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Zwift Team Time Trial, Thursday

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OK, let's go with:

Team STW, start delay 2.5 minutes (so off at 19:42:30, tag STW, use TTT STW voice channel)
@paino
@dangeourbrain
@phil56
@scaredypants
@yanboss
@zilog6128
@robbo1234biking

Team MoreSTW, start delay 5.5 minutes (so off at 19:45:30, tag MoreSTW, use TTT MoreSTW voice channel)
@w00dster (change your tag!)
@giggsmaster
martin
@haloric
@retrorick
@ivandobski


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 3:26 pm
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Cheers Savoyad. Not riding tonight then? Haven’t we got 4 Bs in STW - I thought ya boss had gone up to B now? Or am I confused.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 4:25 pm
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I signed up, but it turns out the first Thursday in November doesn't mean what I thought it would! I'll ride next week though.

There are actually not 4 but 5 Bs for you and zilog to chase in STW this week. It'll put you in frappe but one team had to move up and it doesn't really matter (certainly when it isn't the world championships...). And the power gradient is pretty good -it might be easier with @scaredypants and @yanboss buffering the gap to the superfast trio.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 5:01 pm
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^^^think I might be bringing up the rear this evening. With luck the pedal home will perk me up a bit but if I'm not in the pen assume I fell asleep and toppled into a ditch on the commute!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 5:07 pm
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Is it bumblebee top again?


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 7:33 pm
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Well I managed to avoid all the ditches on the way home,this bodes well*

*or at least not as badly as I feared


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 7:49 pm
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@giggsmaster yes to bumblebee


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 8:07 pm
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Good luck gents. Enjoy


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 8:12 pm
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Remember to stop pedaling at 19:40


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 8:36 pm
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Despite losing discord just before the start & having to ruin myself for the first minute to get back on 😂 that is one of my favourite TTT courses I think! The fact it ends on a hill means Phil can’t crack the whip any more as I’m already giving it 110% at that point 😀 Good workout, great teamwork... very few gaps, even on the hills 👍


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 9:48 pm
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Yeh great ride tonight - really enjoyed that.

Apologies for going for the breakaway on the second to last climb. I was channeling my inner-Sagan!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 9:57 pm
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I hate that course as I’m not a climber although have spent this yeah improving my climbing.  I deputised into our Clubs A team tonight which meant 5wkg turns and 8wkg up the climbs.

im pooped and have shakey legs 😀


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 9:58 pm
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We were really untidy on the climbs, big splits and ultimately it cost us quite a bit of time because 4th place was gapped by a fair distance on the final drag.

I was struggling for 4th's wheel but dropped it when it was obvious it was basically a drag race to the line for the final timed slot that I wasn't going to win.

I think that other team blew their legs off trying to catch us so early then struggled the rest of the way round which was awkward.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 9:59 pm
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Thanks team MoreSTW for towing me around and dragging me up the hills. I was at my limit. I had a stitch at the end of the first lap and was humbled to be helped back into the group when I was faltering. My heart rate was in the high 170s then my HRM gave up when I got out of the saddle on the last few hills. Thanks again. 👍👍


 
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Despite losing discord just before the start & having to ruin myself for the first minute to get back on 😂

Great effort zilog, I honestly expected you to fall over about mid way through after that start.

Good ride out tonight folks, I needed that more than I enjoyed it but it was a nice tight bunch and a good pace. Well done all.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:24 pm
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Blimey !
Just had a look at ZPower - I'm the lightest on our team. Never seen that before. Some of you boys are UNITS, with the output to match. How come I was crying up all the hills ?


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:26 pm
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We were good on the flats, but all over the place on a couple of climbs, especially the one that had a team passing as we caught stragglers.

Mostly I think we fail to group up just before the crest of the hill, meaning we don't go over the crest and down the otherside as a unit. Going downhill as a unit is free speed.

Anyway, I enjoyed it, we lost Martin to another team for quite a while, and we were cruising on the flats pretty quick, didn't have much left to give on the final climb.

Apologies if I'm chipping in too much, get carried away !.

Looks like 59:56 for 4th wheel versus 54:04 for the A's who look they crossed the line 7 abreast ?


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:27 pm
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I'm conscious I bang on about not attacking the climbs/the catch and regrouping from the front a fair bit so you're not alone!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:32 pm
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Zilog, that was funny to watch at the start. We were doing well under 200w and you weren't gaining at all. Draft is a big ol' thing

What's bloody weird is just how hard it is to rejoin a group if you're ahead slightly, back off and then they come by. Seems that any other random rider catches a massive draft but when it happened to me I was battering myself to get back on (then shot past and did the whole thing over again !)


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:34 pm
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Good race, somehow felt easier than the last few. Working internet definitely helps! Even managed a couple of turns on the front.

@scaredypants I was mostly tucked in at 250 W on the flat and then it was interval training up the hills at 320-350

Anyone know how to improve your cornering on Zwift? Every corner I would drop to a couple of meters off the back. Not sure if I subconsciously ease of as the corner approaches or I just need to level up my skill tree...


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:35 pm
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@scaredypants I was a much bigger unit about this time last year! I’m still short though so still got a way to go. Massively stalled this year but haven’t put weight on and grown my power so it’s not been too bad all things withstanding.

