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all that said about Labour hoovering up the youth vote.....
the Tories have stepped up
…and won’t they be pissed off if we leave and it doesn’t solve all their problems?
Yes... with Europe, or with remoaners, or anyone but themselves. 🙄
all that said about Labour hoovering up the youth vote…..
the Tories have stepped up
What the actual **** did I just read?
That Michael Gove tweet can't be real...?
was reading somewhere that polling organisations are usually skewed to the right tho as older people simply more politically engaged
More likely to answer the phone...
What sort of messed up childhood have they had to be so uncaring at that age.
It takes a while to come out from the shadow of your parents sometimes.
I gather Saint Jeremy smashed it out of the park with his interview with Andrew Neil earlier. A masterclass, by all accounts.
Anyone watch it?
The “Sturgeon wants to be deputy prime minister” line got used by Johnson today, so that’s phase 3 in the Tory campaign getting kicked off early (it’s also yet another lie).
Anyone watch it?
He got roasted. As did the other leaders in the other interviews. Neil won’t hold back with Johnson either.
Good job Boris is good under pressure...
I hope Johnson gets as much of a kicking, he's on shakier ground.
Neil has a strong right wing bias in his day to day political commentary, but when it comes to these set piece interviews he sets out to skewer all the leaders. The question is, even he succeeds with Johnson… will it make any difference?
I hope Johnson gets as much of a kicking, he’s on shakier ground.
Corbyn should of just played the ball as it was given to him. He surely knew that the questions were going to be brutal, so just accept the mistakes and don't try and weasel out.
Neil has been fantastic with everyone he's had on his Wednesday program. Really wish there were more people like him in journalism.
I see no reason why Johnson won't get taken to pieces in the most spectacular fashion.
So when do you think the msm and guardian will play the 'reds under the bed' about Labour card?
I suspect it will be a weekend Sunday papers lead and they only have two weekends to go.
They cant really go the whole secret Kremlin funded plot as Johnson has already bagged that so what do you think the attack line will be?
Neil won’t hold back with Johnson either.
Bollox. From previous he is much much softer on tories
The question is, even he succeeds with Johnson… will it make any difference?
Johnson could probably take a shit on the floor and walk out and people would still vote for him.
Bollox.
Dear oh dear. Past campaign period interviews suggest otherwise. Let’s watch Johnson’s, and see if he gets a soft ride.
Don’t know about ‘reds under the bed’ in the Sunday papers, but getting the whole ‘criticism of Israel and/or Zionism is anti Semitic’ trope out there a few months ago looks like a shrewd play. Almost as though they were desperate for Labour to have an ‘ism’ that could be trotted out to neutralise accusations of racism/xenophobia on the part of Brexiteers.
And yes, I do know that criticism of Israel and Zionism (the latter to a lesser extent) were defined as not being Anti-Semitism, but the notion got out there.
When people can barely be arsed to get past a three word slogan it plays to the narrative of ‘they are all as bad as each uvver, but Boris will deliver Brexit and take back sovrunty’.
Clever stuff.
The interviews do matter
Yougov have Don't Knows at 23% !
Both Cornyn & Johnson poll very badly on trust
They have to come across well
& For all his pro brexit/Tory bias on Twitter Neil does give Tory MPs a tough time, whether he will do the same to his old chum from the Spectator? I suppose we'll know soon.
A bad day for corbyn , will Labour keep squeezing Tories in the polls? If they are panic will be setting in at Tory HQ, May was polling better than Johnson is now (15 vs 12pt lead)
But unless Johnson is a disaster & has some major fk ups between now and 12th he'll get his majority.
It has to be said, Andrew Neil is an utter cretin though, fully expect the same obnoxious nonsense against swinson and johnson.
It has to be said, Andrew Neil is an utter cretin though, fully expect the same obnoxious nonsense against swinson and johnson.
I'd agree with that, he's a complete prick.
Why can't interviewers be more impartial?
Interviewing isn't rocket science, stay neutral and if the interviewee goes bonkers it's a plus.
Seo77 up there....
Andrew Neil is a cretin?
F me man, lay off the kool-aid.
He prepares thoroughly, is factually rigorous and pushes every interviewee/subject for honest answers.
What was obnoxious about his questioning of either Corbyn or Sturgeon? Was it only his questioning go Corbyn?
