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 DezB
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Need (helpful) suggestions...

i think I "need" a disc brake crosser/commuter/roadbike/gnarmaccer

Want something light, fast and comfortable... my ideas at the moment are a Tripster or a Super-X, or for silly money a Santa Cruz Stigmata (but probably not, cos they are silly money and prob no better than a Super-X really)

Comments? suggestions? mockery?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:32 pm
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Forum default suggestions of a Tripster ATR/Arkose should do you right.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:41 pm
 DezB
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The Tripster is a gorgeous thing. I think I need to have a close look at that thread about em.
But do I want carbon?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:44 pm
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You need a fatbike! 🙂


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:55 pm
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Cannondale list the SuperX at 1.5kg, f&f, the Tripster frame probably weighs more.

That's what I'd have, I am a Cannondale fanboi tho,I've owned 3 road bikes and am considering a CAADX.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 7:56 pm
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The SuperX is a flipping cool looking bike. Probably not as "pretty" as a tripster (though if you look in the gravel bike thread it looks like it is very easy to build an ugly one) but I suspect better if you want to get a wiggle on.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:04 pm
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Thanks for throwing that in Al. I got a CAAD-x on the Cyclescheme a few years ago, and love it. Apart from the brakes - it was the year before they all went disc. Perfect fit and a nice ride, but nasty cheap wheels. So that's why the Super-x is up there.
Folk are gushing about the Tripster on that thread...


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:04 pm
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If it were me I'd go for a Tripster but I've always wanted a Ti bike.

How about a Shand Stoater?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:19 pm
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I imagine many gushing about it have spent ££££ on one...or like the price tag and aspirational aspect of ti.

I've fallen out of love with ti I have to say, and even steel - alu and carbon for me (mostly, still like my Shand, and 80s 531 road singlespeed).


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:22 pm
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Salsa Warbird? Or perhaps a Cutthroat?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:23 pm
 DezB
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ooh! damn pricey though!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:34 pm
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That Niner RLT in the classifieds is bloody lovely. My size too (don't know about you) but the Mrs would kill me.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 8:39 pm
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Niner BSB or RLT if you're needing to run guards and racks. I'm a few thousand miles into mine:

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Posted : 22/07/2015 8:46 pm
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Love the look of the bsb, especially the new lime green colouring


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 9:38 pm
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2016 Genesis Croix der fer Ti?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 9:39 pm
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Got a kinesis pro6 f&f with Spesh pave post and a stem in 57 for sale soon. Great all rounder.


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 10:13 pm
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Cheers guys, this will be a new purchase. Niner looks rather tasty.

[edit]£1300 for that black one, wow... too big though!


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 10:39 pm
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Carbon Diverge?


 
Posted : 22/07/2015 11:06 pm
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(Cheeky bump)

Some fab ideas here, thanks all.
Edging towards the Tripster (normal BB!) but I do want hydro discs...


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:00 am
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Tripster or a Super-X,

Curious pair. Want a bit of a do it all bike then Tripster. Want to go CX racing then Super X.

crosser/commuter/roadbike/gnarmaccer

Sounds like you want the Tripster.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:09 am
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I've been pondering the same, and stumbled across this, depends if you want guard mounts or not, but it's £750 less than the equivalent spec TCX and looks bad-ass.

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http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Felt-F3X-2015-Cyclocross-Bike_74232.htm


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:18 am
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so good I posted twice


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:18 am
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[i]Want to go CX racing then Super X[/i]

Not really. I have a CX bike now and they're good for EVERYTHING, not just CX racing 🙂


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:31 am
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Not really. I have a CX bike now and they're good for EVERYTHING, not just CX racing

Thing is CX is now a very board brush and covers a whole gamut of bikes. Much like "road bikes" gets applied to everything from tourers to race bikes.

CX bikes are ok at lots of things I guess, but a CX race bike will be very good at CX racing and compromised in some way for most other applications. This may or may not bother you 🙂


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:40 am
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In typical STW way "mine is the way to go" look at the GT grade range massive value for money. You can even play on mine before buying 😉
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?s=gt+grade
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Posted : 23/07/2015 10:47 am
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...but a CX race bike will be very good at CX racing

If this means a lack of braze ons or slightly different geometry, I fail to see how that's a benefit in cx racing.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:48 am
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[i]This may or may not bother you [/i]
Not in the slightest. It's a bicycle 🙂

Thanks Rich! I think I'm not bothering about value 😀


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 10:49 am
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the Shimano Hydraulic brakes are quite excellent, worth trying to get something with them on, or as an upgrade


 
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If this means a lack of braze ons or slightly different geometry, I fail to see how that's a benefit in cx racing.

