New Look Ibis: Birds Are Real

Now mulling over prying the old head badge off the SL-R frame I have gathering dust to see how much I can get for it...

One of the nicer things about Ibis, was the head-badge.

Embracing the bird ?
First thing that came to my mind was this 🖕
I'm so childish.
Shame about the headbadge going the way of the dodo.

And now all I can think of is thi and apologies for the language...

I miss head badges. From my old Raleigh Boxer, Lizard and Marauder to my 2005 GT Moto and Orange Alpine 160. Hells, I think my old Universal MTB used to have an actual head badge.

Now it’s all just stickers and decals.

Time to find someone how does pretty custom head badges. Any suggestions?

Don’t Australian’s refer to Ibis as “Bin Chickens”?

That red Ibis looks _exactly_ like my old Santa Cruz 26er Superlight...

Having cracked two Ripmos under the downtube protector it's nice to see they realise there is an issue.

I am waiting to hear if they will warranty my 2nd cracked frame now.....

Time to find someone how does pretty custom head badges. Any suggestions?

Jen Green
https://www.headbadges.com/portfolio.html

Suspect some of the Custom headtube badge makers in the states will be adding an old school Ibis jobbie to thier ranges pretty sharpish, it was a lovely design.

EDIT: Beaten to it!

Oh dear, how cheap, no pun intended, does that transfer look, as an owner of the HD3 and HD4 part of the identity of an Ibis is the metallic gold headtube badge, it looks as bad as the Santa Cruz square headtube badge compared to the original which resembled someone riding a bike, it looks too corporate and lacks imagination, here's hoping Yeti don't follow suit and lose their fabulous metal headtube badge.

Marvellous stuff.

I particularLy like the description of the uppercase IBIS, followed by the use of Ibis in the text. There's nothing like brand integrity and this is nothing like ... oh, never mind!

Had this for an age. It's even cooler now.

Try again

What a load of complete shite...

I mean, really?

EVERY bike over £3,000 should have a proper head badge. End of.

The bird is the word?

I think Ibis should give you commission. I usually avoid marketing spiel, but I read that, purely because of your intro.

He liked that birds are light and can fly

Sounds like the kinda guy you want running a milion dollar business.

You got me.

Where do I sign?

I think the new logo would actually look quite good as a metal headbadge. I mean I hadn’t even realised the old one was actually a bird (insert face palm emoji!) I just thought it looked pretty.

Still don’t understand why all these companies with iconic logos always feel the need to rebrand.

And yes, I also think that all bikes over £2000 should still have real head badges

I was hoping for a bit more of a change in the new ripmo than a different, worse, badge

55mm chain line. does this mean they have adopted super boost? or does it mean that your chain has to bend more when you’re on the lower end of the cassette?

edit it may tell me in the article, but after the bullshit, 55 mil chainline broke me.

perhaps they should have rebranded to IBS rather than IBIS.

obviously, i’m sympathetic to IBS sufferers.

edit edit, are we sure that this isn’t a joke?

at least this has left me not wanting an IBIS anymore.

Bin Chicken would be a good name for their latest model

That marketing statement - W. T. F!

Whoever commissioned it needs fired. Whoever came up with it needs an education. As for whomever in "IBIS" approved it, goodness they need therapy.

Sometimes this mag / website is pure gold.

That must be a piss take.

Old frames made of Moron ?

If it isn't, and instead is some marketing spiel designed in such a way, the people responsible need to get out more and stop socially not interacting on their devices.

I love my mk1 Ripmo and liked what Ibis do as a brand, however this is just a bit silly.

Do agree, the frame shadow looks like a 2007-2013 (ish) SC Superlight. Only the shadow though, as clearly the linkages are totally different.

EVERY bike over £3,000 should have a proper head badge. End of.

I cannot think of anything less important.

Unfortunately, they've missed the major bit and it's still minging. Great bikes though!

I love a good headbadge, but I doubt a proper headbadge would sway any decision on an Ibis for me - not a fan of the looks.

Working in branding and marketing for well known consumer brands (not flexing, but flexing) - That statement is for your internal stakeholders and for investors. There should have been a customer-facing statement that was less full of purpose-driven language that people who ride bikes don't give two hoots about, and one that was about what the brand is going to be in the next 5 - 10 years.

You know, we're going to fully embrace the 39" wheel, and hamster power.

I used to love the look of the Mojo's, those bikes up there are just Duuuuul!

The Headtube badge also used to be nice, it's the finishing touches that make you feel good about expensive bikes, little embosed bits or cut outs on the chainstays or seat stay brace. That new headtube badge is just shite.

Your header is indeed a cacophony of flowery copywriting ****age of the highest quality. Much mirth and merryment was had.
Bravo Han Han, peel yourself another "Shat through the arse of a goat" craft freeze dried rare earth hand picked aubergene, dahling.

And that Ibis / IBIS sticker looks like it belongs on a Scandinavian ferry or to budget airline. I say that as an IBIS metal headbadge owner....

Just watched that you tube video posted up there^^ 🤣🤣🤣

Moral of the story before you create a brand find out the 'cultural associations' in your target market. Seems Australian liking for anything ibis may be a bit lacking.

