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Anyone elses Zwift turned to crap after an update this morning?
Heard reports they had screwed it even more yesterday.
How so?
Typically mine seemed better yesterday than Thursday, which seemed to be worse than earlier in the week (could easily have been just me).
Would sound entirely plausible that they broke out for X people, in fixing that they broke it for Y instead.
Phew!!
Tough that
Here are some photos of my Zwift Fan..... None of that Generic Honeywell rubbish 😂
https://strava.app.link/2iut3fGQ95
ha... sweet like honeywell.....
again, top herding Steve.
though... please... SWARM...ffs... not group.. 😁
DrP
That was brutal but lots of fun. Nearly fell off my turbo in a heap at the end didn't quite have enough to stick with the front boys all the way to the end fell away with a minute or so left.
The tempo was brilliant until everyone bailed with 500m to the line. I was getting ready for battle, then everyone stopped on the hour!!! Wtf.
Tough but fine fun that
Enjoyed that, but I was broken after the last sprint, no way I could manage any tempo.
That, and I managed to lift the trainer up on the 3rd sprint, might need to find some ballast!
I took it easy on the final sprint with the last lap in mind but then missed the split for the tempo and didn't have the legs left to jump across.
I found my 2 best sprint results came when I didn't have power-ups to worry about - easing off to hit the button at the right time seems to cost me more than just riding!
I've also gone with the orange cap, socks and beard/hair to make identification easier on the TTT - it's a pretty strong look...
Great that...thanks as always Steve!
I actually hit 800w at one point and earned a badge, didn't realise I had it in me 🙂
I'm thinking of changing my hair to really long with full beard, for the lockdown look 😉
Thanks again for organising Steve, I think I enjoyed it! Never quite sure when the sprint is about to kick off, I’m too busy trying not to lose the wheel in front. Not that it would make much difference.
Bah! I have to say I was amazed by the fact I was keeping up with everyone in the earlier meet-ups. My power seemed a bit optimistic compared to what I normally manage.
My trainer is weird, it seems to hold calibration for ages and then go a bit skew whiff all of a sudden. I think I need to check it at least weekly.
I think the recalibration has put me back about where I should probably be.
Bah! Need to train more. Feel a bit demoralised now...
I'm sure it's a calibration issue Stumpy, as you would definitely keep up with me in usual riding...I'm usually dying most rides and holding on.
Best try calibrating again and see if it makes a difference. What trainer have you got?
Tough to say, you can only take the word of the Apps if no other option. Back when I first got my Snap, we tested it with a pair of power pedals and all were pretty damn close.
I also had another snap in the garage recently which seemed the same when riding so I'm pretty happy mine is ok.
Anyone locally you can borrow anything from to test.?
Just for info, I'm having a bit of a rest. I may do the TTT on Thurs, but that's it this week. My legs are just fried every minute of every day currently, I think I've had 3 days off in 6 weeks. So, it's time for a rest period.
So, someone needs to take charge of the next couple
Alright, I've just started an attempt at 25 laps of the volcano circuit. If anyone fancies joining up for moral support.
Thanks again Weeksy - enjoy the rest days and look forward to seeing in the TTT on Thursday!
Well done Weeksy, you deserve a beer and a rest
I'll pick up the baton and setup a row for 18.30 Tuesday night if folks want?
I'm not over familiar with the routes but will try find something flat ish we can pitch for a few laps in an hour.
If enough people fancy the hare and hounds idea me and dangeourbrian could sort it between us?
Road to Ruins with a 10min headstart for c&d?
Thanks guys - a Hare and Hounds could be fun!
Sounds good
Was riding outside today. Sounds like I missed a tough one. Another cheers to Steve for setting these up and herding bees. Never done a H&H but up for whatever it is!
Sounds good I'll BEE there
oop north
Best try calibrating again and see if it makes a difference. What trainer have you got?
I've got a Tacx Flow (the cheap Halfords one).
I calibrated it after the last ride and after this. The result is consistent, so I think it's pretty much there.
weeksy
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Tough to say, you can only take the word of the Apps if no other option.
Yeah, at the end of the day I have to assume the turbo and calibration app are ok.
A couple of mates have turbos, so could try theirs after the lockdown.
I'm not that fit to be honest and the current pace/power is more like as I'd expect than a couple of weeks ago.
Might look at a Swift training plan...
I'd be up for hare and hounds definitely. We could stick Hare or hound into our name and have different jerseys...