Give us some demonstrable, measurable facts to support your one line assertion.
Politicos have, for years, used bluster and blather in an attempt to defuse hostile questioning; Neil does not put up with that bollocks.
Party leaders know that when they sign up to agreeing to engage with Neil.
How would you prefer him to interview/interrogate?
Short interview. Ask the difficult questions. Don’t buy the bullshit obfuscation techniques they’ve been drilled in by their controllers. Push hard. Exactly what is needed.
Yes, Neil is right wing, and his day to day commentary is terribly biased, but he handles these kind of interviews well.
And ‘stay neutral’ is exactly why the BBC is under heavy criticism elsewhere… don’t just sit back and let politicians lie and deliver their rehearsed lines… push them to answer the questions they don’t want to answer.
Looking like Johnson might not even show up for a Neil interview. Probably worried he’ll give him too much of a soft ride… [or not]
The tories posted a fake news paper through my door today.
Craig whittaker is a weapons grade shit bag...
What you can't see in the pic is the small print which took me a while to read as it's so blurry...
Promoted by alton mabutt on behalf of the Conservative and unionist party. SW1, London.
FFS how naive is JC and his advisers? He must have known in advance he'd get some questions around anti-semitism and the best he can do is just try the usual denunciation that even a complete moron can see isn't working.
Sure people that bother to look beyond the newspaper headlines will realise it's a non story and apologising on behalf of some idiots in his party shouldn't have much value but in the times we live he should have known that by just repeating the denunciation of antisemitism but not offering up any form of apology would be the only thing the media picked up on.
I bet Cummings and Johnson were in stitches watching that shit show play out
It has to be said, Andrew Neil is an utter cretin though
Can't disagree more. I think we need journalists like him.
If others had given politicians as thorough questioning as him the country would be in a much better place.
He must have known in advance he’d get some questions around anti-semitism and the best he can do is just try the usual denunciation that even a complete moron can see isn’t working.
At least he didn't do the waffle about "bad people on all sides" (sound familiar?) Before going to "I think we'll have to do this another time" and then hanging up routine like he did when he refused to condemn the actions of the IRA.
A complete canard CFH as you should know - he did condemn the IRA. As he condemned the paramilitaries on all sides.
Bad people on all sides? Very Trumpian...
Hanging up to avoid answering a difficult, direct question? What a guy!
On the IRA - he gave a clear condemnation of all the men of violence. twisted by the tory press to be " refused to condemn the IRA"
I think it's fair to say that Labour (but mostly Corbyn) had a bad day yesterday, the Andrew Neil interview was just the end of it.
It’s an odd world when Corbyn not Johnson is getting called Trumpian.
It’s an odd world when Corbyn not Johnson is getting called Trumpian.
Not really the parallels between Trump and Corbyn are massive:
Keynesian stimulus at the wrong point in the cycle: Tick.
Presenting as the establishment outsider: Tick.
Populist looking to make radical changes: Tick.
Instinctively hostile to the UK's allies: Tick.
Brexiteers: Tick.
Hostility to NATO: Tick.
THEATLANTIC.COM Andrew Neil's a great interviewer IMHO facts always at his fingertips. I think the request for an anti-semitism apology question was unfair (how can you apologise for something without accepting the premise!) but apart from that spot on. He doesn't ask any more unfair questions that other interviewers IMHO. It's clear the other candidates are running scared of him which suggests that they don't think he's biased, and nor do I.
Very obliging of Jezza to take the heat off Prince Andrew for supplying the biggest car crash interview of the last few weeks.
As on so many occasions over the last 4 years you can’t help but wonder how it would have panned our with someone even vaguely competent, as opposed to some dithering eternal sixth former carrying more baggage than the hold of a 747
I'm really liking the Lib dems this time: Revoke. 1p tax rise on all of us, not just people who can easily avoid it. Review of IR35. End of the Loan Charge.
1p tax rise on all of us, not just people who can easily avoid it. Review of IR35. End of the Loan Charge.
Wouldn't a fairer policy be for the better paid to pay proportionately more income tax and the lower paid proportionally less?
I'm a Corbyn supporter, and I don't like Andrew Neil, but I have to admit that Corbyn did badly and Neil didn't do anything out of order. If a proposal isn't costed, that needs to be called out. The test of Neil will be if he does the same or worse to Johnson, as I don't think their proposals are any better and I suspect worse.