Where the old head badge illustrated synergy with the steel frames and craftsmanship whilst curtseying to heritage, the fresh and exciting contemporary logo encapsulates the core conceptual values of a modern carbon bike. Mass-produced, some variation of plastic, pooped out of a machine, a bold logo that is in one colour so the decals are cheaper to print. “That will do… but can I have 400 words justifying it so it looks like we know what we are doing”.

@stwhannah - not sure who came up with the logo change at Ibis, not sold on it, but as a thought- Roxy Lo is the bike designer there- only woman I'm aware of that has that position in the industry, and she certainly changed a lot of things with the Mojo design- might be a great candidate for an interview/article.

@twonks - nope, Moron ('more on' the ends, geddit) was Ibis' 1990s response to Ritchey Logic and (particularly) Columbus Genius steel tubing. This was, don't forget, the same company that gave the world the 'hand job' brake cable holder.

Regarding the actual story up, it seems to me that someone has been outsourcing to a non-specialised marketing company, and has been releasing internal comms as a press release...

bit remiss of you not to post a picture of a handjob, Barney

How to take an expensive bike and make it look like you got it from Aldi

That's no way to attract the IT crowd away from Santa Cruz or Yeti

Vinny, I knew someone would be along to do it for me 🙂

Just been notified that Ibis will not warranty my second frame that has cracked under the downtube guard. 43 months, over £4K spent on the two frames.
I know some others have had their frames crack in the same place. The press release yesterday mentions increased protection in this area.

"We’re also replacing our bolt on polycarbonate downtube protector with a new thick rubber guard. It covers a larger area and the increased thickness and softer material better absorbs impacts"

It's crap to find out the day after they announce increased protection they are washing their hands of mine.

EVERY bike over £3,000 should have a proper head badge. End of.

I cannot think of anything less important.

+1

I've never heard anyone on the trails say 'nice bike, but where's the head badge?' I thought it was just something for bike journos to talk about to fill up space. 😀

Geoff Moorhouse is the man for head tube badges
https://www.instagram.com/headbadge/?hl=en

Made me a beautiful Cotic one out of pewter for my old Soul - it's a work of art.

*EDIT - looks like he's winding things down due to health reasons, bugger.

The 55mm chainline, which is 3mm wider than the previous standard, allows for a wider and stiffer chainstay.

But. Does it really? REALLY? Will anyone notice the extra width and stiffness offered by 3mm.

3mm.

If a reviewer can genuinely feel the difference, I'll eat one of my (cycling) helmets.

Rebranding is the hallmark of someone who has run out f ideas.

Name a bike brand who have rebranded & then not lost status in the market.

Nice one @rocketdog
Some of those badges are awesome even at $100, nice way to customise the bike, particularly like the sheep and Death Star one

https://www.headbadges.com/portfolio.html/blockquote >

 

I had to google what a "word mark" was. It's pretty poor showing off your new (much worse) headtube badge underneath bars using your previous "word mark".

Just trying to remember if the expensive bike I've had for last 4 years has a head badge or not...no, I have no idea, will have to have a look next time

What utter bollyx - no wonder they are so over-priced when they piish away time and money to come up with this gash.
It looks shiiite too - something more suited to a catalogue bike costing £149 inc. Pedals and reflectors.

My Shand has a proper nice metal head tube badge. 😎

Sorry to hear folks have got broken Ibis. But somehow I never get surprised by that fact.

I love the reactions to re-brands. I've worked on them with agencies and in-house teams and the first reaction I have is usually kept to myself as it's often wrong or too personal and later I see it differently. So much depends on who the brand is targeting and it can be hard to detach and see it from a different pov.

There's a general homogenisation of logos, car design, bikes, everything. We buy products because of what others think, to a greater extent than most of us realise or would admit to. So the greater the market size a brand aims at, over time and greater exposure the more same-y most logos or designs become. Ibis are doing what so many brands have done already.

There's also some first-class waffle in that press release.

Blanding

But. Does it really? REALLY? Will anyone notice the extra width and stiffness offered by 3mm.

3mm.

If a reviewer can genuinely feel the difference, I’ll eat one of my (cycling) helmets.

can be interpreted in different ways. if they mean specifically the chainstay, then increasing the available space (with suitable clearances) between tyre and chainring could be significant, say from 10mm to 13mm.

As the stiffness of a thin walled tube is proportional to the cube of its diameter, going from 10 to 13mm, all else being equal, has mre than doubled its stiffness.

But what this does to the overall rear end stiffness, ie what a rider can feel, is anyones guess and determined by the entire system, not just a stiffer chainstay.

Ibis was once one of the only irreverent and genuinely humorous brands in this sport, which really is like golf at this point. Look up their infamous Xmas cards in the 90s if you’ve never seen. Maybe the immense success of the AF bikes has made the marketing staff very powerful. What a complete load of shxte that press release is, and the new graphics, ugh.

From the folk that brought us moron tubing and the famous hand job, we now like to pressent you bored and blant, what next beige bikes ?