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Acknowledging that you have, or had, any admiration for Lance in any capacity is equivalent to riding without a helmet.
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Yes, it's a perfectly legitimate thing to do, but that won't stop people tearing into you for it.
I'm not a big Armstrong fan, and I don't think he's a very nice guy, but I can admire some of the stuff he's done. Cheating or not, coming back from cancer and winning 7 Tours is somewhat impressive.
David Millar, can shove his outrage up his ass.
That's unfair. He would have to take his head out of there first to make some room.
Errrr, except for liberal usage of TUE’s Wiggins hasn’t been caught “cheating”.
You have to be pretty naive to believe he was clean. One minute he absolutely gets his ass handed to him in the grand tours, then suddenly he can keep pace with Contador, Armstrong, Schlecks etc in the high mountains. The lies over not using any needles, the lies over the Jiffy bag, then conveniently using TUEs just before big GC races despite not displaying any symptoms severe enough to warrant them. He's the same as all the rest.
You have to be pretty naive to believe he was clean.
No, just taking on board available evidence. None of which goes anywhere close to proving Wiggins illegally took PED's.
Of course feel free to post up your new evidence, or just recycle the same old same old.
No, just taking on board available evidence. None of which goes anywhere close to proving Wiggins illegally took PED’s.
Of course feel free to post up your new evidence, or just recycle the same old same old.
You're right. I'm sorry I don't believe in miracles.
So why have they not awarded Lances wins to other riders in favour of leaving the history books empty ........?
Lets be honest it would be very nieve to think any tour within the last 40 years has been won clean , plus id imagine it would be very hard to find such dominant champion in any sport that havnt steped on a few toes and ended a career or two on the way ie Rossi , Schumacher .......
Lance singlehandedly made the TdF a must watch event , turned cycling into the new golf and must of made a lot of companies a huge amount of money . Maybe not such a nice guy at times but a villain i think not
Bradley Wiggins on The One Show now.
One doper praising another?
Personally I don't have time for either. Lance was a sociopath. It's not the doping that I detested so much as Lance being a bully and getting off on conning everyone.
Maybe not such a nice guy at times but a villain i think not
Lance would destroy and trash people who got on the wrong side of him. There is nothing redeemable about him in my eyes. It's an unprecedented duplicity.
Armstrong was the best cheat out of a bunch of cheats. Acknowledge him for that. Cycling is full of a...h...s.
What pains me is that I used to love cycling and Armstrong forever ruined it for me as a spectator sport.
It was ruined way before Armstrong.
(4 minute rider turned into Grand tour winner),
Rebecca Romero?
Primoz Roglic?
Geraint Thomas?
Being good at one sport doesn't stop you being good at another
I don't think anyone is suggesting writing Armstrong out of history. I think his part in the history of cycling should never be forgotten, and people should be regularly reminded of the extent of the corruption he was involved in.
He was clearly exceptionally gifted both physically and mentally, but he also cheated, and it wasn't a moment of temptation; it was a sustained and ruthlessly organised exercise. If you don't play the game within the boundaries of the rules, you invalidate your achievements.
I don't think LA is looking for forgiveness from anyone, so I don't think we should be too worried about "respecting" his legacy. It sounds like Wiggins' admiration for the strengths that made Armstrong such a successful competitor outweigh his concerns about the means that were used. That's quite revealing.