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Just got back from a ride where we bumped into a specimen of the new style policing. We were riding along the cycletrack on the Tarelton by-pass passing lots of cars that were not moving, we were near our turn off when we came on a group of police cars and a police motor bike with lots of officers sitting on bonnets chatting. A motor bike cop stepped into our path making me slam on. Get back you cant go through he said I said were only going to that turn off is it okay to carry on. I *****ng told you to get back came the reply. There followed several rounds of verbals that ended up with me being threatened with arrest.
I never raised my voice I never swore at the policeman despite being told several times to Fu*k off. I was never given an explanation why I couldnt go 20 yards to my turning and what made it worst was that this bad language was in front of my 15 year old niece. She has probably heard worse but I am upset that she heard it. Almost equally aggravating was the other officers who just sat on there bonnets laughing at us.
I am going to report this but as there were no cameras present I imagine I am wasting my time and money. Have the police always been this bad or is it a new thing.
Before people start calling me a lefty whinger I am a 49 year old ex army officer, middle age, middle class, middle ground politcally and the most radical thing I have ever done is contribute to GreenPeace. My contact with police has been nearly zero apart from a couple of speeding tickets and reporting a couple of thefts.
Got his name and number I hope?
MAKE SURE you report it, and be quite explicit at how much it upset you, and that it was totally unprofessional of him, especially in front of your 15 year old niece.
Sadly most people I know (and myself) have a very real problem with the Police. Not cos we're all drug dealing, gun toting, law breaking criminals, but because we're law abiding citizens that know we're policed by a bunch of overpaid and underskilled thugs that know they've got the easy life. One guy I knew from uni joined the Thames Valley force. He was well known as the biggest drug dealer in the uni whilst there! He was also a total bully and a thug and used to beat people up regularly just for the fun of it. And he is now policing us!
The fact that several of them were sitting around doing nothing, blocking your way, wasting taxpayers money is also of some concern! I mean how many other jobs do you know where big groups of people get paid lots of money to sit around doing nothing, at the taxpayers expense?
Sorry, rant over, but MAKE SURE you report this. You may be lucky, you may not, but unless you report it nothing can be done!
140,000 police officers.
There's going to be some to$$ers.
I came across a blockade in the middle of green park the other day (Mexican pres in town) and got directed to the easiest way out of the park on my bike by a very friendly copper who shared a few jokes about Jacqui Smith's porn habits.
I would report it definitely, I dont have an issue with the police but I have had some rather frank discussions with them in the past when some arrogant young policeman tries bully tactics and talks like he has some additional power over you. Some of them dont realise they are actually civilians.
Don't bother reporting... Waist of time... Where will you have to go for that?
POLICE station so they will cover themselves.
I agree report him. There may be a good reeason that the road closure was on ie a fatal/serious RTC however there is no excuse of reason for being as you describe events a poor excuse for a uniform wearer.
The job aint what it used to be and nor are some of the employees it is a shame that your experiences with these officers will possibly lead you and others to think that all poice officers are unprofessional louts. I hope that any other police contact that you have makes ammends for their poor service.
He was wearing leathers and a green Hi vis jacket I couldnt see any numbers. Just spoken to my niece and she says she took a few pics on her phone whilst no one was looking.
I am going to wait till I see them before I do anything.
I dont want to make a complaint but I feel I have to even though it is probably going to mean I get stopped for driving on the cracks in the road every week for the next year.
When did the police stop being public servants and turn into our masters.
report it but remember, its always a small minority that spoil it for the better majority.
now that people are selling their stories through the press for every minor thing i can only see the police's attitude from getting worse.
Just spoken to my niece and she says she took a few pics on her phone whilst no one was looking.
Might not want to mention that, since Our Glorious Leaders recently made it illegal to photograph the police!
really, that true or just internet waffle?
Suggsey I agree with you it could have been something serious but all I wanted to do was ride 20 yards to a bridleway entrance and ride a couple of miles back to my sisters house in the opposite direction.
