The big rocky gap jump (that we are seeing in all the photos) now has a B line to riders left, lower down. Its the one across the ditch in the woods that I think was the one that prompted the 'mandatory' comments though.
Good... its the world bloody championships! Some good phots on the XCO_MTB instagram. Nino posted an absolute cracker too. I can't wait to watch, gutted I couldnt get to both the DH and the Xc but hopefully the tV coverage does more justice to the XC.
At least it looks like there is now a B-line – I think originally there were suggestions the gap was mandatory
That came from Scott Laughland's preview video, somehow he managed to not see the bloody obvious b-line right next to the gap!
Where’s the info about the closed park and rides please, for the XCO on Saturday
Latest update is that al Park and Rides will be open as normal.
Where’s the info about the closed park and rides please, for the XCO on Saturday
I'd read it on the event website, but yes, just checked back now, and they've updated their advice too, to say that all three sites are open - phew!
https://www.cyclingworldchamps.com/visit/venues/glentress-forest/
That BMW did look a little cosy. Should have had the roof down 🤣
The brakes were dodgy apparently....
We went to see the Junior Women's road race on Saturday morning - some tough lassies in there

Thanks for park and ride updates 👍
This. Very much this – start a thread, please!
How much effort does it take to skip reading a post which you're not interested in? No one is forcing you to read the posts about xc/road let alone reply to them so just ignore them and move on without the thread policing. 🙄
Anyway that discussion is pretty much done. Bruce is wrong, but he fails to acknowledge the fact so keeps posting stuff about DH which has bugger all to do with XC 🤷♂️
Bruce is wrong
It's always a distinct possibility. For instance, I've always thought I was a distinctly average mountain biker (at best) and below average when it comes to jumps and drops. However, given your reaction to my comment that most mountain bikers could manage all the a-line features on the course I appear to be some kind of riding god!
let alone reply to them so just ignore them and move on without the thread policing.
Off the charts levels of irony, but sure. It was merely a polite request to save the thread, so I'll happily move on.
Back to the thread (in it's original intention); the track last night was epic!
For instance, I’ve always thought I was a distinctly average mountain biker (at best) and below average when it comes to jumps and drops.
IME most mountain bikers can't do jumps and drops and keep their wheels firmly on the ground. They're more interested in riding in nice places and exploring than cranking up the radness.
Fear not highten discussion has naturally moved to https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mtb-xco-world-championship-course-preview-and-how-to-watch/ so you can go back to talking about parking arrangements and tv schedules 😉
Perfect! Car parks and what to watch are the core issues for me - I'm not really interested on actually riding my bike offroad. It's STW after all! 😉
Rare shot of MvdP with his BOAs intact there.
Hopefully MvdP has got the portaloo locations sorted: https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/cyclist-stops-mid-race-poo-27476052
Aye it looks dead easy doesn't it? Dumbed down for the part timers from the road peloton I suppose.
Agree track has been excellent, the road Mixed Relay TTT was, erm, interesting and I'm just settling down for the Mountain Bike Mixed Relay.
Aye it looks dead easy doesn’t it? Dumbed down for the part timers from the road peloton I suppose.
pfft, it’s so easy the MVdP isn’t even using a dropper!
Aye it looks dead easy doesn’t it? Dumbed down for the part timers from the road peloton I suppose.
Just for me to get an idea of the 'average' STWer, are you saying that there is no way you could ride the features on this course, regardless of practice time and/or bike choice?
Hopefully MvdP has got the portaloo locations sorted:> https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/cyclist-stops-mid-race-poo-27476052
Logs floating in the Clyde are nothing new...
What's happening in MTB? Bit gutted I can't see any of it.
Lunch break over at the Para-cycling, it was Trikes and Handcycles TT this morning, more Handcycles this afternoon.
Just for me to get an idea of the ‘average’ STWer, are you saying that there is no way you could ride the features on this course, regardless of practice time and/or bike choice?
Pre-Olympics, every sport has to have a Test Event - basically make sure the infrastructure, event control etc was all up to standard. I was working on the MTB Test Event at Hadleigh Park, a venue that had come in for a lot of criticism (too flat, too dull, why don't they have it at [insert trail centre], it's not proper MTBing...)
There were various manmade obstacles there including a gap jump, a big rocky drop off etc. All controlled by Olympic regulations re amount of climbing per lap, number and severity of technical features etc.
There were many of the riders themselves who couldn't do some of the technical features and were taking the chicken runs. The gulf in technical ability between the sharp end and the backmarkers was quite noticeable.
They also let various MTB journals, "test riders" etc use it. They were, without exception, worse than even the worst Olympic XCer.
And then before it opened to the public post-Olympics, they removed, or heavily sanitised, everything because it would have been far too dangerous to the public.
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What’s happening in MTB? Bit gutted I can’t see any of it.
Just practice. Elite short track is on Thursday evening with the XCO at the weekend
Ignore, forgot about the team relay and didn't know the eeb race was a thing!
Today it's the e-MTB and XC Team Relay.
They also let various MTB journals, “test riders” etc use it. They were, without exception, worse than even the worst Olympic XCer.
I remember an article in Dirt covering it. If I remember correctly, the rider they brought along to ride it and take the pictures of was Brendan Fairclough.
Are you absolutely sure there were no exceptions?
are you saying that there is no way you could ride the features on this course, regardless of practice time and/or bike choice?
Forget STW'ers, I reckon there's going to be quite a number of the peloton in the race that can't/won't do a number of those features. For the record, I'm going to say that I reckon I could ride them, including the gap. Whether I could do it cross-eyed with oxygen depletion is entirely another matter, and I reckon I would need a rest on anything other than the very first lap of the climbing, if I was doing the same number of laps
just settling down for the Mountain Bike Mixed Relay.
Today it’s the e-MTB and XC Team Relay.
Is team relay coverage available online? e-MTB is on BBC later
EDIT - Team relay is on GCN
Edit 2 - it's on BBC as well but maybe only website? not sure about iPlayer app
Have we done the coos yet?