Good idea on the jersey. 10 mins sounds like a quite a start!
I'm up for hounding on Tues. Gives a good workout before resting on Weds for Thursday's TTT.
Just checked in on old the Zwift thread & didn’t realise it was being planned in 2 places
Alright, I’ve just started an attempt at 25 laps of the volcano circuit. If anyone fancies joining up for moral support.
It's only an extra hour and a half to tick the century afterwards...
Was great ride this morning - pain really winds up at tempo.
I’ll be on for Tuesday.
Really enjoyed the first 3 laps, went for it and hit my highest wattage to date and that seems to be too much for my tacx vortex and it crapped out, just cruised round for 30 mins to finish the hour, never mind
Right, the time for a racing lap of Road to Ruins is roughly an hour so if we say a 6 minute headstart that's 10%. This is pretty much a stab in the dark but it's something to work off if we ever do a second attempt!
If everyone who wants to enter makes sure they're following me over the next day or so I'll send a load of invites out. Only accept and enter if you want to be in the hare group, ie cat c/d/e (or no idea) and being chased.
I'll set the time for 1830hrs and shall we say the basic red & black Jersey with (STW Hare) in your name?
Then if someone from the hounds doing the chasing, so cat a/b, (or no idea but confident!) sets up an event for 1836hrs and everyone wanting to chase puts (STW Hound) in their name and the usual bumblebee Jersey.
Then it's a straightforward team pursuit to the finish, first team to get someone over the line wins.
That should work shouldn't it, or have I missed something?
Can’t we all be in the same meet up but the hounds set of 6 mins later? Otherwise we won’t all get the group messages or know when you are catching. If it is one group everyone is visible on the map.
That is a very good point - we'll do that instead!
Same deal with names and jerseys Hares/Red, Hounds/Bee but everyone join the same event. I'll send invites tomorrow evening to give people time to follow me.
Usual work rules apply so I won't be available tuesday unfortunately. Shame as its sounds like fun.
Maybe see you all next weekend
Good point
OK.. sounds good...
I suggest Phil, myself, and Ivan so far in hound...
DrP
I should be able to make this - I think I follow you
From what I understand, most are C&D cats which means a big group of hares .. work together and you will be very difficult to catch.
Pretty sure there are not too many A&B cats .. and from what I see on ZP very few of those are pushing A&B cat power for the longer 30-40km distances .. so the hounds group will be a very small group of riders🥵
I'm in, happy to take my turn in hounds
There's a couple of decent little climbs in this where I'm expecting the hounds to make up quite a lot of time so hopefully it should be quite close.
I’m in but I will be a hare! I am a D although think I am pushing the bounds of a C now.
I’m in, I’ll have to be a Hare and I’ll be that Gazelle that gets eaten first while Attenborough narrates.
“The Hunter always picks off the weakest and slowest of the herd...”
I think I can make this. Not sure which category I’m in as this is all relatively new to me but it’s definitely not an A or B so I’ll be a hare. Slightly apprehensive though at the prospect of what, on the face of it, looks like a one hour long team time trial.
Slightly apprehensive though at the prospect of what, on the face of it, looks like a one hour long team time trial.
Think of it this way :
It's definitely not a 2 hour long TT
Thanks for that!😊
I think of it as being the opposite of a time trial - you're not trying to be quickest, you're trying to be first...
We want to go as slow as possible whilst keeping enough of a margin to get one person across the line first!
You’re not convincing me.
@IvanDobski
I've tried to follow you but it says you need to approve it! You're obviously very selective!!
All approved - I'm not that selective!
Ivan, I fancy this one too. I’m a B so will join the Hounds, just hope I can hang in the pack/swarm when the fast ones are at full chase.
I’ve modified name and sent you a follow request - Southside Johnny on Zwift.
If there are a couple longish hills it can help - as long as there are atleast 3-4 decent climbers at top to carry on the pace.
How many in hounds group so far?
So far hounds look like being...
Phil56
DrP
DKNwhy
JR
Dangeourbrain
But that's only based off what's been said in the thread so far - half a dozen would be a strong chase group anyway so if we end up with those guys plus a couple more it should be an interesting race.
I'll create the event later tonight then we'll know a bit more tomorrow.
In H&H is the idea not for anyone to be caught at all, or for at least one of the group to escape?
Also what constitutes C&D? (Though I’m definitely not an A or B)
Finally what is the basic red and black jersey? I’ve got no ones with red in, only orange.
