 3 times as long in the junction and crosses at least two entrances which traffic heading in the direction the nobber is going otherwise wouldn't cross, so directly holding up vehicles trying to use the junction from those entrances. It's hard to see how it doesn't affect the capacity of the junction for traffic entering from those roads.