And then before it opened to the public post-Olympics, they removed, or heavily sanitised, everything because it would have been far too dangerous to the public.
I was 'lucky' enough to ride it after the Olympics but before the sanitisation into a trail centre; not sure how but via the club we were allowed on for a session supervised by a BC coach. I just paid a fee and turned up on my Giant Anthem.
We were walked and talked through all the obstacles, given chance to try them out, different lines, etc., including a few times where the coach wouldn't allow some of us to try A lines at all.
I say 'lucky' - even considering myself a reasonable standard rider, I was picking bits of chammy out of my nipsy for weeks after, I was clenching so hard on some of the features.
Forget STW’ers, I reckon there’s going to be quite a number of the peloton in the race that can’t/won’t do a number of those features.
Only the roadies and they just need to train more.
Have we done the coos yet?
The roar in George Square when they came on screen was fantastic
Only the roadies and they just need to train more.
The extreme technicality of modern XC racing has driven all the 'roadies on dirt' out of it, haven't you heard?
Still waiting for someone to come out and say the features on this course are simply beyond their technical ability.
Still waiting for someone to come out and say the features on this course are simply beyond their technical ability.
Yep. I could not ride that.
I tried riding the course for the Glasgow Commonwealth games. Er, no at some parts. I could get round, just not on the fast/direct/big lines.
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Yep. I could not ride that.
Which features could you not ride?
Who is lapping Stirling currently? Helicopter and camera doing a few loops of Dumyat, WallyMolly and Castle area it seems
Still waiting for someone to come out and say the features on this course are simply beyond their technical ability.
Me, any gaps are a no and that big drop I wouldn't been keen on either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66439738.amp
There's a bit of concern about the Women's race on Sunday being subject to something similar, possibly worse.
In theory at least, Police Scotland are aware of the plans of protest groups - it's all rather polite where the protesters sort of phone in their plans and the police are on scene reasonably quickly (partly to protect the protesters from reprisals, partly to get them to move on in a timely manner). The protest group from last weekend have publicly said they won't do anything else to disrupt the Championships.
But there's definite concerns for the final day...
Me, any gaps are a no and that big drop I wouldn’t been keen on either.
OK, so it's not a limit in your technical skills?
If they put something in the gaps you could probably clear them?
https://youtube.com/live/eF0I4hnqzM8?feature=share7
Older age groups today, semis and finals coming up.
Could the roadies rock up and win this too?
Could the roadies rock up and win this too?'
Ah, so the features are beyond your abilities too?
All of them or just some of them?
Edit: Shanaze Reid rocked up to the Track and won there so roadies might struggle.
Her BMX victories at junior level include three World, eight European and five British BMX championships. Reade is also a champion track racer, riding on Velodromes. In July 2007 she became the Women's Senior UCI BMX World Champion and at the 2007 UCI Track World Championships,[14] she won the gold in the women's team sprint with Victoria Pendleton. It was only her second track race ever.[15] Not only was she the first ever to win a track championship in her rookie year, she completed the feat after only six weeks of training.[16] She had originally taken up the sport to keep her fit for BMX competition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanaze_Reade
Roberts of Edinburgh, Taylor of Kilbirnie in Ayrshire and Moulin and Kerr, both from Glasgow, pleaded not guilty to the single charge against them.

Edit: Shanaze Reid rocked up to the Track and won there so roadies might struggle.
Surprisingly, BMX translates well to track sprinting. Same sort of explosive power, short hard efforts, super close quarters racing.
Chris Hoy started out BMX racing as well.
Coos?

Gutted I didn't spot these in the UCI Merch Stand at Fort William.
This e-mtb business is a joke. The advocate for it on the BBC was asked why it wasn't just an easier version of the unmotorised mtb and all he could offer was "in some bits there is an option for riders to take a steep uphill bit that needs a motor".
Brucewee- Have you actually seen the features in the flesh, or are you basing your opinion on TV images?
Well, I'm looking forwards to going to Glentress with the kids tomorrow for the Junior XCO races and the XC short track . Would have liked to go Saturday but couldn't get out of work. The largest drop on the XCO (Salmon's leap???) looked pretty rowdy when we had a look a month or so back, especially the potential of coming into it with riders either side. Think we'll stake that out on one of the Junior races if we can.
Has anyone been round the event village at Glentress this week? Just wondering what it's like in terms of getting a bite to eat between races, or whether to ride out to Peebles/Innerleithen with kids in tow.