If the policeman had have said I am sorry you cant go any further X has happened I would have shrugged my shoulders and turned round but being repetedly told to **** off and then being threatened with arrest is not on.
When I was an army officer if one of my lads had spoken like that to anyone under any circumstance I would have been down on him like a ton of bricks. That includes during service in Bosnia and Northern Ireland where circumstances were considerably more difficult than a sunny day in England
Clearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a fu**ing person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming in his face while he tells you to back off.
Zulu-Eleven - MemberClearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a fu**ing person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming in his face while he tells you to back off.
If I had done those things then he would have been in his rights to do what he did. However I did not even raise my voice if my niece had not of been there then I might have raised my voice and I imagine I would now be sitting in a cell.
Why did he get such an obviuos kick out of telling me to fu*k off in front of a 15 year old girl. Was he trying to show off in front of a very pretty girl or was he trying to show off to his fellow policemen.
Zulu-Eleven - Member
Clearly the correct course of action is not to make a complaint, but to start screaming and shouting hysterically "Who do you think you are, pushing a really quite tiny person, you scum", then trying to grab him and screaming into his chest (as the height difference is considerable) while he backhands you in the face then clubs you round the back of the legs.
Good point well made z-11 🙄
Pants, thats not a criticism of you - plod was clearly being a power mad tosser, but clearly you handled the situation in a mature and reasonable manner rather than kicking off and making it worse then playing the poor little victim!
Labrat, let it go. You lost that one, yet you're trying to continue it here.
Personally, I wooduv tooken the copper's number, and reported him for an offence under [url= http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?activeTextDocId=2236961 ]Section 5 of the Public Order Act[/url]; Using threatening and/or abusive language and/or behaviour, in a public place, likely to cause offence.
Go to the police, inform your local MP, anyone who has a responsibility to ensure your civil rights are upheld, and that Law and Order are also upheld.
Kick up a fuss. Dirty Babylonians want respect? Then they should start behaving with some themselves.
Feelthy Coppeurs...
Copper sounds like a reet ****wit
Sweeping statements, the classic STW response to conclude a matter... 🙄
Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.
'Sadly most people I know (and myself) have a very real problem with the Police. Not cos we're all drug dealing, gun toting, law breaking criminals, but because we're law abiding citizens that know we're policed by a bunch of overpaid and underskilled thugs that know they've got the easy life. One guy I knew from uni joined the Thames Valley force. He was well known as the biggest drug dealer in the uni whilst there! He was also a total bully and a thug and used to beat people up regularly just for the fun of it. And he is now policing us!'
Right, so because of some bloke you know at uni who was a tw*t is now a copper, it makes them all like him does it? 😕
Take advantage of the media circus ! Make the official complaint but also put the incident in the media , even if its only the local paper.
'Bad cops' really are vile aren't they !
yeah the police can be really rude!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8006544.stm
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8006544.stm ]G20 summit police violence[/url]
Or even this...
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8004861.stm ]man dies after police 'push' at G20 summit[/url]
Mboy you got an e-mail I can message you about your comment.
Don't! She'll get yer IT addy, pass it on to her collegues in the IT dept, who will use that to find out where you live and before you know it, you'll be having yer front door kicked in at 3am, dragged down to the station in yer underpants, where you'll [s]be given a right good kicking[/s] fall down the stairs, and you'll end up getting fitted up for some blag you had no idea about...*
*This might not actually happen.
I agree with stoner's 140000 police officers, there are going to be some tossers, but how come the officer in question felt comfortable doing this in front of lots of his colleagues? Why did they all tacitly condone his behaviour?
Plenty of ****s in the police. I've told this one many times but hey.
I got called to my works alarm. When I arrived a police car pulled up behind me. Two of the worlds bigest morons jumped out and told me to get on the floor and that they were armed police. I said something along the line of youre joking, but they made it very clear they were'nt. So I laid down at which point they pissed themselves laughing.
Could'nt really be arsed to report it, I guess one day they'll try that on a tooled up smack head and it won't end in laughter.
Rudeboy nope that's certainly not going to happen! i wish to get rid of the bad uns so that not everyone has the impression of coppers that most of you have on here, i'll keep fighting to change impressions.