Not really the parallels between Trump and Corbyn are massive:
Keynesian stimulus at the wrong point in the cycle: Tick.
Presenting as the establishment outsider: Tick.
Populist looking to make radical changes: Tick.
Instinctively hostile to the UK’s allies: Tick.
Brexiteers: Tick.
Hostility to NATO: Tick.
Do me a favour. You've cherry picked concepts to fit your argument. Trump is nothing like Corbyn, not in the slightest, and you know this because it's staring you in the face.
It's indicative of the establishment that Andrew Neil is more interested in the past activity of some Labour members being more important than the crisis of living standards, treatment of the poor and the standard of our NHS today.
It's also laughable that Neil used the £250 for marriage tax allowance as attack on tax and income.
The benefit of improved NHS, free broadband, cheaper water rates and other utilities will wipe that out and more.
Also Neil doesn't understand how the countries' finances work. Government debt is not the same as household debt. He could just go and read the BoE's website?
Journalists just don't do nuance. You'd have to be an idiot to think Neil is anything more than a child wielding headlines about clumsily like some Paxman spin-off.
I thought this was a well researched car crash interview?
It was on of the most hamfisted interviews I've seen designed to extract 30 seconds of sound bites for the MSM and give James O'Brien a massive intellectual hard-on.
It’s indicative of the establishment that Andrew Neil is more interested in the past activity of some Labour members
The man wants to be PM. How he handles an issue such as this in a party he leads is pertinent to voters who need to trust him to handle issues once he is our PM.
It’s also laughable that Neil used the £250 for marriage tax allowance as attack on tax and income.
The benefit of improved NHS, free broadband, cheaper water rates and other utilities will wipe that out and more.
Completely agree that the increase in tax will be far outweighed by the benefits. But untruths and deceit in a campaign should still be pointed out… even if you agree with the policy base. Claiming that no one paid under £80K will pay more tax, when that is not true, should be challenged.
Oob that's a bit silly, unless you think Corbyn based his campaign on building a wall along the south coast, locking up Johnson, starting a trade war with China, tax cuts for the richest & shutting down the NHS ?
Johnson on the other hand....
The test of Neil will be if he does the same or worse to Johnson
Andrew Neil is a equal-opportunities rottweiler. I'm sure he's absolutely relishing tearing Boris Johnson a new one. The Tory's policies, such as they are, are as ripe to be torn to pieces as Labours
Both manifesto's are the work of fantasists that won't stand first contact with reality. Andrew Neil is intelligent enough to know this. And so is Boris Johnson
I doubt Johnson is relishing the prospect of the interview after watching that train wreck last night. Johnson's shtick does ok for him when he's allowed to bluff and bluster uninterrupted, but it collapses under scrutiny. Neil will make mincemeat of him too
I thought this was a well researched car crash interview?
And of course Andrew Neil is above the fray on racism and anti-semitism isn't he? It's not like he's the chairman of a magazine which publishes blatanly racist articles like the one mentioned below. What Corbyn should have done is call him out on his own racism, like Owen Jones did a while ago.
Neil will make mincemeat of him too
He won't. And it won't be because of Boris's amazing interview skills.
Andrew Neil in his day to day political commentary is very right wing… that doesn’t change the fact that he does these interviews well. If Corbyn had tried to change the interview into questioning Neil, he’d have looked as if he didn’t want to answer questions. Jones did a great job… I was cheering him… but that wasn’t in an election campaign leaders interview.
What Corbyn should have done is call him out on his own racism, like Owen Jones did a while ago.
And anyone in possession of even the the tiniest shred of political nouse would have done exactly that. But its Jeremy Corbyn we're talking about here, isn't it...
He doesn't exactly need Andrew Neil to outsmart him, does he? Petty much anyone could manage it. The fact is that he's totally incapable of thinking on his feet and is basically absolutely hopeless at this politics lark.
Which is exactly why he should never have got anywhere near the leadership and why labour are flailing so impotently in the polls. Even more so after Grandads latest disaster. He;'s an open goal for Andrew Neil, the Tory party, the right wing press and pretty much anyone else who fancies having a pop
*sigh*