I'm in as a hare please. Assuming it's an evening ride.
What bikes are we doing? Last STW meet-up on road to ruins did MTB.
Looks like 6 in hounds group then?
Will be very difficult!
My legs a very tired today, so taking Monday off .. hopefully they be fresh for Tuesday 🤞
razorrazoo
Member
In H&H is the idea not for anyone to be caught at all, or for at least one of the group to escape?Also what constitutes C&D? (Though I’m definitely not an A or B)
Finally what is the basic red and black jersey? I’ve got no ones with red in, only orange.
Posted 57 minutes ago
So for this experiment we're going to go with the idea being for the hares to get at least one person across the line before the hounds catch them. If they get more than one then great but one's the aim.
Categories are based on ftp/weight in kg
A = 4.0 w/kg and above
B = 3.2-3.9 w/kg
C = 2.5-3.1 w/kg
D = 2.4 w/kg and below
Red jersey is Basic 5.
You'll need to update your zwift name with hare or hound ahead of the event and I'll sort the event in a bit.
I would say road bikes but we could do a cheeky bike swap once we hit the dirt and go for the mtb if we think it's worth the trade off in time...
I'm giving Tuesday a miss this week too, looks like it's set fair weather wise and I fancy getting out in the fresh air again.
Basic 5? I only have basic 1-3 and am level 10.
Hmmmm - on my app it says 5 but googling it says it's Basic 2. Should be red and black.
I’ve only been on zwift 4-5 weeks. This is the basic set of jerseys I got (top 2 rows apart from top right which was via a challenge). The ones on the bottom row are vintage and I also have the camo set, that’s all.
Right, if you can't get the red and black then the hares can ride in the Zwift grey, top centre of your image. Everyone should have access to that.
I've sent all the invites, if you haven't got one and want one let me know.
Got the invite & accepted, ta.
I'm gonna most definitely be a Hare. Looking forward to this one (I think!).
So, we have a jersey - the grey one. Assume the bike can be any we fancy?
Im In 🙂
Looks like about 20 in so far so a decent turn out. Hopefully at least 12 hares and 6 hounds!
I did a bit of course recon yesterday. It is going to be tough to stay away I think with the hills. If the hounds catch before a decent time has elapsed we should regroup as a SWARM and complete the ride together I think.
Not sure what handicap is appropriate for this ride but I can see the hares getting caught on the climb back out of the jungle section at around 40 minutes.
Yeah, regroup then cruise towards a sprint finish seems best.
I've gone with approx 10% of a racing lap just to give us a benchmark really. If the hares can get to the top of the 2nd climb with 45secs plus I reckon we'll stay away.
Bike Choice - Decisions Decisions...
Swapping is fastest if you're quick in the garage...
I think keep the same bike for all people all the way through. Removes another variable and trying to stay as a group and swap bikes isn't going to work.
I'm in as a Hare, cat C (still smarting from consecutive WKG DQs in Cat D races). I'm doing Tour for All race tonight as well so will probably still be useless tomorrow afternoon.
Im still C so I'll go Hare
Only minor concern here guys is Watopia.... it's a busy busy place at the moment.
So you won't be able to tell where everyone is easily.... I'd aguably go for a hilly route if you choose, but on an empty course.
Richmond has climbs, so does London and Innsbruck, so all could easily accomodate your choices in many ways, but with an empty course i think it will be easier to have a group and to have the ability to see where hares/hounds are.
Hi Ivan. I'm up for Tuesday. Can you ping me an invite (P Tunstall on Zwift)? I'm C (close to B according to ZP) so happy to go in either group.
stick with road bikes...i'll mess it up if we try to swap!!
DrP
Not sure if I can make this, but it does sound like fun...
I'm below a D, so I've signed up as a hare. May or may not make the start line.
So Richmond and New York are the guest worlds.
Yorkshire UCI could work as it has ups and downs? The hills aren't too steep and too long?
Edit: Or the short Innsbruck lap
yeah i think that works well to be honest, hilly enough for some climbing ability to kick in, but not too hilly to make it unfair and impossible for the hounds.
You joining in now Weeksy?! 🙂
You joining in now Weeksy?!
The temptation is massive mate... really is... but i ought to rest... I'm finding it hard after a day off yesterday, but we did a 10km walk so not sure that's helped the leg fatigue lol. But it's 10:35 am on the next day and i'm getting the shakes from not riding 😀
Go on! You know you want to! One rest day is enough 🙂