Good point Al. I'm surprised manufacturers bother tweaking geometry and producing different bikes for different applications.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 11:19 am
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After riding my Arkose with shimano hydraulics on Tuesday I'm blown away by it, and them. I'd not consider anything else brakes wise. Ian's Tripster is lovely and I'd have one in a shot if I could afford it.

Do you want classic looks or shouty carbon? Norco Search is my favourite shouty one.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 11:33 am
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[i]Do you want classic looks or shouty carbon?[/i]

Yes 🙂


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 11:56 am
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Yeah MrBlobby, a cx race bike is so much faster for having fewer braze ons. A degree on the head angle will easily get you a few places.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 11:56 am
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[i]the Shimano Hydraulic brakes are quite excellent, worth trying to get something with them on, or as an upgrade[/i]

Interesting - most have Sram Rival. Anyone have any experience of these?


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:00 pm
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I had to have a look at the ti Cross de Fer that Peter mentioned above.
I then found the Datum, and I really want one of those now. Start saving...


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:03 pm
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The Datum huh?

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😛


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:07 pm
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Oh sod it, I'll play.

I'd be checking out the new Scott...

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I really like the Crux too, much fun to ride...

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... but the builds are a bit rubbish. I'd wait for the 2016 ones with proper hydro discs.

Storck TIX if you want something a bit different...

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Posted : 23/07/2015 12:12 pm
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Me Play Too..

How much have you got to spend?

If it really is a "do it all" type (since you have a CX'er) then I'd say go the Tripster route too or something from Shand. If it's more a CX/Gravel hard hack bike then the alloy TCX would fit the bill and come in at £1800. They come with guard clips and such so can be utilised for all sorts duties too and hey, look pretty.

Can't really see the point in spending loads on a proper CX'er if thats not really your thing, clearly you can (like me) and use it for other duties like long distance CX sportives and NCN blasts, mine does all that and long distance over night routes I put the Apidura seat bag and bar bag on for that, change tyres too.

But..

But....

What exactly do you want it for??


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:22 pm
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I'd have a Stigmata or a Tripster if funds allowed

Seeing as they didn't, and it would be used for commuting, local errands and use with the kids, the forum default Arkose was my next option. Mine's an Arkose 2


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:40 pm
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[i]How much have you got to spend?[/i]

As much as I can justify to myself.. 😆
(Which discounts the one I really want - top of the range Stigmata!)

[i]What exactly do you want it for??[/i]
Get rid of the current CX bike and the road bike and use it in place of them. I suppose it will mostly be used for 30+ mile-a-day commute, but swap the wheels and go gnarmac/adventuring.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:51 pm
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tripster & set of spare set of wheels it is then. Shimano 105 hydraulic groupset build.

Just succumb already, stop playing hard to get.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 12:56 pm
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Sorry to interrupt, if one was to have the same requirement as the OP, but had feet in the 'steel-is-real' camp - where would the collective hive point to? CdF? Others?
RM.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:26 pm
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tripster & set of spare set of wheels it is then. Shimano 105 hydraulic groupset build.

Just succumb already, stop playing hard to get.

Then Sir your solution hits you smack in the face this (and many others) point out ^^

Prologue in Harrogate has a Tripster built up in a 54 for £2300.. off you go and buy it, then report back 😀


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 1:55 pm
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Recently got a Arkose 4 as a middling N+1. Immediately swapped the post, saddle, stem, bars, wheels and 50 ring.

Tripsters look great but what about an Enigma Etape or Burls equivalent if you don't want to be a Kinesis fanboi?

Did look at the stainless Croix Der Fer which looked very nice and elegant but over budget for what it'll be used for.


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 2:22 pm
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[i]Prologue in Harrogate has a Tripster built up in a 54 for £2300.. off you go and buy it, then report back[/i]

Ok. Where's Harrogate? 5 and a half hours away! 🙁


 
Posted : 23/07/2015 2:35 pm
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[i] if one was to have the same requirement as the OP, but had feet in the 'steel-is-real' camp[/i]

Pfft. That's easy!
http://www.ninerbikes.com/rlt9steel


 
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