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[Closed] xtr gear cables - what are these end caps for?

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just bought this gear cable set. ive only ever used bog standard cables and inners before, and im a bit confused about the little bits and bobs included.

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now ive got to be right to assume the 2 long cables will come from my shifters. (im using sram gripshift btw)

but the 3 smaller sections have got different caps on one end. with some sort of protective sheath for half an inch or so. whys this? and am i right in guessing theyd go towards the 'mech end' of the set up?

and what are the 2 rubber things for too? cant even guess where they go. are they specific to xtr shifters or something? and i just ignore them if im using sram?

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Posted : 22/12/2009 9:06 am
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they tongues go through the cable guides and teh boot slip over - helps to weather proof exposed sections of cable


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:08 am
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You can see them fitted in this photo

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Posted : 22/12/2009 9:13 am
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They're the bits that make full length outers redundent welcome to crispshifting...


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:19 am
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ah right, thanks. so i was wrong in guessing they went mech end then, looking at that pic.

ive also got 3 bits of cable with 'tongues' and only 2 'boots'. was that an oversight? should there be three?

and is it a silly question to ask why they only go one end? a cable will move backwards and forwards during its use, so why only protect one end from sh*te?

thanks


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:34 am
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They're the bits that make full length outers redundent...[/i]

Well, apart from the fact they move down the cable, therefore not doing what they are supposed to do.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:35 am
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My bike came with them fitted next to the derailleurs, presumably because that is where the cable is closest to the ground/muck.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:41 am
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My boots stay on my tongues (dont get to say that often!). Theres a sort of point / hook on the tongues that allows the boot move a bit but still keep the tongue covered.

I dont know why you got 2 boots - there was 3 in my set. I used them where there was most likelyhood of filth eg on the seatpost and stays.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:46 am
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I thought the point was that the tongue and boot are long enough that the boot overlaps the tongue throughout the mechs full travel.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:49 am
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that sounds like it makes sense poppa, but it doesnt look like its the case ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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Well, apart from the fact they move down the cable, therefore not doing what they are supposed to do.

They can move down the cable, a spot of glue sorts that.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 9:51 am
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Just to throw a possible spanner in the works, does gripshift still reqire 1.1 mm cables instead of the normal 1.2 mm cables? Not sure as I've not come across gripshift for over a decade but seem to remember this once being the case.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:13 am
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Mine don't move. One without the boot is for front mech. If you have under top tubs routing you don't need a boot as muck will just come out anyway


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:18 am
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1.1 and 1.2mm cables?

You mean the 1:1 or 1:2 ratio that Sram and Shimano use? (Making Gripshift incompatible with anything other than a Sram rear mech)


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:28 am
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I think nowadays Shimano use 1.2mm thick cables and SRAM 1.1mm thick cables. I am told it is ok to use 1.1mm cables in outers designed for 1.2mm cables, which makes sense.


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:38 am
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so it's not me going mad. I remember someone having issue with a 1.2mm shimano cable getting draggy inside a gripshift and having to order gripshift inners and a tube of "jonnysnot".

I know I'm not getting it confused with the actuation ratios. ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 22/12/2009 10:52 am