Was happy with the hills - the 2 runs up Libby hill were within a second of each other so nice and consistent. Averaged at least 310w on each climb as well so that was pretty good - tough but good! 2 min v02 max efforts on that 3 hill section.

We did cross the line as a good group tonight. First and last time I will get a bollocking for being to fast up a hill. 🤣


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:36 pm
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@yanboss spike your power into the corner.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:41 pm
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Yeah MoreSTW as a group we were all over the place on the last climb and towards the finish. Shame, as we did a good job to hold it together on the flats and the 1st time round.

I know I got a little carried away in the last KM, then not realising how far back the forth guy was until it was too late.


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 10:53 pm
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Anyone know how to improve your cornering on Zwift? Every corner I would drop to a couple of meters off the back

Now I accept this may not just be me but, Christ, my avatar is thick as pigshit - often riding a couple of metres to the outside of the bunch. Even up a straight road but especially round corners. My neighbour once asked me who I was shouting at in the garage, by which I assume he meant "can you perhaps stop being such a foulmouthed git?"

Maybe I should leave my mic open on discord one week: Tuck in, you **** !


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:08 pm
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I believe everyone sees themselves run wide on the corners?


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:11 pm
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I was a much bigger unit about this time last year! .... Massively stalled this year

When I (eventually) had a middle-aged health check blood test and they told me I was diabetic, I cut out eating sweets/junk at work. Just that. Apparently I ate a lot of it because I lost 8 kilos over a summer. None of my colleagues could look me in the eye, as they all thought I was horribly ill.

So, anyway. Do that !


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:14 pm
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Is that right Ivan, just a glitch in the graphics or something ?
(he definitely seesm to lose the draft sometimes)


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:15 pm
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Was wondering about the cornering too. I don’t ease off yet find myself going so wide I’ve then got to power back on. I’ll try and do as Nixie suggests.
All in a good team performance, only a minor ticking off from Phil this week!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:15 pm
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I've definitely heard from somewhere semi-official but can't remember where, basically it's just a sort of glitch.

It would make sense actually, everyone thinks they're running wide so put out more power so everyone else needs more power and they think it's because they've run wide and so it goes on!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:20 pm
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basically it’s just a sort of glitch

In zwift? Not a chance!


 
Posted : 05/11/2020 11:53 pm
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There has been lots of discussion about losing time on corners, seems to happen to a lot of riders.

I've yet to find a definitive zwift developer answer, this is probably the closest I've seen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zwift/comments/gqe4ci/avatar_taking_longer_racing_line/


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 12:07 am
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I know, I couldn't believe it either!


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 12:07 am
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Edit - same link as haloric

All sounds pretty plausible. Going to have to watch to see if he stays "sat up" in the draft or not (in the image on that thread, rider does seem to have kept the draft)


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 12:16 am
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Looking at the results again this morning, MoreSTW did better than I thought, 54:26

3mins down on STW (51:34) ! (unless I'm reading it wrong) and 109th out of 200 in class - middle of the road boys!. Somehow we managed to lose 45 secs on the last lap to the team that finished ahead of us - but hey.


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 9:40 am
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Yeh that looks right Haloric.

Thanks for organising @savoyad hopefully you can ride next week.

When I saw the team last night I had a sense trepidation about the speed and if I could keep up but it worked really well. I wasn't hanging of the back too much and was able to do some (very short) spells on the front.


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 11:34 am
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My legs are markedly shot this morning. Had a gloopy cold and been oddly tired for a week or so but largely put it down to lack of exercise. There were a few hard pulls for one reason or another last night and a lot of upy downy efforts which are always hard work but overall that should have been an comfy pace for me. This does not bode well for tomorrow.


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 11:43 am
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My legs are markedly shot this morning. Had a gloopy cold and been oddly tired for a week or so but largely put it down to lack of exercise. There were a few hard pulls for one reason or another last night and a lot of upy downy efforts which are always hard work but overall that should have been an comfy pace for me. This does not bode well for tomorrow.

I noticed your average was only 10w up on mine and on the last hill you seemed to be struggling which is unlike you. Rest up today!


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 11:50 am
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Brian, you just need to chill with us slower lads tomorrow, take it easy and we will all get round at our own pace. No need to smash it.


 
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and on the last hill you seemed to be struggling which is unlike you

Aye, I was shot by the drag to the line, thought I was going to be spat out to be honest..


 
Posted : 06/11/2020 12:28 pm
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2 laps of tempis digit this week. Doesn’t get flatter than that!


 
Posted : 07/11/2020 4:36 pm
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I've notice the cornering thing myself and suspect that the avatar is a bit of a glitch with your screen not necessarily reporting the game. Different people see different things at the same time - my wife and I can both believe we are on the RHS of the other when riding together. Which matters when we have steering switched on as you can't cut through someone.


 
Posted : 07/11/2020 4:57 pm
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not ridden tempis digit before, robbo - is it anything like turgid furby ?


 
Posted : 07/11/2020 5:12 pm
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I’m working nights on Thursday-need to be out of the door by 9pm. Not going to enter just yet-will see how awake I feel at 7!


 
Posted : 07/11/2020 6:23 pm
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Damn predictive text - tempis fugit!


 
Posted : 07/11/2020 8:28 pm
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Ok, two teams are entered for Thursday. Usual time, 7.40pm.

Riders, sign up to category A here: https://www.zwift.com/events/view/1204976

2x tempus fugit is flat flat flat.


 
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