As far as I can tell, the Police have only themselves to blame for the loss of respect they have suffered over recent years. Yes, it may be a minority of members of the force who act like power-mad kers, but as noted above, their behaviour seems to effectively be condoned by their colleagues unless there is a complaint made or a camera nearby. So the working assumption of the public has to be that every Police officer is a power-mad ker until an individual they deal with demonstrates otherwise. Basic self preservation really.
The trouble is, it's a vicious circle: Police lose respect of public, so public don't respond as cooperatively to what might be reasonable requests of the Police so Police need to be more assertive/aggressive to get the same job done so public think they are power mad and the Police lose another small measure of respect, and on it goes...
What adam said. When a copper act like a nobhead ****er I quite not see the other telling him he/she's acting like a thug. Plus I think complaining to the police about the police is only gonna get you more trouble, a bit like rudeboy says.
the police have always been rude !
should not have sworn in front of a 15 year old. There is no excuse for that
go to the station and speak to an inspector and report it, the inspector will have to speak to the officer about it, so he will know that you have been in, but i can guarantee you that you wont be targeted in any way.
people make complaints all the time, ive been subject of several, some unfounded, some when ive been at fault, all very minor i would like to add.
on one occasion i spoke to the person involved and apologised.
so dont think it will be brushed under the carpet, it wont.
Not saying he will get sacked or moved to another post, it will be classed as a minor complaint and if proved, he will most likeley be advised and recorded on his personal file.
But,he should not have sworn at you, and certainly not in front of a 15 year old, im sure the inspector you speak with will agree, just stay calm and rational when reporting it, and for christ sake dont start off with "i pay your wages"
He told you to get back and you can't get through. You chose to disregard his instruction and come crying on here about the naughty police
Is it any wonder that the police go about ****ting people when no one listens to them.
You deserve all you got imo
juan,
ignore rudeboy , he cant be rational or objective!
Fuzzy = troll ?
easygirl from your comment on the G20 thread I think you cant either...
Fuzzy = troll ?
How is what I said trolling? The op was given an instruction by the police, he failed to adhere to it, then comes on here crying like a baby
I'd be interested to see why the road was closed off, I'm guessing a fatal accident in which case the op would look a bigger **** than he already is
>The op was given an instruction by the police, he failed to adhere to it,
He was attempting to discuss that he only wanted to go 20 yrds further on and then turn off.
yes but surely the road was blocked there for a reason and not 20 yds further on....
And....He obviously couldn't otherwise the police would have let him.
As much as you want to hate the Police I can't see them all sitting at the side of the road holding up traffic for no reason
Don't think the wanting to go through bits the problem, think he's accepted he couldn't go through. It's just the way in which the officer handled the situation, which I think was a little unprofessional
maybe a firm and polite "I am sorry sir I cannot let you pass" would have been enough?
I'd be interested to see why the road was closed off, I'm guessing a fatal accident in which case the op would look a bigger **** than he already is
which planet are you living on.
Now i have a lot of respect for the police round my area cos they put up with so much shit from a massive majority of people but for you to think that swearing in front of a 15 year old girl is ok and generally being abusive is the guys fault then you obviously have never left your house, lived in the real world or generally just dont have a clue.
He told you to get back and you can't get through. You chose to disregard his instruction and come crying on here about the naughty policeIs it any wonder that the police go about ****ting people when no one listens to them
this statement just sums you up. The police are highly trained to keep their cool. NO EXCUSE.
Fuzzy = troll ?
No, don't be unkind. I think he's a bit 'special', the poor love...
i've been on the reciving end of a 'slap' from the police, walking down the street with a group of friends, hand reaches out - grabs me by the throat, the other hand slaps me hard around the head, follwed by 'f*** off or i'll nick you. this is common place - there are a lot of people who have had a LOT worse (but they can usually be dismissed/ignored as they are black/asian/poor).
Fuzzy - damn right you should 'cry about the naughty poice'
actually reading my own post 'naughty police' sounds a bit odd